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Which cooler to choose?

I am buying a R5 3600 for my new rig, and was looking for Air Coolers.

Is a beQuiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 too overkill? Should i do a normal Dark 4 or a Slim? Or should I chuck the Dark series altogether and go for something like a Pure Rock 2 Black? 

Also, should i instead go for Aios? I will be overclocking the Cpu so...in that case i will put up another post in Liquid Cooling as i have options there too.

Thanks in advance!!

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2 minutes ago, CouRageRC said:

I am buying a R5 3600 for my new rig, and was looking for Air Coolers.

Is a beQuiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 too overkill? Should i do a normal Dark 4 or a Slim? Or should I chuck the Dark series altogether and go for something like a Pure Rock 2 Black? 

What case are you using? If it doesn't fit it doesn't matter what cooler you have? 

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1 minute ago, narrdarr said:

What case are you using? If it doesn't fit it doesn't matter what cooler you have? 

I am going to use the NZXT H510..

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2 minutes ago, CouRageRC said:

I am going to use the NZXT H510..

if you haven't bought it already, please don't. that case is an oven and no matter what cooler you pick, your temps will be bad.

get a better case (one with a mesh front) and a mid-level cooler.a normal dark 4 should be fine. or an arctic freezer 34 esports duo. or a scythe mugen

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5 minutes ago, CouRageRC said:

I am going to use the NZXT H510..

Well the case has 165mm of clearance and terrible air flow. So might as well go overkill. Drp4

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3600 doesn't  need much cooling, and to be brutally honest... paying $90 to cool a sub-$200 CPU?  Uhm, no.

 

Put the money into a better CPU or a better case.

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Okay how about I get something like the COOLER MASTER MASTERBOX MB511 RGB, LIAN LI LANCOOL 215 - BLACK or the DEEPCOOL MATREXX 55 MESH ADD-RGB 4F BLACK

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1 minute ago, Dedayog said:

3600 doesn't  need much cooling, and to be brutally honest... paying $90 to cool a sub-$200 CPU?  Uhm, no.

 

Put the money into a better CPU or a better case.

So like which cooler would you suggest?

 

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For budget dual-tower I'd recommend Gelid Phantom (black). Costs the least of any 120mm dual-tower, not the best by performance, but price/performance is great.

Costs around £30-35$ depending on where you live.

... but I'm no expert

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5 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

3600 doesn't  need much cooling, and to be brutally honest... paying $90 to cool a sub-$200 CPU?  Uhm, no.

 

Put the money into a better CPU or a better case.

Also, what if I go for a 3600xt, as anything above that is too pricey here

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10 minutes ago, CouRageRC said:

Okay how about I get something like the COOLER MASTER MASTERBOX MB511 RGB, LIAN LI LANCOOL 215 - BLACK or the DEEPCOOL MATREXX 55 MESH ADD-RGB 4F BLACK

Or even the COOLER MASTER MASTERBOX Q300P

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9 minutes ago, CouRageRC said:

Also, what if I go for a 3600xt, as anything above that is too pricey here

What exactly are the prices for the 3600, 3600x, 3600xt, 3700x, etc?

 

 

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Just now, Dedayog said:

What exactly are the prices for the 3600, 3600x, 3600xt, 3700x, etc?

 

 

The 3600 comes for $201

3600x and 3600xt come for $250

the 3700x comes for $341

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11 minutes ago, CouRageRC said:

The 3600 comes for $201

3600x and 3600xt come for $250

the 3700x comes for $341

Ahh.  3600 then.  3600x and 3600xt aren't worth 25% more.  

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15 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

Ahh.  3600 then.  3600x and 3600xt aren't worth 25% more.  

Cool thanks man

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R3600s Run weird and hot.

EVO 212 works just fine bringing it down from 90c load the stock provides (by at least 25c). Just flip the bracket over, it supports AM4 now.

You want adequate cooling for that chip and excellent airflow casewise.

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I am building in a NZXT H510 with a R5 3600, so should i keep the stock ( being barely enough ), a Cooler Master Hyper 212BE ( being a nice cooler for the 3600 ) or a beQuiet! Dark Rock 4 ( being overkill )?

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3 minutes ago, CouRageRC said:

I am building in a NZXT H510 with a R5 3600, so should i keep the stock ( being barely enough ), a Cooler Master Hyper 212BE ( being a nice cooler for the 3600 ) or a beQuiet! Dark Rock 4 ( being overkill )?

In all honesty, the stock cooler is likely fine. What is the intended use case of the system? 

