HDR eye strain Plese help

[Kriz]

Hi

 

It's been along time since I last posted here. I recently replaced my dual monitor setup (horizontal 32'' 110 Hz monitor and vertical 24'' 60 Hz monitor 1440p and 1080p in the same order) to a single 55'' LG OLED B9. At firs I was blown away. I wanted this very thing for years (great response time, perfect black, HDR) and I wasn't disappointed opposite actually. This display exceeded my expectation by a lot. However a few days in I started to have a sore eye (yes single eye). During a late night gaming session the pain grew stornger and later both my eyes were hurting like crazy. I thaught to myself (some aditional lighting would help) well it didn't. I tried moving my TV further (I already sit 1,2 meters away from the display), and playing with my lights on witch I never did. Nothing helped. Now twoe week since I got this panel my eyes hurt constantly to the point I can no longer work with computers. Up to this point I have spend 10 to 12 hours in fornt of displays for wokr and entertainment and I have zero issues with eyes. It's so infuriating that the moment I have my dream display I can't use it cause of my eyes. Does any of you experienced something like that before ? Is there anything I can do to alleviate this eye strain ? I already tried lowering the brightnes but at some point it looks wore than my previous displays. I'm running out of options and I can no longer return this TV. If anyone has any ideas I'm all ears.

 

Thanks in advance.

[Bombastinator]

Not gonna want to hear this:  get a vision test.  
 

one eye hurting usually means that one eye is having to do more muscle work trying to focus than the other.  Can mean vision is going.  Could be some spectacles in your future.  Happens to everyone. 

[TheBean]

are you in a dark room/at night? you could try using the blue light reduction built into windows. I find that it helps SIGNIFICANTLY. I have set it up on a cycle so that when its night/room is dark, it turns on so that it reduces eye strain. also, avoid using screen when you are tired. it could just be that you need sleep but you are forcing yourself to see a bright screen. turn off/reduce HDR if you can. 

 

you could also just need glasses for reading and you didn't realize. might want to go to a doctor to get a check-up. if you have the option, do the retinal scan (usually costs like $30 extra in the US). The retinal scan checks for any damage inside your eye. 

 

Edit: you might not have realized you need glasses if you only need them for reading/computer. if in your daily life (distance prescription), everything seems clear, you might just need it for reading/computer. GET A CHECK UP. your eyes are incredibly important. 

Edited July 25, 2020 by Saksham

[CommanderAlex]

8 minutes ago, Kriz said:

I tried moving my TV further (I already sit 1,2 meters away from the display),

Wait for the American folks, you're sitting 3.9 FEET away from a 55" TV...are you JOKING??!? That is WAYY too close to be using a TV. 

[Bombastinator]

3 minutes ago, CommanderAlex said:

Wait for the American folks, you're sitting 3.9 FEET away from a 55" TV...are you JOKING??!? That is WAYY too close to be using a TV. 

Theres an LTT video on this subject

 

[Kriz]

As I said I have no prior eye related problems and I have perfect 20/20 vision. I have sharp eye sight regardless of distance and prior to my upgrad I had absolutely no issues sitting all day in front of multiple monitors. Checkup cant hurt however. If only my Man Cave was a little bigger I could afford a desk setup with multi monitor like I'm uesd to and a couch and TV setup for gaming/movie watching.

 

As for the distance after using two relatively big displays I thaught the leap to 55'' inch would be that bad. I wanted to buy 48'' OLED but I just could't wait any longer.

[Bombastinator]

8 minutes ago, Kriz said:

As I said I have no prior eye related problems and I have perfect 20/20 vision. I have sharp eye sight regardless of distance and prior to my upgrad I had absolutely no issues sitting all day in front of multiple monitors. Checkup cant hurt however. If only my Man Cave was a little bigger I could afford a desk setup with multi monitor like I'm uesd to and a couch and TV setup for gaming/movie watching.

 

As for the distance after using two relatively big displays I thaught the leap to 55'' inch would be that bad. I wanted to buy 48'' OLED but I just could't wait any longer.

I did say you wouldn’t like it..  I thought I did too in high school but my vision was so bad I was memorizing what people were wearing in the morning so I could identify them by color blobs.  I was doing that and still thinking my vision was fine at the same time.  It very could well be the light thing too.  I was just reacting to the one eye difference thing.  For some reason whatever is happening was uneven.  Home lighting can be uneven too.  

