2060, 2070, or 2070 Super?

[VestiaryFlea867]

For an under $1500 build, which one should I get? It will be paired with a 3700X. I don't want to utilize the full $1500, since the PC will be a gift to me (i do not want to waste other people's money). The PC will be used for "heavy" gaming, video and photo editing, and music creation. The resolution I wanted to game at is 1080 or 1440 at 60FPS. I originally wanted the 2070S for the performance, but I had second thoughts about the ~500 price tag (AMD is a good value, but I would like ray tracing).
Could a monitor also be recommended for the GPU that is best?

[Mateyyy]

Does the $1500 budget also include the monitor?

Also, I assume that if the build's going to be a gift for you, waiting a couple more months for Ampere and RDNA2 GPUs to launch isn't an option, right?

[eeeee1]

2070 Super i believe is a really good choice but if you won't be playing RTX Minecraft or Metro, a 2060 or 70 will be perfectly fine. 

[VestiaryFlea867]

1 minute ago, Mateyyy said:

Does the $1500 budget also include the monitor?

Also, I assume that if the build's going to be a gift for you, waiting a couple more months for Ampere and RDNA2 GPUs to launch isn't an option, right?

No, I will probably buy the monitor myself. Preferably it should be under $300. I would wait, but i'm operating off of a Core 2 Quad right now.

[VestiaryFlea867]

3 minutes ago, eeeee1 said:

2070 Super i believe is a really good choice but if you won't be playing RTX Minecraft or Metro, a 2060 or 70 will be perfectly fine. 

I'll probably get RTX Minecraft, Starfield/TESVI (when they finally come out), whatever the new Battlefield will be, ultra-modded Bethesda games (that's what inspired me to get a PC, my Xbox kept crashing playing no-mod Fallout 4), and other assorted games. I would like the GPU to focus on open-world games, with "super-duper" settings with RTX on. In non-competitive titles, FPS is less of a priority over things looking good, but it can't be less than 30-50FPS. The card must also be better than the new Xbox.
What is the performance between the 2070 and 2070S?

[-rascal-]

The RTX non-Super has been succeeded by the RTX Super line-up, essentially.

You'd want to get a Super variant, so RTX 2060 Super / RTX 2060 KO (EVGA exclusive) / RTX 2070 Super.

 

Are you limited to nVidia RTX cards?

Would you consider AMD RX 5000-series or RX-500 series line-up?

 

Because...in the same $400+ price bracket, you get a RTX 2060 Super, but you get close to RTX 2070 Super performance with a RX 5700 XT. 

[Mateyyy]

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$279.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler	be quiet! Dark Rock 4 CPU Cooler	$74.90 @ Amazon
Motherboard	MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard	$144.99 @ B&H
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory	$77.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Silicon Power A80 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$129.99 @ Amazon
Video Card	NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB Video Card	$399.99 @ Best Buy
Case	Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case	$59.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	be quiet! Straight Power 11 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$109.90 @ B&H
Case Fan	be quiet! SilentWings 3 PWM High-Speed 77.57 CFM 140 mm Fan	$22.89 @ Amazon
Case Fan	be quiet! SilentWings 3 PWM High-Speed 77.57 CFM 140 mm Fan	$22.89 @ Amazon
Monitor	Asus TUF GAMING VG249Q 23.8" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor	$249.00 @ B&H
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1572.52
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-29 17:05 EDT-0400

A little over $1500 with the monitor included.

[eeeee1]

2 minutes ago, VestiaryFlea867 said:

I'll probably get RTX Minecraft, Starfield/TESVI (when they finally come out), whatever the new Battlefield will be, ultra-modded Bethesda games (that's what inspired me to get a PC, my Xbox kept crashing playing no-mod Fallout 4), and other assorted games. I would like the GPU to focus on open-world games, with "super-duper" settings with RTX on. In non-competitive titles, FPS is less of a priority over things looking good, but it can't be less than 30-50FPS. The card must also be better than the new Xbox.
What is the performance between the 2070 and 2070S?

to my knowledge, i think a 2070 super is pretty close to a 2080

[VestiaryFlea867]

2 minutes ago, -rascal- said:

The RTX non-Super has been succeeded by the RTX Super line-up, essentially.

You'd want to get a Super variant, so RTX 2060 Super / RTX 2060 KO (EVGA exclusive) / RTX 2070 Super.

 

Are you limited to nVidia RTX cards?

Would you consider AMD RX 5000-series or RX-500 series line-up?

 

Because...in the same $400+ price bracket, you get a RTX 2060 Super, but you get close to RTX 2070 Super performance with a RX 5700 XT. 

The AMD cards are a very good value, but I would like RTX, and little driver issues. (i'm a little of an Nvidia fanboy too)

 

1 minute ago, Mateyyy said:

 

Video Card	NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB Video Card	$399.99 @ Best Buy

Aren't 2070's also $400? (at least at my area). I'd rather get a 2070. BTW I already had parts picked out.

[Mateyyy]

5 minutes ago, VestiaryFlea867 said:

Aren't 2070's also $400? (at least at my area). I'd rather get a 2070. BTW I already had parts picked out.

I mean, if you can get a 2070 for the same price, sure. It's like 5% faster or something like that on average.

Oh.

[dizmo]

I'd strongly suggest waiting for the 3060. It'll have substantially better RTX performance. If you can add in your own money so you don't feel guilty, the 3070 would also be a superb choice.

[VestiaryFlea867]

11 minutes ago, dizmo said:

I'd strongly suggest waiting for the 3060. It'll have substantially better RTX performance. If you can add in your own money so you don't feel guilty, the 3070 would also be a superb choice.

I *would* but this is an "emergency" PC. I as thinking to buy the GPU last and put in my own money and use a used GPU or one I already have in the meantime.

[-rascal-]

The 'Super' variants are 10% faster?

It seems like nVidia improved their GPU wafer process, and now call it the RTX 'Super.'

 

I'm seeing the cheapest RTX 2070 Super being $499...

[VestiaryFlea867]

10 minutes ago, -rascal- said:

The 'Super' variants are 10% faster?

It seems like nVidia improved their GPU wafer process, and now call it the RTX 'Super.'

 

I'm seeing the cheapest RTX 2070 Super being $499...

Is 10% worth $100 over a regular 2070?