Which motherboard is best for the RTX 3080?

[BIOSphereXx]

I am planning my new PC build around the 3080 and an i9 9900K.

Since I have not purchased a motherboard yet, I may as well get one with PCIE 4.0.

Is the Gigabyte (Z390/Z490) Aorus Elite 4.0? Or should I find a different motherboard option?

[Shimejii]

Would not recommend you buy a 9900k if you havent bought it yet. Unless you have a really good deal the 10700k should be cheaper and the same cpu, and the z490 boards should cost the same.

 

Also do note the z390 board is the only one compatible of the two you listed, z490 is LGA 1200 thus only the 10000 series would work.

 

 

[BIOSphereXx]

I have not purchased any parts yet! I will look into the 10700k!

Are you saying it is the the only one compatible with the above CPU? or the GPU?

[Shimejii]

3 minutes ago, natashablong said:

I have not purchased any parts yet! I will look into the 10700k!

Are you saying it is the the only one compatible with the above CPU? or the GPU?

For the CPU and mobos you listed, the 9900k would only work on the z390 (its LGA 1151, the actual pins on the CPU/mobo) Whereas the z490 is LGA 1200, so only 10000 series CPUS would work on that board.

 

The GPU will work on any board the is modern, which means it just needs a proper functioning PCIE lane. 

[BIOSphereXx]

Great! Do you think that the Gigabyte Z490 Elite is a good quality Motherboard that won't be too quickly outdated?
I know the GPU will be good for a while but the budget build I made years ago is so horribly outdated that I want to plan better this time...

My In Progress Build

[Ankerson]

3 minutes ago, natashablong said:

Great! Do you think that the Gigabyte Z490 Elite is a good quality Motherboard that won't be too quickly outdated?
I know the GPU will be good for a while but the budget build I made years ago is so horribly outdated that I want to plan better this time...

My In Progress Build

 

I recommend to look at MB reviews before buying anything MB wise....

 

 

[Shimejii]

5 minutes ago, natashablong said:

Great! Do you think that the Gigabyte Z490 Elite is a good quality option for the build then?

My In Progress Build

Based on a few things ive seen from GamersNexus and Hardware Unboxed, The z490 Aorus Elite will work Just fine

 

Two things to mention. You dont need 3600 mhz Memory for that cpu, you arent going to notice the difference. 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel Core i7-10700K 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor	$393.89 @ B&H
CPU Cooler	be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler	$86.10
Motherboard	Gigabyte Z490 AORUS ELITE ATX LGA1200 Motherboard	$179.99 @ Amazon
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	$104.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Sabrent Rocket Q 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$119.98 @ Amazon
Case	Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case	$98.98 @ B&H
Power Supply	EVGA 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	Purchased For $0.00
Operating System	Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit	Purchased For $0.00
Keyboard	Razer BlackWidow Elite RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard	Purchased For $0.00
Mouse	Razer Taipan Wired Laser Mouse	Purchased For $0.00
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$983.93
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-09-03 19:55 EDT-0400

 Reccomend this If you wanted around the same price. You could also go with 16 GB if you wanted

 

Also that NVME drive you listed is kind of expensive for what youll actually need!

[GDRRiley]

wait for zen3/ryzen 4000. a r7 or r9 will smoke the 10700k

Edited September 4, 2020 by GDRRiley

[Shimejii]

2 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

wait for zen4. a r7 or r9 will smoke the 10700k

They really wont. You are just being too optimistic and its not very helpful, and its not even going to be out for nearly 3 months if you mean Ryzen 4000, Zen 4 isnt even on the radar  

[GDRRiley]

Just now, Shimejii said:

They really wont. You are just being too optimistic and its not very helpful, and its not even going to be out for nearly 3 months if you mean Ryzen 4000, Zen 4 isnt even on the radar  

ryzen 4000. sorry my brain failed. forgot thats zen3

 

3080 won't really be in stock till Q1 anyways, zen will be sooner. and waiting for RDNA2 is important.

[BIOSphereXx]

Thanks for the suggestions Shimejii.

I heard that people like to swipe up all the stock, is it not possible to get on a pre-order or something?

Should I not even bother purchasing parts yet then?

