Cooler Help Air or Water

[Abdullah Bhutta]

Hi guys,

I find a lot of confusion between choosing from water to air or air to water cant decide which one is the best of the best sometime I think of water cooling then on the other side I thinks of air cooling which one of both is the best and which is the far most excellent item 

Some suggestions Please...

Doing a complete new build. with following specs

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Threadripper 3990X 2.9 GHz 64-Core Processor	$3699.99 @ B&H
CPU Cooler	be quiet! Dark Rock Pro TR4 59.5 CFM CPU Cooler	$89.90 @ Amazon
Thermal Compound	Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut 1g 1 g Thermal Paste	$5.94 @ ModMyMods
Motherboard	Gigabyte TRX40 AORUS PRO WIFI ATX sTRX4 Motherboard
Memory	G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL14 Memory	$219.99 @ Amazon
Memory	G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL14 Memory	$219.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$229.99 @ B&H
Storage	Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$229.99 @ B&H
Video Card	PNY Quadro RTX 8000 48 GB Video Card	$4809.00 @ Amazon
Case	be quiet! Dark Base Pro 900 Rev. 2 ATX Full Tower Case	$253.01 @ B&H
Power Supply	SeaSonic PRIME TX 1000 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
Operating System	Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit	$139.88 @ Other World Computing
Wireless Network Adapter	TP-Link Archer TX3000E PCIe x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac/ax Wi-Fi Adapter	$44.99 @ Amazon
Case Fan	Noctua F12 industrialPPC-3000 PWM 109.89 CFM 120 mm Fan	$25.95 @ Amazon
Case Fan	Noctua F12 industrialPPC-3000 PWM 109.89 CFM 120 mm Fan	$25.95 @ Amazon
Case Fan	Noctua F12 industrialPPC-3000 PWM 109.89 CFM 120 mm Fan	$25.95 @ Amazon
Case Fan	Noctua F12 industrialPPC-3000 PWM 109.89 CFM 120 mm Fan	$25.95 @ Amazon
Monitor	Asus ROG SWIFT PG27UQ 27.0" 3840x2160 144 Hz Monitor
Keyboard	Corsair K68 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard	$111.99 @ Best Buy
Mouse	Razer DeathAdder v2 Wired Optical Mouse	$55.99 @ Best Buy
Headphones	Astro A50 PS4 4th Gen + Base Station 7.1 Channel Headset
Speakers	Logitech Z906 500 W 5.1 Channel Speakers	$299.99 @ Amazon
Webcam	Logitech BRIO Ultra HD Pro Webcam	$199.99 @ B&H
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$10714.43
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-10-14 02:21 EDT-0400

[Guest]

Don't post twice. Also I would recommend going air cooling since you can get a very very good cooler than a crappy AIO at the same price. Also you won't be stuck without a PC when your pump dies a few years later.

[suedseefrucht]

26 minutes ago, Abdullah Bhutta said:

I find a lot of confusion between choosing from water to air or air to water cant decide which one is the best of the best sometime I think of water cooling then on the other side I thinks of air cooling which one of both is the best and which is the far most excellent item 

Some suggestions Please...

I was on a smaller budget but I compared air cooling and water cooling too.

When I compared AIO watercooling with aircooling (by bequiet!, or Noctua for example), I saw that air cooling was more silent and reached same or even lower temperatures.

If you go for custom watercooling and you pick silent fans for it, it could be better than aircooling.

But maintenance for custom watercooling will be more annoying than maintenance for aircooling.
With custom watercooling you will have to exchage the fluid, clean the inside of the parts where dirt/particles got stuck. With aircooling you just blow out the dust and it's done. And if you go for aircooling you don't have to dismantle everything like you would have to do with hard tubing when you want to upgrade something.

 

be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 is pretty popular and excellent.

[Guest]

Also why didn't you go quad channel with your RAM?

Edit:Actually this entire build is suspicious. You bought a quadro and gaming peripherals

Edited October 14, 2020 by Guest

[xentropa]

9 minutes ago, Berkomeister said:

Also why didn't you go quad channel with your RAM?

Edit:Actually this entire build is suspicious. You bought a quadro and gaming peripherals

And he needs a wifi card on a motherboard that already has it.

[Abdullah Bhutta]

35 minutes ago, Berkomeister said:

Don't post twice. Also I would recommend going air cooling since you can get a very very good cooler than a crappy AIO at the same price. Also you won't be stuck without a PC when your pump dies a few years later.

Price is not my concern. my concern is the best om the market.

Will it be a air cooler or an AIO?

(Please state name of product in case)

[Abdullah Bhutta]

14 minutes ago, Berkomeister said:

Also why didn't you go quad channel with your RAM?

Edit:Actually this entire build is suspicious. You bought a quadro and gaming peripherals

The Quadro is not final yet. But i will have two builds one for gaming and one for heavy workload both will be probably Amd high end CPU's like the Zen 3 and one is TR 3990x

[xentropa]

Well in that case I'd go all out custom loop with monster HDMI/displayport and Audioquest Lan cables.

