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Looking for 500 series board with dual GPU support

Zwolin

Hi,

 

I want to build new PC based on Ryzen 5000 CPU, but I'm having trouble deciding what MOBO to buy.

The key feature I'm interested in is having 2 x16 PCIe slots connected to CPU in 8+8 configuration. I want to be able to install a second GPU and have it run background tasks while I game (so I don't care about combining their power via SLI or CF).

 

I also don't care (you can convince me otherwise) about extra x570 fast storage options, so B550 is fine.

It seems that the only B550 MOBO that supports that feature is a STRIX E Gaming, while x570 boards are usually (excluding ASUS PRO) 75$ more expensive (in Poland), and besides aforementioned ASUS PRO following options are within 100PLN (25$) of each other Taichi, AORUS ULTRA, MSI UNIFY, AORUS PRO, STRIX F GAMING with E GAMING for +20$ for essentially WIFI - which is nice but not needed for me.

 

Any recommendations?

Cheers,

MZ

 

PS. Friendly BIOS is a big +, since I want to try some overclocking.

 

CLARIFICATION: 

second GPU will have nothing to do with gaming, I have specific tasks that can be done on GPU (ML)

edit: IF my lovely wife decides she wants a gaming machine I might tinker with this build to set up VMs and run 2 separate systems on the same CPU with dedicated GPUs, but this is secondary, ney, tertiary consideration.

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6 minutes ago, Zwolin said:

I want to be able to install a second GPU and have it run background tasks while I game (so I don't care about combining their power via SLI or CF).

What do you mean by background tasks?

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What background tasks are you planning on running on the second GPU? Most things aren't going to work how you're thinking, and don't have an impact on framerate anyway.

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Just now, Alex Atkin UK said:

What do you mean by background tasks?

TensorFlow <- CUDA accelerated Machine Learning

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no one makes x8/x8 connection possible without trying to add SLI support, in other words you're looking at SLI supporting boards even if SLI isnt your intention

 

For overclocking, MSI is the best f you want to try different memory configurations rather than the common 2x8gb and 2x16gb (since their boards tends to be better optimized in those cases). BIOS design wise, Asus and MSI are the best because Gigabyte and Asrock tends to not put options where you expected. For example, FCLK option in Gigabyte BIOS is neither in CPU overclocking or memory overclocking sections, instead under AMD CBS -> XFR Enhancement.

 

 

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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On 11/4/2020 at 8:35 PM, Jurrunio said:

no one makes x8/x8 connection possible without trying to add SLI support, in other words you're looking at SLI supporting boards even if SLI isnt your intention

 

For overclocking, MSI is the best f you want to try different memory configurations rather than the common 2x8gb and 2x16gb (since their boards tends to be better optimized in those cases). BIOS design wise, Asus and MSI are the best because Gigabyte and Asrock tends to not put options where you expected. For example, FCLK option in Gigabyte BIOS is neither in CPU overclocking or memory overclocking sections, instead under AMD CBS -> XFR Enhancement.

 

 

 

What about ASRock B550 Taichi, B550 AORUS MASTER and B550 VISION D?

Non of these list SLI support but have x8/x8 combination

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34 minutes ago, Zwolin said:

 

What about ASRock B550 Taichi, B550 AORUS MASTER and B550 VISION D?

Non of these list SLI support but have x8/x8 combination

Oddballs

 

I dont understand why either, if you're going to populate the board with the necessary PCIe lane switches for x8/x8 you might as well pay Nvidia a bit for SLI cert.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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37 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Oddballs

 

I dont understand why either, if you're going to populate the board with the necessary PCIe lane switches for x8/x8 you might as well pay Nvidia a bit for SLI cert.

Maybe they don't want to interfere with the segmentation? If suddenly B550 with SLI start showing up it might lower the volume of X570... 

Besides, SLI is dead for gamers, and if you are paying for a workstation that actually needs it than these boards aren't for you (at least that's my feeling)

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56 minutes ago, Zwolin said:

Maybe they don't want to interfere with the segmentation? If suddenly B550 with SLI start showing up it might lower the volume of X570... 

Besides, SLI is dead for gamers, and if you are paying for a workstation that actually needs it than these boards aren't for you (at least that's my feeling)

Back then the Taichi and Master are $300 boards, so they arent going to outcompete with X570 to those who do care about SLI. Even today they arent cheaper than SLI capable x570 boards.

 

Vision D is more of a half workstation board, so its overclocking capability is... worse. Like an Aorus Pro rather than the Master.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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