Overclock ryzen 5 3600

[Logi Bear]

How much can you overclock a Ryzen 5 3600 ik overclocking ryzen isn't that good but I'm just wondering how far can you push the cpu? 

[gloop]

What motherboard? What voltage? What PSU?

[Haro]

Depends. 

Motherboard? Cooling? And every chip has different capabilities. 

[Mateyyy]

6GHz, easy. All you need is some liquid nitrogen.

[eeeee1]

Pulled this off of the ryzen 3rd gen overclocking video. Anthony shows safe and redline voltages and other little tweaks in the BIOS

[Logi Bear]

2 minutes ago, gloop said:

What motherboard? What voltage? What PSU?

Well I was just wondering how far one could go max haha but I have msi b450 tomahawk max and I have a coirsair rm750x 

[Logi Bear]

2 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

Depends. 

Motherboard? Cooling? And every chip has different capabilities. 

I have a msi tomohawk max and a arctic freezer 34 esports duo and mine already boosts all core to 4.2 when allowed to take as much power as it wants (ppt) 

[Haro]

Just now, Logi Bear said:

when allowed to take as much power as it wants (ppt) 

Well. I mean you can see how far you can go. It's a trial and error process. But ryzen doesn't have a big head room already and is pretty much maxed out, out of the box. 

Just enable pbo and that'll be fine I would say. 

[Jeppes]

New 3600:s can go to 4.4 .... 4.6GHz. You just have to test how lucky you got.

[Void Master]

The CPU already boosts aggressively near it's limits anyways, it's not worth your time.

And degradation sounds really spooky for me.......

I would check this video:

You can skip to 19:25

[ZeroStressLevel]

16 minutes ago, eeeee1 said:

Pulled this off of the ryzen 3rd gen overclocking video. Anthony shows safe and redline voltages and other little tweaks in the BIOS

1.35v is not safe for zen 2 in any strech.

[ZeroStressLevel]

It honestly depends on your silicon. My 3600 is doing 4.45 1.26v (I entered 1.268 in bios but bios and HWINFO is reporting 1.26 for whatever reason).

 

I think for static overclockes if you can manage 4.2 or higher all core without going higher than 1.268 volts you're golden. Mess around with LLC settings ect. I personally disabled cool n' quiet, global c states and core boost since I am doing a static all core OC.

 

EDIT: 4.45 at 1.268 isnt prime95 stable btw but it runs all of my games and programs fine so I deem it "stable". 4.425 on the otherhand is prime95 stable.

Edited July 15, 2020 by ZeroStressLevel

[spartaman64]

i got my 3600 to 4.4ghz on all cores at 1.325mhz i have a b450 tomahawk max also

[ZeroStressLevel]

Just now, spartaman64 said:

i got my 3600 to 4.4ghz on all cores at 1.325mhz i have a b450 tomahawk max also

Considering that we have ZEN 2 CPUs degrading at voltages higher than 1.28 I'd suggest chilling on the voltage.

[Mister Woof]

Why is Zen 2 so sensitive?

 

My 1600 has been running at just under 1.4v for a couple years without problems.

 

 

[spartaman64]

4 minutes ago, ZeroStressLevel said:

Considering that we have ZEN 2 CPUs degrading at voltages higher than 1.28 I'd suggest chilling on the voltage.

i cant imagine 0.025 volts doing that much more damage and an amd person said 1.3v is fine

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cbls9g/the_final_word_on_idle_voltages_for_3rd_gen_ryzen/

[ZeroStressLevel]

3 minutes ago, spartaman64 said:

i cant imagine 0.025 volts doing that much more damage and an amd person said 1.3v is fine

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cbls9g/the_final_word_on_idle_voltages_for_3rd_gen_ryzen/

You sent a reddit post about idle voltages " It is perfectly okay if your CPU is periodically using 1.4-1.5V to achieve boost frequencies, and you should see dips into sub-1.0V as the CPU goes into idle.". People have literally reported their CPUs either no longer being able to run their OC stable or STOCK stable after a few weeks - months. The lowest voltage I could find that degraded was 1.285 or whatever the increment is.

