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1 hour ago, xg32 said:

yikes, multiple benchmarks showing it barely ahead of the 2080 ti, looks like specific games like bl3/doom puts it ahead but now we know why those games were used.

BitWit has some seriously skewed results by downclocking his CPU.  I think JayZ2cents did the best job of the reviewers I've watched here, because he identifies that the 3080 is tremendously fast, but the CPU and even 1440p (in some titles) are becoming limiting factors.  With higher end hardware the gap is more like 40 to 80%

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5 minutes ago, Lord Bloobus said:

I've watched Bitwit, Nexus, Jay, and Linus; Jay and Linus ( and sometimes Nexus) are the only ones actually using the card that this is meant to be compared to. If they used a 2080 Super, they're not making the actual comparison that we're looking for since the Super tier is about 5-10% better than stock.

i also think that is the thing that confused people, because the super card is nearly closer to the 2080ti than the 2080.

 

but Jay uses the 2080AMP non Super non ti.. that seems to be the best comparison. Linus also stepped in it, because i do believe that NVIDIA was quite obvious saying that the 2x performance was in Raytracing and vs the 2080 non TI... he should have re-recorded that, instead of putting a "text" on top of the video, and then just keeping it a bit obvious in the whole rant.. because he was complaining about an non issue.

 

i REALLY hope that AMD strikes back, don´t want a AMD card with the driver issues i had on my sons 5700XT, but the fight between these guys and the consoles, are actually delivering massive performance gains.

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Just now, Zenith_X1 said:

BitWit has some seriously skewed results by downclocking his CPU.  I think JayZ2cents did the best job of the reviewers I've watched here, because he identifies that the 3080 is tremendously fast, but the CPU and even the monitor are becoming limiting factors

ya it looks better after watching the other benchmarks, bitwit had it at 11% while GN and HUB had it around 20%

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2 minutes ago, xg32 said:

ya it looks better after watching the other benchmarks, bitwit had it at 11% while GN and HUB had it around 20%

I misread the comment as well, 2080 Ti isn't a great point of comparison either because of the price gap :P

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Just now, RasmusDC said:

i also think that is the thing that confused people, because the super card is nearly closer to the 2080ti than the 2080.

 

but Jay uses the 2080AMP non Super non ti.. that seems to be the best comparison. Linus also stepped in it, because i do believe that NVIDIA was quite obvious saying that the 2x performance was in Raytracing and vs the 2080 non TI... he should have re-recorded that, instead of putting a "text" on top of the video, and then just keeping it a bit obvious in the whole rant.. because he was complaining about an non issue.

 

i REALLY hope that AMD strikes back, don´t want a AMD card with the driver issues i had on my sons 5700XT, but the fight between these guys and the consoles, are actually delivering massive performance gains.

I'll agree the big 200% is from the new technology, but raw horsepower is still a large jump from the norm which is worthwhile for anyone running anything lesser than a 2080ti.

 

1 minute ago, xg32 said:

ya it looks better after watching the other benchmarks, bitwit had it at 11% while GN and HUB had it around 20%

And yeah, I'm not sure what's up with Bitwit only testing against a 2080ti, that seems lazy and not indicative of someone trying to accurately present a good comparison to the systems his viewers and consumers as a whole actually have.

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2 minutes ago, Lord Bloobus said:

I'll agree the big 200% is from the new technology, but raw horsepower is still a large jump from the norm which is worthwhile for anyone running anything lesser than a 2080ti.

 

And yeah, I'm not sure what's up with Bitwit only testing against a 2080ti, that seems lazy and not indicative of someone trying to accurately present a good comparison to the systems his viewers and consumers as a whole actually have.

100% agreed, my 1080ti will be a 3080 as soon as they are on stock, because a 50 ish % jump plus me getting raytracing is wort the 699 (or 6000ish dkkr in denmark) will be going for the strix, need the extra HDMI port, and to be honest, i have always been okay with the cooling solutions on the strix, so i trust that.

