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Can I overclock i7 10700K to max limits with this cooler?

8 minutes ago, Chris Redfield said:

 If I buy this cooler will I be able to overclock it it's max limits:
https://www2.arctic.ac/liquidfreezer2/liquid-freezer-240-en/

 

This cooler is not enough for a 10700K... (It will overheat)

I recommend a 360mm water cooler,but you may be able to overclock with a Noctua NH-D15.

The 10700K requires a serious cooling solution since it consumes 250W under full load:

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3 minutes ago, Vishera said:

This cooler is not enough for a 10700K... (It will overheat)

I recommend a 360mm water cooler,but you may be able to overclock with a Noctua NH-D15.

The 10700K requires a serious cooling solution since it consumes 250W under full load:

index.php?ct=articles&action=file&id=621

Will this cooler be enough for big overclocking:

https://www2.arctic.ac/liquidfreezer2/liquid-freezer-360-en-2/

And will I be able to use it on next generation CPUs once I buy next CPU after 4-5 years?

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28 minutes ago, Chris Redfield said:

Will this cooler be enough for big overclocking:

https://www2.arctic.ac/liquidfreezer2/liquid-freezer-360-en-2/

And will I be able to use it on next generation CPUs once I buy next CPU after 4-5 years?

Yes,it will be enough but you will have to refill it once in a while.

 

This is even worse.

If you are on a tight budget for cooling then you will have to abandon the 10700K and choose a less power hungry CPU.

The minimum i recommend is this cooler:

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Cooler Noctua NH-D15 CHROMAX.BLACK 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler $99.95 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $99.95
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-09-07 07:45 EDT-0400  

 

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31 minutes ago, Chris Redfield said:

Will this cooler be enough for big overclocking:

https://www2.arctic.ac/liquidfreezer2/liquid-freezer-360-en-2/

And will I be able to use it on next generation CPUs once I buy next CPU after 4-5 years?

If you have a tight budget on cooling then abandon the 10700K and get these parts:

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-10600K 4.1 GHz 6-Core Processor $289.99 @ B&H
CPU Cooler Noctua NH-D15 CHROMAX.BLACK 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler $99.95 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $389.94
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-09-07 07:51 EDT-0400  

 

Also what case and motherboard do you have?

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15 minutes ago, Vishera said:

This is even worse.

360mm of the same cooler is worse than the 240mm, something's really wrong

 

Freezer II 360 and 280 will do, 240... maybe not, air cooler wont do it.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

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2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

360mm of the same cooler is worse than the 240mm, something's really wrong

Oh man,i just looked at the gallery and saw pictures of a 120mm cooler.

Silly me didn't notice it was Arctic being lazy and shoving everything from different products into one page...

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26 minutes ago, Chris Redfield said:

Will this cooler be enough for big overclocking:

https://www2.arctic.ac/liquidfreezer2/liquid-freezer-360-en-2/

And will I be able to use it on next generation CPUs once I buy next CPU after 4-5 years?

Yes,it will be enough but you will have to refill it once in a while.

I messed up with my previous posts,sorry about that. (Thank you @Jurrunio for noticing)

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The 240mm LF II will be fine - Buildzoid overclocked his 10700K with one.

The 10700K is basically a 9900K that's substantially easier to cool. Unless you lose the silicon lottery hard, you'll be fine.

 

Though then again, what does "overclock to its max limits" mean to you?

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19 minutes ago, Vishera said:

If you have a tight budget on cooling then abandon the 10700K and get these parts:

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-10600K 4.1 GHz 6-Core Processor $289.99 @ B&H
CPU Cooler Noctua NH-D15 CHROMAX.BLACK 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler $99.95 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $389.94
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-09-07 07:51 EDT-0400  

 

Also what case and motherboard do you have?

