upgrade What Should I upgrade to run forza horizon 4 smoothly

[PrateekPanwar64]

I want to run forza horizon 4 smoothly without stutters. I'm confused what should I upgrade my CPU or RAM. I cannot change my motherboard right now, So I'm thinking for old used i5 6400.

 

I get stutters even after going upto 35fps. My GPU can do 60 easily at medium settings.

 

My specs:

CPU: i3 6100

RAM: 1 x 8gb ddr4 @ 2133 mhz

GPU: gtx 1050 ti

Motherboard: Asus H110m - cs

[SupaKomputa]

Used RX580, at 1080p ultra 60fps.

Or a new 5500xt / 1650ti.

[Vishera]

Just now, SupaKomputa said:

Used RX580

Not much of an upgrade.

It's like upgrading from a 1660 Super to a RTX 2060.

[Levent]

Due to their filesystem encryption genuine copies for FH3 and FH4 has a massive CPU load. I would suggest you to monitor your component load in game with RTSS.

[SkilledRebuilds]

6 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

Used RX580, at 1080p ultra 60fps.

Or a new 5500xt / 1650ti.

He doesn't need those for FORZA games... they run on 1050Ti/7970 performance base at 60FPS Medium/High mixes of settings.
His Single RAM stick is the issue.

28 minutes ago, King Spartan said:

Get a new CPU and GPU and 16gb ram. Get a ryzen 3600 with a b450 motherboard that will be around $280usd plus a rx580 or 5600xt or a used 1070. And a cheap 16 GB of ram.

This game runs GPU's to 100% with just 4 threads and Dualchannel Ram. His Ram is the HUGE letdown here...

38 minutes ago, PrateekPanwar64 said:

I want to run forza horizon 4 smoothly without stutters. I'm confused what should I upgrade my CPU or RAM. I cannot change my motherboard right now, So I'm thinking for old used i5 6400.

 

I get stutters even after going upto 35fps. My GPU can do 60 easily at medium settings.

 

My specs:

CPU: i3 6100

RAM: 1 x 8gb ddr4 @ 2133 mhz

GPU: gtx 1050 ti

Motherboard: Asus H110m - cs

Go Dualchannel Ram, its CHEAP, easy to install, nothing else changes.. and its ABSOLUTELY killing your performance right now only having a Single Channel Stick of Ram as your Memory platform (Gaming)

 

2 minutes ago, Levent said:

Due to their filesystem encryption genuine copies for FH3 and FH4 has a massive CPU load. I would suggest you to monitor your component load in game with RTSS.

When is the Massive CPU load?, I run this on 4thread PC's with full GPU usages at 60FPS locked.
Maybe if you chase 90FPS+ your CPU demands go up greatly, but not for lesser circumstances.

[SavageNeo]

1 minute ago, Vishera said:

Not much of an upgrade.

It's like upgrading from a 1660 Super to a RTX 2060.

from 1050 ti it is a big upgrade. i currently have the 1050ti on second pc, it is not that good. can r8un apex at 60-70 fps on medium. rx 580 can run better at ultra

[SupaKomputa]

1 minute ago, Vishera said:

Not much of an upgrade.

It's like upgrading from a 1660 Super to a RTX 2060.

Really? I upgraded from 1050ti to RX580, 35fps to 60-80fps, you really feel the difference.

If "smooth enough" is your aim, i don't think spending for 1660 is wise choice.

[SkilledRebuilds]

1 minute ago, SavageNeo said:

from 1050 ti it is a big upgrade. i currently have the 1050ti on second pc, it is not that good. can r8un apex at 60-70 fps on medium. rx 580 can run better at ultra

Apex isn't Forza. You can't compare "GAINS" between different games.
He isn't after an Upgrade, just a cheap Solution.
The 1050Ti is still 1080p Medium on FORZA (62-70FPS AVG)

[SupaKomputa]

3 minutes ago, SkilledRebuilds said:

He doesn't need those for FORZA games... they run on 1050Ti/7970 performance base at 60FPS Medium/High mixes of settings.
His Single RAM stick is the issue.

This game runs GPU's to 100% with just 4 threads and Dualchannel Ram. His Ram is the HUGE letdown here...

Go Dualchannel Ram, its CHEAP, easy to install, nothing else changes.. and its ABSOLUTELY killing your performance right now only having a Single Channel Stick of Ram as your Memory platform (Gaming)

 

When is the Massive CPU load?, I run this on 4thread PC's with full GPU usages at 60FPS locked.
Maybe if you chase 90FPS+ your CPU demands go up greatly, but not for lesser circumstances.

Bullshit. At best a dual channel will only boost 5-10%.

A GPU upgrade to like rx580, 50% boost minimum.

Yes it can run 60fps at lowest settings.

[SavageNeo]

Just now, SkilledRebuilds said:

Apex isn't Forza. You can't compare "GAINS" between different games.

yes, but I just said that rx 580 is much ebtter than 1050 ti to vishera. I did nto say anything about forza.

 

for forza 1050 ti will do. just ahve better cpu than dual core and dual channel ram. i5 6400 is pretty cheap. it is decent combo (1050ti+i5 6400).

8 gigs more ram will help too.

[SavageNeo]

2 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

A GPU upgrade to like rx580, 50% boost minimum.

yes, but with that dual core it wont be much of a boost at all. even my i5 7400 is somewhat bottleneck for 1050 ti. i mean at medium srettings at apex my cpu is pinned at 100% while the gpu is 80-95%.

