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Which of these three MSI board should I pick for R5 3600?

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2 minutes ago, CeveLairy said:

Okay, I'll send order that one. Just out of curiosity tho, what makes it better than Bazooka Max Wifi?

The Bazooka has a worse VRM, iirc it's the same as on the B450M-PRO VDH. Basically, if you've got no direct airflow onto the VRM heatsinks, I'd put a stock 3900X into the Mortar but I'd only put a 3700X into the Bazooka.

The Mortar also has two M.2 slots as opposed to just one, and other than that it's probably just minor differences, like different rear IO or whatever.

I have upgraded to Ryzen 5 3600 / 1660 Super and unsure which B450 board to go for.

Due to location, availability of stock, out of the box Ryzen 3000 support, I'm down to these choices. 

 

B450m Pro M2 Max - Php 5,900.00 (120$)
B450m Mortar Max - Php 6,500.00 (132$)

B450m Bazooka Max Wifi - Php 6,300.00 (128$)

B550 boards are crazy expensive 120$~240$, so nope.
I'm stuck with 3rd gen ready b450 boards, most retailers can't flash bios.
I'm also stuck with MSI brand because other boards are *BUNDLE ONLY*... bundles are more expensive, and often come only with R5 2600.

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Mortar out of those three. What are the cheapest B550s you can get?

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i mean the mortar is the best, the bazooka is decent and the m2 is horrendous. 

either the bazooka or the mortar. 

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Are you limited to these? A B550 board is WORLDS better.

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5 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

Mortar out of those three. What are the cheapest B550s you can get?

MSI MAG B550 MORTAR For 225$ The only board on stock that will ship to my location. 

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7 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Are you limited to these? A B550 board is WORLDS better.

Yes, Most retailers with B550 stocks do not ship to my location, and if they offer shipping the cost is almost double the b450 ones. 

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14 minutes ago, CeveLairy said:

MSI MAG B550 MORTAR For 225$ The only board on stock that will ship to my location. 

You said B550 boards range from $120 to $240 for you locally. Is that the cheapest you can get?

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3 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

You said B550 boards range from $120 to $240. Is that the cheapest you can get?

Oh, sorry. That was a typo, I meant 150$, Gigabyte GA-B550M-AORUS-ELITE. Cheapest, yes. But I can't get it as they do not ship to my location.
The cheapest B550, that will ship to my location is MSI MAG B550 MORTAR for 225$

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Mortar then, 3rd gen is efficient so better boards arent a must.

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37 minutes ago, CeveLairy said:

Oh, sorry. That was a typo, I meant 150$, Gigabyte GA-B550M-AORUS-ELITE. Cheapest, yes. But I can't get it as they do not ship to my location.
The cheapest B550, that will ship to my location is MSI MAG B550 MORTAR for 225$

Oh, in that case go with the B450 Mortar.

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16 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

Oh, in that case go with the B450 Mortar.

Okay, I'll send order that one. Just out of curiosity tho, what makes it better than Bazooka Max Wifi?

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6 minutes ago, CeveLairy said:

Okay, I'll send order that one. Just out of curiosity tho, what makes it better than Bazooka Max Wifi?

Better heatsink, overall more features (faster USB ports and extra fan header for example)

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2 minutes ago, CeveLairy said:

Okay, I'll send order that one. Just out of curiosity tho, what makes it better than Bazooka Max Wifi?

The Bazooka has a worse VRM, iirc it's the same as on the B450M-PRO VDH. Basically, if you've got no direct airflow onto the VRM heatsinks, I'd put a stock 3900X into the Mortar but I'd only put a 3700X into the Bazooka.

The Mortar also has two M.2 slots as opposed to just one, and other than that it's probably just minor differences, like different rear IO or whatever.

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Laptop: 2018 Apple MacBook Pro 13"  --  i5-8259U | 8GB LPDDR3 | 512GB NVMe

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I think B450 is pretty enough if you are not upgrading to the next generation of Ryzen.

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