[Jeppes]

19 minutes ago, Void Master said:

The CPU already boosts aggressively near it's limits anyways, it's not worth your time.

And degradation sounds really spooky for me.......

I would check this video:

You can skip to 19:25

Thats a year old video. Now they are selling chips hitting 3900X MHz as 3600:s.

[Mateyyy]

22 minutes ago, Void Master said:

The CPU already boosts aggressively near it's limits anyways, it's not worth your time.

And degradation sounds really spooky for me.......

I would check this video:

You can skip to 19:25

By the time you get into voltages that will actually degrade your chip, you'll most likely already be running into thermal limitations.

Also, the 1.4-1.5V figures people are so scared of are at idle, when there's barely any current going through the CPU. Steve from Gamers Nexus also spoke about this recently in a stream I believe.

 

Regardless, for the vast majority of people, just enabling PBO is more beneficial than a manual overclocking would be on Zen 2.

Actually, you'd be much better off getting a nice Samsung B-die memory kit and hoping that you've won the silicon lottery so you can run 1866/1900MHz on the FCLK, because that would yield more performance than an overclock would provide on these CPUs.

[gloop]

23 minutes ago, ZeroStressLevel said:

Considering that we have ZEN 2 CPUs degrading at voltages higher than 1.28 I'd suggest chilling on the voltage.

Pretty sure you can go up to 1.325v fine, higher than that it starts degrading.

[spartaman64]

14 minutes ago, ZeroStressLevel said:

You sent a reddit post about idle voltages " It is perfectly okay if your CPU is periodically using 1.4-1.5V to achieve boost frequencies, and you should see dips into sub-1.0V as the CPU goes into idle.". People have literally reported their CPUs either no longer being able to run their OC stable or STOCK stable after a few weeks - months. The lowest voltage I could find that degraded was 1.285 or whatever the increment is.

"Load voltages of around 1.2-1.3V are perfectly okay also. This is the processor working as expected. Ryzen is a highly dynamic system" ive been running it stable for like 3 months now

[ZeroStressLevel]

Just now, spartaman64 said:

"Load voltages of around 1.2-1.3V are perfectly okay also. This is the processor working as expected. Ryzen is a highly dynamic system"

"1.2-1.3v" Either way staying below 1.275 is my view on the whole matter.

[spartaman64]

Just now, ZeroStressLevel said:

"1.2-1.3v" Either way staying below 1.275 is my view on the whole matter.

yeah and i dont think 0.025volts is going to make much of a difference lots of overclockers say that is the max voltage and are running their ryzens at that

[Logi Bear]

7 minutes ago, gloop said:

Pretty sure you can go up to 1.325v fine, higher than that it starts degrading.

Mine runs at 1.4v idle and then hits around the 1.2 with some change at 100% load at 69c to 70c. 

[Void Master]

29 minutes ago, Jeppes said:

Thats a year old video. Now they are selling chips hitting 3900X MHz as 3600:s.

LMFAO that's 6 days old.

28 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

By the time you get into voltages that will actually degrade your chip, you'll most likely already be running into thermal limitations.

Also, the 1.4-1.5V figures people are so scared of are at idle, when there's barely any current going through the CPU. Steve from Gamers Nexus also spoke about this recently in a stream I believe.

Correct, but you would need to hit these voltages in order to achieve any sensible gains with respect to PBO/normal PB.

28 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

Regardless, for the vast majority of people, just enabling PBO is more beneficial than a manual overclocking would be on Zen 2. You're much better off getting a nice Samsung B-die memory kit and hoping that you've won the silicon lottery so you can run 1866/1900MHz on the FCLK, because that would result in more extra performance than an overclock would provide on these CPUs.

100% agree, these CPUs barely have headroom for OCing.