I have  this case https://www.silentiumpc.com/en/product/armis-ar5x-tg-rgb/

and plan to buy this motherboard MSI Z490-A Pro

 

You said I have to refill it once in a while,can you tell me how often do I have to do it,because I never had any experience with liquid coolers.

 

 

 

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Just now, Chris Redfield said:

You said I have to refill it once in a while,can you tell me how often do I have to do it,because I never had any experience with liquid coolers.

I recommend to refill every 3 to 4 years.

And just to clarify the 10700K will work great with this cooler you asked about: https://www2.arctic.ac/liquidfreezer2/liquid-freezer-360-en-2/

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11 minutes ago, Chris Redfield said:

You said I have to refill it once in a while,can you tell me how often do I have to do it,because I never had any experience with liquid coolers.

 

Also you can follow this guide to refill the loop:

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What I will do:
1. I bought new liquid with biozid and anti corrosion.
2. I will unscrew the bottom of the pump, clean it and try to empty it as best I can.
3. I will fill it with the new liquid and try to get all the air out of the system.
4. Closed again, I will leave it running outside my system to check for any leaks.
5. I will remount it to the system and run some tests to see how it performs.

 

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17 minutes ago, Vishera said:

I recommend to refill every 3 to 4 years.

And just to clarify the 10700K will work great with this cooler you asked about: https://www2.arctic.ac/liquidfreezer2/liquid-freezer-360-en-2/

OK.

Do you perhaps know how long does this types of liquid coolers last?

I was hoping I could use it after 5 years on new CPU,but then again,I'm not sure will it last that long nor will it be able to cool new CPU?

8 minutes ago, Vishera said:

Also you can follow this guide to refill the loop:

 

Thanks for guide.It doesn't look that complicate.

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1 hour ago, Chris Redfield said:

Airflow doesnt look like its strong suit by any means

 

1 hour ago, Chris Redfield said:

plan to buy this motherboard MSI Z490-A Pro

Then this will be the bottleneck for your overclock. 10700k is easier to cool than a 9900k, but the power draw has barely reduced.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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38 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Airflow doesnt look like its strong suit by any means

 

Then this will be the bottleneck for your overclock. 10700k is easier to cool than a 9900k, but the power draw has barely reduced.

Are you sure that it doesn't have good airflow?

I bought it mainly because people who owned it claimed it has fantastic airflow.It has 3 vents in front and 1 in the back.

Will bottleneck for overclock be significant,moderate or low?

Liquid cooler that I'm going to buy have VRM cooler,is that helping at all?

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2 hours ago, Chris Redfield said:

Are you sure that it doesn't have good airflow?

Nope,The airflow is bad,the glass front panel blocks the front which render it a hot box.

2 hours ago, Chris Redfield said:

Will bottleneck for overclock be significant,moderate or low?

When it comes to overclocking you need good VRMs,especially with the amounts of power the 10700K can draw.

 

This is a better motherboard for overclocking:

https://www.links.hr/hr/maticna-ploca-msi-z490-tomahawk-intel-z490-ddr4-atx-s-1200-050300531

2 hours ago, Chris Redfield said:

Liquid cooler that I'm going to buy have VRM cooler,is that helping at all?

It's a fan for the VRMs,i am not sure how much it will help but i had rather buy a motherboard with sufficient VRMs in the first place.

 

The fan is tiny and doesn't cover much.

Also i don't know how much air it can move and how effective it is:

 

Liquid_Freezer_II_360_G04.jpg

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32 minutes ago, Vishera said:

Nope,The airflow is bad,the glass front panel blocks the front which render it a hot box.

When it comes to overclocking you need good VRMs,especially with the amounts of power the 10700K can draw.

 

This is a motherboard with better VRMs:

https://www.links.hr/hr/maticna-ploca-msi-z490-tomahawk-intel-z490-ddr4-atx-s-1200-050300531

It's a fan for the VRMs,i am not sure how much it will help but i had rather buy a motherboard with sufficient VRMs in the first place.

 

The fan is tiny and doesn't cover much.