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27 minutes ago, Lord Bloobus said:

I've watched Bitwit, Nexus, Jay, and Linus; Jay and Linus ( and sometimes Nexus) are the only ones actually using the card that this is meant to be compared to. If they used a 2080 Super, they're not making the actual comparison that we're looking for since the Super tier is about 5-10% better than stock.

i've watched many reviews...but the more credible type (lol) like digital foundry, hardware unboxed and gamers nexus and OVERALL after watching many reviews (i also watched Jayz 2 cents and bitwit and paul and some others) the RTX 3080 in RASTERIZATION alone (OLDER GAMES, or new games with RTX OFF) is around 25-30% faster than 2080ti i would say and around 55-60% Faster than 2080 NON SUPER.

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1 minute ago, RasmusDC said:

100% agreed, my 1080ti will be a 3080 as soon as they are on stock, because a 50 ish % jump plus me getting raytracing is wort the 699 (or 6000ish dkkr in denmark) will be going for the strix, need the extra HDMI port, and to be honest, i have always been okay with the cooling solutions on the strix, so i trust that.

I'm also coming from a 1080 so I've been waiting for a good release to upgrade it, this is most definitely the one. I run 3 panels and only 1 is HDMI so I'll be fine with stock FE, plus DP is still looking to be the future of displays PC wise, but maybe HDMI continues to be competitive.

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Just now, Lord Bloobus said:

I'm also coming from a 1080 so I've been waiting for a good release to upgrade it, this is most definitely the one. I run 3 panels and only 1 is HDMI so I'll be fine with stock FE, plus DP is still looking to be the future of displays PC wise, but maybe HDMI continues to be competitive.

it's a worthy upgrade...even from the 1080ti it's a HUGE push now.

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Just now, i_build_nanosuits said:

it's a worthy upgrade...even from the 1080ti it's a HUGE push now.

Yeah, anybody scoffing at these from their 2080ti are just trying to sit in their $1200-1500 hole and trying not to feel sad. I always take my PC part research very seriously and this is easily the biggest jump in performance for my games since literally ever.

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31 minutes ago, Lord Bloobus said:

If this is what you think based off this singular review, you're quite wrong, go watch more. People panic selling were trying to recoup money, it's still better used on a 3080, meaning if you bought and panic sold a 2080ti, you're stupid for buying it in the first place at the mere mention of a performance increase.

 

Don't like that he only benched against a 2080ti when most users aren't using one, and it's supposed to be compared to the 2080. Pretty much only Jay and Linus had 2080s in their bench lineup.

I haven't even watched any reviews. I just only had time to look through kotaku's graphs. They still sold it out of panic anyway. It's a gpu, they don't hold value that long anyway.

 

It should be compared to the 2080 ti, thats how it has been these last few generations. Blame nvidia for the high cost of the 2000 series.

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Just now, Lord Bloobus said:

Yeah, anybody scoffing at these from their 2080ti are just trying to sit in their $1200-1500 hole and trying not to feel sad. I always take my PC part research very seriously and this is easily the biggest jump in performance for my games since literally ever.

yeah no all the reviewers are positive it IS the most significant uplift in performance in years...it's even bigger than 980 to 1080 which made the 1080/1080ti legends...

 

i agree, if you're saying that kind of stuff you're a salty 20 series buyer and these cards arent for you and the 3080 isnt meant to replace your 2080ti...first you should NOT own a 2080ti...you should have a 2080...and the replacement for that will be the 4080.

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19 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

yeah no all the reviewers are positive it IS the most significant uplift in performance in years...it's even bigger than 980 to 1080 which made the 1080/1080ti legends...

 

i agree, if you're saying that kind of stuff you're a salty 20 series buyer and these cards arent for you and the 3080 isnt meant to replace your 2080ti...first you should NOT own a 2080ti...you should have a 2080...and the replacement for that will be the 4080.

The 1000 series is legendary because it's been such a robust series for so long, I can't think of any card I've been more pleased with :)

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Just now, Lord Bloobus said:

The 1000 series is legendary because it's been such a robust series for so long, I can't think of any card I've been more pleased with :)

i bought a HD7950 brand new a month after it launched...it played games on full detail HD1080p for like 3.5 years...so yeah...1080ti was great but i've seen better...

 

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Oh well, the 3080 FE isn't worth it over my 2080Ti for the games and resolution that I play at, 1440P..

 

Will wait and see what the AIB cards do and the 3090's.

 

Meanwhile enjoying playing Control at 1440P with all the settings cranked up on my 2080Ti. :)

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