I am willing to wait for a better CPU, if it is going to be around the same price, and I won't have a GPU in hands yet...

[Shimejii]

35 minutes ago, natashablong said:

Thanks for the suggestions Shimejii.

I heard that people like to swipe up all the stock, is it not possible to get on a pre-order or something?

Should I not even bother purchasing parts yet then?

I am willing to wait for a better CPU, if it is going to be around the same price, and I won't have a GPU in hands yet...

GPU is honestly gonna be a bitch to get for the month of launch, you could wait a bit but intel isnt releasing any new cpus for at least 4-5 months. AMDs 4000 series is coming out(not the current APUS) and it should get closer to intel for performance but wont match it yet. Its just when you can find them available

[BTGbullseye]

7 hours ago, natashablong said:

Since I have not purchased a motherboard yet, I may as well get one with PCIE 4.0.

Intel CPUs do not support PCIe 4.0 at all. Their mobile chips are the first ones to do so, and you can't put them in a desktop.

 

If you want an upgrade path, and PCIe 4.0 now, AMD Ryzen 3600 or better on a B550 or X570 motherboard is your only option. Ryzen 4000 is looking to be good enough that it'll beat the next gen of Intel chips in every way, (instead of losing only in gaming, and only by about 5% at worst) and it'll be out sooner too.

[BIOSphereXx]

10 hours ago, BTGbullseye said:

If you want an upgrade path, and PCIe 4.0 now, AMD Ryzen 3600 or better on a B550 or X570 motherboard is your only option.

I looked into the laptop 4000 series and they appear to be easily outperforming Intel so I would not be surprised if they are better in desktop as well.

The question is if the CPU able to perform better than the 10700k while remaining in the same price range.

I just don't want to buy a CPU then sell it in a few months when the 4,000 series comes out.

[cried22]

10 hours ago, BTGbullseye said:

Intel CPUs do not support PCIe 4.0 at all. Their mobile chips are the first ones to do so, and you can't put them in a desktop.

 

If you want an upgrade path, and PCIe 4.0 now, AMD Ryzen 3600 or better on a B550 or X570 motherboard is your only option. Ryzen 4000 is looking to be good enough that it'll beat the next gen of Intel chips in every way, (instead of losing only in gaming, and only by about 5% at worst) and it'll be out sooner too.

The z490 boards support PCIe 4.0, but the CPU's don't. It is safe to get a 10700k, then replace with a 4.0 supported CPU when they come out, as it will slot into the z490 board.

[BTGbullseye]

8 hours ago, natashablong said:

I looked into the laptop 4000 series and they appear to be easily outperforming Intel so I would not be surprised if they are better in desktop as well.

The question is if the CPU able to perform better than the 10700k while remaining in the same price range.

I just don't want to buy a CPU then sell it in a few months when the 4,000 series comes out.

Currently, only in gaming, no the AMD processors won't beat a 10700k. In everything else they will. However, for sufficiently similar performance, you're looking at saving about $200 going AMD, if you're willing to sacrifice ~3% performance when gaming above 120FPS.

7 hours ago, cried22 said:

The z490 boards support PCIe 4.0, but the CPU's don't. It is safe to get a 10700k, then replace with a 4.0 supported CPU when they come out, as it will slot into the z490 board.

The Z490 boards may not be compatible with the next gen of Intel processors. The motherboard manufacturers hoped for Intel to do 4.0, but Intel didn't. Marketing left the "support" on there, even though it's unlikely to ever be able to use that support.

[BIOSphereXx]

So if I went with the (3600X or 3700X) and the X750 then I will have a PCIE 4.0 supporting Motherboard and can upgrade to the 4000 series CPU if/when it is viable performance-wise. While I am a casual gamer, as a Software Engineer I use my computer more often for Coding, working, web-surfing and editing, so honestly I think the AMD build suits me better.

 

NVIDIA Vs AMD, Bottle-necking the 30 series?

AMD Build

Intel Build

[BTGbullseye]

3 hours ago, natashablong said:

So if I went with the (3600X or 3700X) and the X750 then I will have a PCIE 4.0 supporting Motherboard and can upgrade to the 4000 series CPU if/when it is viable performance-wise.

That is correct. It will also be significantly less expensive than an Intel build of equivalent non-gaming performance.