Which of these power supplies should I get? (Ion+) (RMx)

[Narfalls]

I am looking to get a new power supply and was wondering which I should get. Right now I have a RM550x with a OC'd 1060 and a OC'd 8600k. I am looking to get a more powerful GPU (Either a Used 1080Ti or a 2060 Super Strix) and do some overclocking on it, and while 550W is probably enough I feel going to 650 or maybe even 750 would be a little more efficient and give me some room to expand. I am currently looking at the Fractal Design Ion+660p or the RM650x 2018. I know they are two different efficiency's but they are around the same price ($150 USD.) I have heard that the 660p is manufactured my High Power which isn't "the best" but is still good, while the RM650x is manufactured by Channel Well which is one of the best. I was going to get a EVGA 650P2 but they just discontinued them and you cant find them anymore. If you have any more recommendations or any thoughts if I should look at higher wattage's or different models, please tell me.

 

Thanks. 

[VeganJoy]

dunno where you live but i just got a notification that the ion 760p went down to $130 an hour ago, thats on amazon US though. supposed to be a fine psu, and as i was looking at psus recently it was high on my list. ended up getting a titanium seasonic though lmao

[Maurice Janssen]

Hey,

 

https://www.newegg.com/enermax-80-plus-erf650awt-850w/p/1HU-0042-000R0?Item=1HU-0042-000R0&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3a%2f%2fpcpartpicker.com%2fproduct%2fn34BD3%2fenermax-revolution-df-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-erf650awt&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-vfKwKbC0aXZBxzcVkbnYfg

The max wattage with this is a bit high but will do fine, especially for price a great deal.

 

[Narfalls]

25 minutes ago, Maurice from Madagascar said:

Hey,

 

https://www.newegg.com/enermax-80-plus-erf650awt-850w/p/1HU-0042-000R0?Item=1HU-0042-000R0&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3a%2f%2fpcpartpicker.com%2fproduct%2fn34BD3%2fenermax-revolution-df-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-erf650awt&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-vfKwKbC0aXZBxzcVkbnYfg

The max wattage with this is a bit high but will do fine, especially for price a great deal.

 

Seems good but can't find any reviews from toms hardware or jonnyguru though.

[Narfalls]

36 minutes ago, VeganJoy said:

dunno where you live but i just got a notification that the ion 760p went down to $130 an hour ago, thats on amazon US though. supposed to be a fine psu, and as i was looking at psus recently it was high on my list. ended up getting a titanium seasonic though lmao

USA, 650W is on newegg for $119

[MrBrightSyde]

2 hours ago, Narfalls said:

Seems good but can't find any reviews from toms hardware or jonnyguru though.

The Enermax Revolution DF uses the same platform as the bequiet! Whisper M and Deepcool DQ-M, which do have reviews from Aris and jonnyGURU, but of course, it's not the same. You could use the reviews the Revolution DF has, all you have to do is translate the page (one-click if on Chrome).

Enermax is more known in the European market than the US market though.

 

Also, you could just use the RM550x that you have. An OC'd 1080Ti would only draw about 300-350w under full load IIRC (depends on OC) and an OC'd 8600k (5Ghz @ 1.4V) would consume, at most, 150w under full load. It's unrealistic for both the GPU and CPU to be under full load at the same time unless you are doing something like folding@home. If you are mostly gaming, you shouldn't see more than 400w being drawn from your PSU.

 

If you really want to change the PSU, I would get the 660w Ion+ personally, since it's slightly cheaper ($5-10 I think) and saves a little more money on the electric bill (how much depends on how long the PC is powered on daily, what loads it's under, and cost of electricity per kWh in your area)

[Narfalls]

19 minutes ago, MrBrightSyde said:

The Enermax Revolution DF uses the same platform as the bequiet! Whisper M and Deepcool DQ-M, which do have reviews from Aris and jonnyGURU, but of course, it's not the same. You could use the reviews the Revolution DF has, all you have to do is translate the page (one-click if on Chrome).

Enermax is more known in the European market than the US market though.

 

Also, you could just use the RM550x that you have. An OC'd 1080Ti would only draw about 300-350w under full load IIRC (depends on OC) and an OC'd 8600k (5Ghz @ 1.4V) would consume, at most, 150w under full load. It's unrealistic for both the GPU and CPU to be under full load at the same time unless you are doing something like folding@home. If you are mostly gaming, you shouldn't see more than 400w being drawn from your PSU.

 

If you really want to change the PSU, I would get the 660w Ion+ personally, since it's slightly cheaper ($5-10 I think) and saves a little more money on the electric bill (how much depends on how long the PC is powered on daily, what loads it's under, and cost of electricity per kWh in your area)

Ok Thanks. Any idea to where I can get cables for the Fractal unit?

[MrBrightSyde]

2 minutes ago, Narfalls said:

Ok Thanks. Any idea to where I can get cables for the Fractal unit?

I don't know what the pinouts are for the Ion+, but I think they use a different pinout from Corsair and Seasonic.

 

I know you can get custom cables from @CableMod. And since I pinged them, do you guys know what pinout the Fractal Design Ion+ Platinum uses and what cables are compatible if there are any?