 

Edit: at high/ultra cpu is at ~90% usage and gpu 100%

[SkilledRebuilds]

4 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

yes, but with that dual core it wont be much of a boost at all. even my i5 7400 is somewhat bottleneck for 1050 ti.

 

i mean at medium srettings at apex my cpu is pinned at 100% while the gpu is 80-95%.

 

Edit: at high/ultra cpu is at ~90% usage and gpu 100%

Not surprising.. it's a different game to Forza and has different demands. Forza is optimised AF.

[Levent]

8 minutes ago, SkilledRebuilds said:

When is the Massive CPU load?, I run this on 4thread PC's with full GPU usages at 60FPS locked.

Maybe if you chase 90FPS+ your CPU demands go up greatly, but not for lesser circumstances.

Every time new asset needs to be loaded, this would be more noticeable when you drive at higher speeds. FH3 and FH4 maxed out my 3570K running at 4.7ghz even with a HD7850, despite only getting 30fps at high/medium mix. I got higher FPS when I got a GTX970 but every time I set my CPU clocks to 4.2ghz for lower fan speeds I would get a noticeable stutter and lower fps. 

[SupaKomputa]

1 minute ago, SavageNeo said:

yes, but with that dual core it wont be much of a boost at all. even my i5 7400 is somewhat bottleneck for 1050 ti. i mean at medium srettings at apex my cpu is pinned at 100% while the gpu is 80-95%.

Make sense, but i suggest getting the GPU first, then upgrade the CPU if not enough.

It would be great if he can upgrade all the pieces, but as budget concern, gpu->memory->cpu.

I was coming from a 1600 with 1050ti, still the FPS cannot sustain 60fps at high settings.

[Morrie Sells Wigs]

2 hours ago, King Spartan said:

Get a new CPU and GPU and 16gb ram. Get a ryzen 3600 with a b450 motherboard that will be around $280usd plus a rx580 or 5600xt or a used 1070. And a cheap 16 GB of ram.

I'm sure he'll pop outside to the money tree in his garden and pick some 20s and 50s.

[PlayStation 2]

I have actual experience with this game here, get some RAM before you touch anything else. Your 1050Ti will be fine so long as you don’t touch the MSAA option and your i3 should still be okay if an Athlon X4 950 can muscle through it.

[PrateekPanwar64]

On 10/8/2020 at 3:10 PM, SkilledRebuilds said:

He doesn't need those for FORZA games... they run on 1050Ti/7970 performance base at 60FPS Medium/High mixes of settings.
His Single RAM stick is the issue.

This game runs GPU's to 100% with just 4 threads and Dualchannel Ram. His Ram is the HUGE letdown here...

Go Dualchannel Ram, its CHEAP, easy to install, nothing else changes.. and its ABSOLUTELY killing your performance right now only having a Single Channel Stick of Ram as your Memory platform (Gaming)

 

When is the Massive CPU load?, I run this on 4thread PC's with full GPU usages at 60FPS locked.
Maybe if you chase 90FPS+ your CPU demands go up greatly, but not for lesser circumstances.

Thanks. I was thinking same as neither I can afford a rx 580 / gtx 1650 super / Ryzen 5 3600 ($350 in India) for single game.
I'm fine with even 45 fps just stutters were big problem and Input lag. I can upgrade ram much easily. Thanks again to everyone for answers

[PrateekPanwar64]

On 10/8/2020 at 3:15 PM, SupaKomputa said:

Bullshit. At best a dual channel will only boost 5-10%.

A GPU upgrade to like rx580, 50% boost minimum.

Yes it can run 60fps at lowest settings.

Thanks for reply. I don't want higher fps. I just don't want stutters. It just stops suddenly, I've seen benchmarks and 1050 ti can easily pull 60 fps at high.
I was confused if it was my CPU or RAM as I will need new motherboard for new CPU. So, getting same RAM

[Morrie Sells Wigs]

On 10/8/2020 at 6:10 PM, King Spartan said:

He or she never posted that he was on a budget. The best way to improve his experience is to change all those things and I tried to list the cheapest alternatives with upgrade opportunity.

I know, but it's easy to just chuck money at a problem. 

 

Anyone can say that.

 

He's asking for advice on a workaround, or an explanation as to why he might be having an issue - and any help needs to be something he can try asap and which doesn't require any cost.

 

At least in the immediate short term.

 

That's all i was trying to say, and it wasn't meant in a mean spirited way - more as a cheeky dig.

[PrateekPanwar64]

On 10/8/2020 at 9:16 PM, handymanshandle said:

I have actual experience with this game here, get some RAM before you touch anything else. Your 1050Ti will be fine so long as you don’t touch the MSAA option and your i3 should still be okay if an Athlon X4 950 can muscle through it.

Ok. Yeah I can reach up to 60 fps on Ultra at normal day in winter. It's just stutters, I'm satisfied because I mostly use it for programming, Learning. Don't play Apex so I'm ok.
Trying this thanks to you and SkilledRebuilds

[SkilledRebuilds]

14 minutes ago, PrateekPanwar64 said:

Ok. Yeah I can reach up to 60 fps on Ultra at normal day in winter. It's just stutters, I'm satisfied because I mostly use it for programming, Learning. Don't play Apex so I'm ok.
Trying this thanks to you and SkilledRebuilds

Thanks man, You bring up Forza and everyone uses other games to justify telling you to upgrade...for their games which are not applicable to Forza and YOUR needs. lol.. Hope its all sweet, sitting pretty and if you want please come back to this with your Dualchannel Ram opinions please...