Also i don't know how much air it can move and how effective it is:

 

Liquid_Freezer_II_360_G04.jpg

Yeah,the front glass blocks the flow,there are two side panels that are open and they suck in air with the help of those 3 fans in the front.

I plan to keep everything at stock for some time,once I overclock GPU and CPU I will turn all fans near max speed.

 

I will buy motherboard you linked.Nice find on Croatian language :)

 

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10 minutes ago, Chris Redfield said:

Yeah,the front glass blocks the flow,there are two side panels that are open and they suck in air with the help of those 3 fans in the front.

It's still a hot box.

10 minutes ago, Chris Redfield said:

I will buy motherboard you linked.Nice find on Croatian language :)

Speaking a bit of Latin helps quite a lot in understanding a lot of European languages,such as Spanish,Romanian and Italian.

Seems like the Croatian language was influenced by Latin so i was able to understand a bit.

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2 hours ago, Chris Redfield said:

Are you sure that it doesn't have good airflow?

I bought it mainly because people who owned it claimed it has fantastic airflow.It has 3 vents in front and 1 in the back.

The side vents are open, but the size and the fact that it's at an right angle to the fan's blowing direction means it's mediocre if cases with full mesh fronts as considered "excellent". Far from the worst design with a solid front, but it's still a solid front.

 

2 hours ago, Chris Redfield said:

Will bottleneck for overclock be significant,moderate or low?

Liquid cooler that I'm going to buy have VRM cooler,is that helping at all?

Low. Moderate if looking at max OC and heavy AVX workload (will reach 250w power draw without much effort), but in games it will max out at about 200w even at max usage.

 

Help is help, but more like "better than none" level. Small fans get noisy easily so they are usually run slowly, further limiting airflow it can provide

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

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59 minutes ago, Vishera said:

It's still a hot box.

Speaking a bit of Latin helps quite a lot in understanding a lot of European languages,such as Spanish,Romanian and Italian.

Seems like the Croatian language was influenced by Latin so i was able to understand a bit.

I wouldn't mind putting all fans from components to high or even max because it will only make more noise which doesn't bother me.

29 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

The side vents are open, but the size and the fact that it's at an right angle to the fan's blowing direction means it's mediocre if cases with full mesh fronts as considered "excellent". Far from the worst design with a solid front, but it's still a solid front.

 

Low. Moderate if looking at max OC and heavy AVX workload (will reach 250w power draw without much effort), but in games it will max out at about 200w even at max usage.

 

Help is help, but more like "better than none" level. Small fans get noisy easily so they are usually run slowly, further limiting airflow it can provide

I just looked at my case dimensions and found the user manual concerning radiator compatibility:
Rear: 120mm
Top: 120/240mm
Front: 120/140/240/280/360mm

 

I supposed I can't buy 360 version to fit on top then?

 

As for motherboard I will buy the one that Vishera suggested.

This model:MSI MAG Z490 Tomahawk

 
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1 minute ago, Chris Redfield said:

I supposed I can't buy 360 version to fit on top then?

 

You can mount it on the front but i am not sure how it will affect performance.

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2 minutes ago, Vishera said:

You can mount it on the front but i am not sure how it will affect performance.

Will it affect performance a lot,moderate,or low by your opinion considering it doesn't have great cooling as it is.

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4 minutes ago, Chris Redfield said:

Will it affect performance a lot,moderate,or low by your opinion considering it doesn't have great cooling as it is.

I am sure it will be fine.

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35 minutes ago, Chris Redfield said:

I supposed I can't buy 360 version to fit on top then?

You cant. In many mid tower cases top radiator mounts are especially tricky because then there's a problem of heatsinks on the board getting in the way of the radiator.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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39 minutes ago, Chris Redfield said:

This model:MSI MAG Z490 Tomahawk

How's pricing on the Gaming Edge WIFI for you locally, compared to the Tomahawk?

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