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Abdullah Bhutta said:

Price is not my concern. my concern is the best om the market.

Will it be a air cooler or an AIO?

(Please state name of product in case)

Depends on the pc case. If you have a case with great airflow It may even beat AIO's. So I can't really say anything for sure. Try searching for cooler comparisons on YT

[Abdullah Bhutta]

1 minute ago, xentropa said:

Well in that case I'd go all out custom loop with monster HDMI/displayport and Audioquest Lan cables.

what are talking about i cant understand the monster thing and also i need wifi card for something else

[Abdullah Bhutta]

1 minute ago, Berkomeister said:

Depends on the pc case. If you have a case with great airflow It may even beat AIO's. So I can't really say anything for sure. Try searching for cooler comparisons on YT

I did see this comparison review:-

I am keep confusing on this part if air cooling is better than AIO then why does Linus and other youtubers uses AIO for there all builds,,, only few with air cooling

[Abdullah Bhutta]

4 minutes ago, Berkomeister said:

Depends on the pc case.

Which case is the best airflow case on the market?

[Guest]

Just now, Abdullah Bhutta said:

I did see this comparison review:-

I am keep confusing on this part if air cooling is better than AIO then why does Linus and other youtubers uses AIO for there all builds,,, only few with air cooling

Sometimes they just do it for the RGB and stuff. But most of the cases I remember him building in don't have very good airflow. That's why he uses AIO's

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Abdullah Bhutta said:

Which case is the best airflow case on the market?

I've heard good things about Fractal Design Meshify C and Cooler Master H500. If you go for something with an mesh front panel you should be fine.

[Abdullah Bhutta]

1 minute ago, Berkomeister said:

Sometimes they just do it for the RGB and stuff. But most of the cases I remember him building in don't have very good airflow. That's why he uses AIO's

Then what is the best airflow case on the market. and also in this comparison video air cooler won than the AIO and it was not the full size. i mean there a more out there than the Noctua that they used in this comparison review

[suedseefrucht]

5 minutes ago, Abdullah Bhutta said:

I am keep confusing on this part if air cooling is better than AIO then why does Linus and other youtubers uses AIO for there all builds,,, only few with air cooling

An AIO is mostly a choice for good looking.
If you put a big air cooler on you motherboard it's harder to see your RGB RAM.
So they use AIOs to show off the motherboard.

[Abdullah Bhutta]

3 minutes ago, Berkomeister said:

I've heard good things about Fractal Design Meshify C and Cooler Master H500.

Then what should i go for water or air?

[Abdullah Bhutta]

1 minute ago, suedseefrucht said:

An AIO is mostly a choice for good looking.
If you put a big air cooler on you motherboard it's harder to see your RGB RAM.
So they use AIOs to show off the motherboard.

i need working power not show off the mobo

dont care rgb

[suedseefrucht]

5 minutes ago, Berkomeister said:

I've heard good things about Fractal Design Meshify C and Cooler Master H500. If you go for something with an mesh front panel you should be fine.

Also Phanteks P400A, P500A

[Guest]

34 minutes ago, Abdullah Bhutta said:

Then what should i go for water or air?

Those are cases that would work well with air cooling. I would go with air cooling since I really don't like AIO's because they die and leave you without a PC (happened to me) I also really didn't see that much of a difference when I swapped to air cooling. 

Edit: Also it's quieter

[Abdullah Bhutta]

Just now, Berkomeister said:

Those are cases that would work well with air cooling. I would go with air cooling since I really don't like AIO's because they die and leave you without a PC (happened to me) I also really didn't see that much of a differance when I swapped to air cooling

and also i my opinion water takes up all the heat quickly when its cold and when the water is warm then it will be a different story.

and the air cooler is just purring in more and more fresh cool air cooling it down

[Bouncewasp]

I personally went through this debate when building (and rebuilding!) my system over the past year or so. I like the idea of water cooling and ended up with a Deepcool 240 and now a Castle 360 AIO (both effectively the same company, at the budget end of the scale). I looked at loads of youtube reviews and I think it's easy to get sucked into the various testing and benefits of 1-2deg here and there. Ultimately for anyone who's not trying to beat a world record, just get what you like the aesthetics of? My budget brand AIOs have kept my CPU well below 40deg under gaming loads and well under 60 under stress tests. Sure maybe a good air cooler would drop another few deg but I'm honestly not going to notice day to day, and personally don't like the look of the big chunky air coolers.

[Abdullah Bhutta]

3 minutes ago, Bouncewasp said:

 and personally don't like the look of the big chunky air coolers.

i like air coolers but also need lots of power and less maintenance 

[Guest]

9 minutes ago, Abdullah Bhutta said:

and also i my opinion water takes up all the heat quickly when its cold and when the water is warm then it will be a different story.

and the air cooler is just purring in more and more fresh cool air cooling it down

Big air coolers also tend to cool the motherboard a bit. Kinda useful if your chipset is running hot after overclocking

[Guest]

By the way can you tell me the temps if you ever build this PC. Looking to upgrade to Zen 3 with no idea on cooling