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Just now, LIGISTX said:

In all honesty, the stock cooler is likely fine. What is the intended use case of the system? 

I will be doing mostly gaming, VERY light video editing, and in the future hopefully streaming, so yea, just Gaming, Word and Instagram for now :D 

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2 minutes ago, CouRageRC said:

I will be doing mostly gaming, VERY light video editing, and in the future hopefully streaming, so yea, just Gaming, Word and Instagram for now :D 

i would stick with the stock cooler, if it's too noisy for you then you can buy an aftermarket solution

if not, then keep it and maybe buy some doritos

 

or up the GPU budget (from your prev post)

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Companies I absolutely adore: (and hope it stays that way)

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be quiet! - sent me AM4 mounting for my DRP3 even though it's way past the timeframe stated, no questions asked

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Gigabyte: horrible customer service (gigabyte had literally 0 customer service, asked me to go to retailer with NO WAY to email them about a question) but at least they fixed my shit in ONE MONTH (would probably take me 1 hour to fix if they let me email them)

XiaoMi Phones: built like a tank but the software is buggy as all hell

Seagate HDD: had too many dead seagate drives

Kingston SSD: 300V controller swap thingy

Razer (except their mouse)

 

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Just now, CouRageRC said:

I will be doing mostly gaming, VERY light video editing, and in the future hopefully streaming, so yea, just Gaming, Word and Instagram for now :D 

Honestly, probably fine...

 

I would just go with stock for now and see how it does. If in the future you have a need to run it maxed out for extended periods of time and the temps drift up into the 80's during the stressful load, then I would consider something like a hyper 212.

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Just now, Moonzy said:

i would stick with the stock cooler, if it's too noisy for you then you can buy an aftermarket solution

if not, then keep it and maybe buy some doritos

 

or up the GPU budget (from your prev post)

Ooh alright thanks then, i was a bit concerned as people say the nzxt h series isn't great with airflow

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Just now, LIGISTX said:

Honestly, probably fine...

 

I would just go with stock for now and see how it does. If in the future you have a need to run it maxed out for extended periods of time and the temps drift up into the 80's during the stressful load, then I would consider something like a hyper 212.

Ookay, thank you so much!

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Just now, CouRageRC said:

Ooh alright thanks then, i was a bit concerned as people say the nzxt h series isn't great with airflow

they arent good for airflow, but no point worrying bout it before it's even an issue yet

Things I need help with:

Spoiler

none atm

 

I hate Intel's pricing, Ryzen's weird quirks, Nvidia's pricing, and Radeon GPUs in general

 

Spoiler

 

Products I like:

Spoiler

Sony Xperia Z1 / Z2 / 10 ii, Asus Strix 970 / 1070, Samsung SSD, WD HDD, Corsair PSUs (AX, RM, CX(grey)), GeForce GPU, NZXT N450/S340, be quiet! Coolers, G.Skill Trident RAM, Logitech M525, Logitech G440, Razer Deathadder Elite

 

Products I hate:

Spoiler

Xperia Z3, XiaoMi 5c, Radeon GPUs, Razer Audio Products, any bloatwares

 

Companies I absolutely adore: (and hope it stays that way)

Spoiler

be quiet! - sent me AM4 mounting for my DRP3 even though it's way past the timeframe stated, no questions asked

Corsair - very good RMA experience, absolutely recommend

 

Companies I hate:

Spoiler

Nvidia, Intel, Apple, TMT (Thundermatch, a retailer)

 

Personal Blacklisted Companies:

Spoiler

Acer: shit tier quality products, shit tier customer service thus far, they "tried" to solve my issue but they arent really doing anything but delaying and delaying. (on-going case since July)

Gigabyte: horrible customer service (gigabyte had literally 0 customer service, asked me to go to retailer with NO WAY to email them about a question) but at least they fixed my shit in ONE MONTH (would probably take me 1 hour to fix if they let me email them)

XiaoMi Phones: built like a tank but the software is buggy as all hell

Seagate HDD: had too many dead seagate drives

Kingston SSD: 300V controller swap thingy

Razer (except their mouse)

 

Remember, just because I had good/bad experiences with these companies/product, doesn't mean you will have similar experiences too. I would still recommend these products if they made sense for your needs, but I'll add a disclaimer of my experience if it's relevant. Feel free to DM me asking why they are where they are.

 

 

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Just now, Moonzy said:

they arent good for airflow, but no point worrying bout it before it's even an issue yet

Alright...thanks a lot!!

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