Edited July 25, 2020 by Bombastinator

[xg32]

don't be afraid to turn down the brightness even if u have an hdr display running in hdr, i dont use the default setting at all (50%), i run games at 20-25%, 10% at night, and 30% only in movies, shows.I just have 5% extra gamma in the control panel to compensate.

[PineyCreek]

Pfft...yeah, even if I use f.lux, I had to manually turn down the brightness on my monitor that I got several years ago.  Felt like a laser was going to the back of my skull.

 

Also, I second that recommendation for a visit to the eye doctor, for a variety of reasons.

 

I've also got a 46" LCD TV that's more than a decade old (so way less bright than modern equivalents) and I still can't be any closer to it than 2.5-3 meters away without discomfort.

[Kriz]

I have rolled back to my previous setup. Oh well I guess my father's gonna recive an early Christmas gift. As for my eyes it's seams I'm experiencing over exposure to light just like wealding accident. My right eye was always more sensitive to light than left so I guess it make sense that it woule be the eye to suffer first. My sister is a doctor (well tehnically we are both doctors Ian PhD and she is MD) and she gave me some eye drops and they work reasonably well. If those sympthoms don't go away in a few days I will visit a spectialist.

 

Moral of the story. If you think you can handle HDR at this proximity to the screen than good luck to you.

 

Thaks for all of your advices.

[jones177]

I use an HDR TV as a monitor and HDR is only on when there is HDR content is on screen.

HDR movies and games don't bother me at all but Windows in HDR is too intense.

 

 

[Kriz]

From my experience HDR movies use HDR properly. Most of the time you see lumininocity simular to SDR with occasional brighter scenes and very bright highlights. Games however (I tested RE 3) blast way too much light all the time. As for desktop don't get me started. Hopefull my eyes will recover in a day or two. Still what a pitty that I can't get OLED in a sub 48'' size. Honestly 32" is ok for a monitor and I won't try anything bigger for a while.

[britinspain]

I have the same problem.  I bought a new laptop with HDR summer of 2019 and then I started to get the odd migraine and occular migraines which I had never had in all my life.  I have had blood tests, mri and eye tests and all are fine.  Now I can barely look at a pc for any length of time without it hurting my eyes.  And when I do gaming the next day I get an occular migraine (zigzags across the eye).  I am currently using my old laptop to teamview to my new laptop to work as an experiment and it is feeling a little easier on my eyes.  Could HDR really be the cause?  Does anyone thing refresh rate could be a cause.  My new laptop is 144 hz.  I read 120 hz is optimum.  Old laptop is 60 hz.  Any ideas greatly appreciated.

[Yous]

On 1/4/2021 at 1:28 PM, britinspain said:

I have the same problem.  I bought a new laptop with HDR summer of 2019 and then I started to get the odd migraine and occular migraines which I had never had in all my life.  I have had blood tests, mri and eye tests and all are fine.  Now I can barely look at a pc for any length of time without it hurting my eyes.  And when I do gaming the next day I get an occular migraine (zigzags across the eye).  I am currently using my old laptop to teamview to my new laptop to work as an experiment and it is feeling a little easier on my eyes.  Could HDR really be the cause?  Does anyone thing refresh rate could be a cause.  My new laptop is 144 hz.  I read 120 hz is optimum.  Old laptop is 60 hz.  Any ideas greatly appreciated.

Hi,

 

Just like to possibly help you out here.

 

I don't have a HDR screen, but I had an issue similar to yours. Turns out my eyes were extremely dry and after using top of the line eye drops to relieve symptoms of dry eyes, I've not had the issue occur again.

[britinspain]

On 1/5/2021 at 2:39 PM, Yous said:

Hi,

 

Just like to possibly help you out here.

 

I don't have a HDR screen, but I had an issue similar to yours. Turns out my eyes were extremely dry and after using top of the line eye drops to relieve symptoms of dry eyes, I've not had the issue occur again.

Thanks Yous, I never thought of this as they dont appear to be dry just achy but I am happy to try anything so I will get some and try.

 

[Yous]

21 minutes ago, britinspain said:

Thanks Yous, I never thought of this as they dont appear to be dry just achy but I am happy to try anything so I will get some and try.

 

No problem! Mine didn't feel dry either. After visiting a ophthalmologist, he said my eyes are extremely dry and recommended the eye drops I'm currently using. Be sure to get ones that are recommended for dry eyes.

[britinspain]

22 hours ago, Yous said:

No problem! Mine didn't feel dry either. After visiting a ophthalmologist, he said my eyes are extremely dry and recommended the eye drops I'm currently using. Be sure to get ones that are recommended for dry eyes.

Thank you.  I certainly will