From i5 3450 to R5 3600, how big of a difference?

[Jakers038]

First of all, I'm from East Europe and my monthly salary is maybe one fifth of what people in the west make, so with what I have, the 3600 is the top of what I can afford (and chances of finding a older gen, but stronger cpu are slim, but if there's a decent widely available alternative with a similar or maybe even higher performance (so not a rare I7 3920, Xeon and such hard finds) in the 1st or 2nd Ryzen gen or from the opposing team, I'm open to suggestions, though I think that the 3600 is hard to beat for that budget)

 

I am planning on getting a used 1080Ti, so I guess that my current I5 3450 isn't really a match for it, so I am going to replace the CPU as well and as I said, the 3600 is the top of my budget and it doesn't look bad, from what I've seen it's comparable to an I7 7700K, which I know is light years ahead of my current I5 3450 and I think it might keep me satisfied for 5 years at least, plus it has more cores and threads, which will benefit me when I edit videos from time to time and so on.

 

However here's what's bothering me, while Passmark gives my older I5 a score of around 4 thousand and the 3600 a score of seventeen thousand, which is a HUGE difference, the site Userbenchmark somehow gives the 3600 only an effective speed advantage of "18%" and my cpu has a "71% gaming" score and the 3600 has a "85% gaming" score and I am sure something is seriously flawed with that bench, since those results are pathetic to say the least and would mean that where I get 60 FPS now with a 8 year old 4 core, 4T,, 22nm, I'd get only 70FPS with a barely year old 3600 6 core, 12T, 7nm monster in comparison, which makes no sense at all... ( the comparison https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-3600-vs-Intel-Core-i5-3450/4040vsm161 )

 

 

 

 

[Mateyyy]

The 3600 is closer to an 8700K, while the 3300X is closer to a 7700K. Don't use Userbenchmark, it's horribly misleading.

 

Your 3450 will struggle with a 1080Ti badly, like really badly, depending on what games you play.

The 3600 would be a massive upgrade.

[SavageNeo]

do not use usershitmark. Passmark is right about the performance. you get much better singel thread performance= much better performancei n gmaes. also you get about 4-6 times better multicore performance for editing/worklaods etc

[Jakers038]

Then I'm getting the 3600, what other hardware do I need to upgrade for it? I currently have an Intel board and a ddr3 ram, so I know that I need to upgrade those two, but is that it or do I need to upgrade something else as well?

 

I do plan on later also getting the GPU I mentioned, a new case, a new 1TB HDD for storage and maybe a newer monitor, though I don't think any of those matter for the CPU ugrade itself.

 

As for the motherboard, I found these two, a Gigabyte AM4 GA-A320M-H and a a bit more expensive ASRock AM4 B450M-HDV R4.0, would both of these work or only one of them and would matter whether I get the 3600 or 3600x for them? (since the price difference is only 10 dollars)

 

Lastly, would these two be a good RAM match? DIMM DDR4 16GB 2666MHz GeIL CL19, and DIMM DDR4 16GB 3200MHz Kingston HyperX Fury (also a bit more expensive, but not sure if worth it)

[Haro]

4 minutes ago, Jakers038 said:

what other hardware do I need to upgrade for it?

The ram and the board. 

 

4 minutes ago, Jakers038 said:

would both of these work

Both of these are terrible sadly.

As for the board. 

For b450.  

Pro 4. 

Pro vdh max. 

A pro max (non m). 

Tomahawk max. 

Mortar max. 

As for b550. 

A pro. 

Vdh. 

Tomahawk. 

Mortar. 

Aorus pro. 

Strix f. 

Steel legend. These are all good but obviously some are more expensive. 

 

5 minutes ago, Jakers038 said:

Lastly, would these two be a good RAM match

Technically yes but both will be set to 2666. 

Getting a kit is preferred though.

A 3600 cl16 or a 3200 cl14/16 would work nicely. 

[Jakers038]

What makes them terrible? I won't overclock and I'm satisfied even with the lowest RAM speed, since even that will be several times better than what I have now, so is that the main issue with them or something else as well? They seem to have more connectors, usb's, Sata's,etc. than I'd even use, so as long as they can give me the full potential of non-OC cpu's (or almost, due to the 2666) and not stutter or whatever, I'm fine with them.

[Haro]

2 minutes ago, Jakers038 said:

What makes them terrible?

Bad mosfets. No heat sinks. It won't power a 6 core sadly. 

 

2 minutes ago, Jakers038 said:

won't overclock and I'm satisfied even with the lowest RAM speed,

Well getting a 3600 kit doesn't mean you have to overclock it. You just enable xmp. 

Also ryzen benifits a fair bit from faster ram because there are multiple ccxs resulting in latency. 

3 minutes ago, Jakers038 said:

I'm fine with them

Sadly they won't be able to power a 6 core as said above. 

All the boards I listed above are more than fine. 

A pro 4 goes for cheap usually (around 80osj bucks). And that's a great board. 

[Jakers038]

This one is a pro 4 I guess, so would this one be good? https://www.emmi.rs/racunari-komponente/racunarske-komponente/maticne-ploce-mb/as-rock-am4-b450-pro4-hdmi-display-port-d-sub.html

 

Also, do I need to set anything up, BIOS, RAM speeds or whatever, or do I just put everything together and turn it on?

[Haro]

5 minutes ago, Jakers038 said:

so would this one be good

Yep. 

 

5 minutes ago, Jakers038 said:

BIOS, RAM speeds or whatever, or do I just put everything together and turn it on?

You can do that. Just turn xmp/docp so you can run the ram at it's advertised speeds. 

[Jakers038]

Thank you very much, you probably saved me from hundreds of dollars of damage I'd do on my own.

 

Anyway I already own a WMR VR set, so I guess that this combo of the Ryzen 3600 and a 1080Ti would be amazing in comparison with what I have now with the old I5 and a RX 470 4gb and 8gb ddr3 RAM, can't wait to test it out.