[Narfalls]

2 minutes ago, MrBrightSyde said:

I don't know what the pinouts are for the Ion+, but I think they use a different pinout from Corsair and Seasonic.

 

I know you can get custom cables from @CableMod. And since I pinged them, do you guys know what pinout the Fractal Design Ion+ Platinum uses and what cables are compatible if there are any?

Just checked and I think that they make custom cable replacements for it.

[Maurice Janssen]

7 hours ago, Narfalls said:

Seems good but can't find any reviews from toms hardware or jonnyguru though.

We linked reviews for most psus in the spreadsheet attached to the psu tier list 14.3 thread, just look at some about the CWT GPU platforms that someone mentioned ealier. Whisper M, DQ-M v1 & Revolution D.F.     Pretty much my favorite recommendation due to its price and great performance 

[VeganJoy]

4 hours ago, _DeXTeR_ said:

https://www.newegg.com/seasonic-focus-plus-750-gold-ssr-750fx-750w/p/N82E16817151187

Buy this and you will be more then happy

rip prices, 140+tax for a gold seasonic

[Narfalls]

5 hours ago, _DeXTeR_ said:

https://www.newegg.com/seasonic-focus-plus-750-gold-ssr-750fx-750w/p/N82E16817151187

Buy this and you will be more then happy

how would it make me more happy? The ion+ is $119

[Narfalls]

7 hours ago, Maurice from Madagascar said:

We linked reviews for most psus in the spreadsheet attached to the psu tier list 14.3 thread, just look at some about the CWT GPU platforms that someone mentioned ealier. Whisper M, DQ-M v1 & Revolution D.F.     Pretty much my favorite recommendation due to its price and great performance 

I also noticed that the DF Unit is multi rail and preferably I want single rail or switchable. BUT I do like that it is made by CWT but it also impossible to get custom cables which is what I wanted.

[seon123]

8 hours ago, _DeXTeR_ said:

https://www.newegg.com/seasonic-focus-plus-750-gold-ssr-750fx-750w/p/N82E16817151187

Buy this and you will be more then happy

Unless they have a pair of functioning ears, in which case the crappy fan will annoy them.

[Maurice Janssen]

4 hours ago, Narfalls said:

I also noticed that the DF Unit is multi rail and preferably I want single rail or switchable. BUT I do like that it is made by CWT but it also impossible to get custom cables which is what I wanted.

can you reason your choice for single instead of multi rail?

[LienusLateTips]

4 hours ago, Narfalls said:

I also noticed that the DF Unit is multi rail and preferably I want single rail or switchable. BUT I do like that it is made by CWT but it also impossible to get custom cables which is what I wanted.

Why would you prefer single rail? Single rails are less safe than multi rail units, and most of the multi rail issues of past are long gone.

[Uberwolf]

Why are you still saying, "anything except focus", I thought SS had fixed the issues. On other forums ppl say they are great because SS make their own etc, the mind boggles.

[Narfalls]

5 hours ago, Maurice from Madagascar said:

can you reason your choice for single instead of multi rail?

I have heard that there can be issues with power draw on gpu's

[Narfalls]

3 hours ago, Uberwolf said:

Why are you still saying, "anything except focus", I thought SS had fixed the issues. On other forums ppl say they are great because SS make their own etc, the mind boggles.

I never said that?

[MrBrightSyde]

9 minutes ago, Narfalls said:

I never said that?

He forgot to quote seon123

[Narfalls]

I am still kind of stuck on which one to get. I like the Fractal one and haven't heard anything bad about them but they also are not that common either. I fully trust Corsair because I use one in my computer right now. The Fractal unit is $10 cheaper and is platinum rated but custom cables are more expensive than corsair. I trust both of these brands but I still don't know the definitive answer. I am leaning towards the fractal unit. If you have anything to say about the Fractal or Corsair unit, PLEASE tell me

Thanks

[seon123]

49 minutes ago, MrBrightSyde said:

He forgot to quote seon123

I never said "anything except Focus"...? The Focus is fine, other than the issues with high transient GPUs, the crappy fan, lack of multi rail OCP on 12V, Seasonic's QC issues, and basically lying about all of their PSUs' temperature ratings.

[CableMod]

On 8/9/2020 at 11:22 PM, Narfalls said:

Just checked and I think that they make custom cable replacements for it.

@Narfalls @MrBrightSyde yep - we offer cables for Fractals Ion units through our configurator page actually.

https://store.cablemod.com/configurator/

[MrBrightSyde]

1 minute ago, CableMod said:

@Narfalls @MrBrightSyde yep - we offer cables for Fractals Ion units through our configurator page actually.

https://store.cablemod.com/configurator/

Nice. So I'm guessing the cables that Fractal Ion+ uses are proprietary and can't be used with other modular PSUs?

[Maurice Janssen]

13 hours ago, Narfalls said:

I have heard that there can be issues with power draw on gpu's

the 650w has 2 rails dedicated for gpu cables. both have a max capacity of 30a, means 360w. just use one cable on each rail and you'll have no problem what so ever even if using 2 8 pin connectors of one rail.