CPU problem

[JustAGamer325]

Hi everyone!

 

So I've had my new PC for about a month now, which has a Ryzen 7 3700X and a Gigabyte Geforce RTX 2070 Super Windforce 3X. At first I was using it at base speed (3.6GHz) but then I decided to put it into some work so I put it into 4.0 GHz. It was working fine and after a week or so, I put it to 4.4GHz. Again, working fine, for about a week. I started experiencing freezes or rather framedrops about every two seconds. At first I thought it was the GPU. I ran a Heaven Benchmark. Got a score of about 2100 and the whole thing was pulling out frame drops left and right and I got a minimum fps of 8.1. Then I decided to turn down the CPU clock speed. I ran the benchmark again and there was zero framedrops. I'm wondering if I can give amazon this CPU (it should still have warranty, I got all the parts about a month ago) or I have to live with the base clock speed.

 

Cheers!

[Meganter]

Hello,

 

If you didn't monitor temp who knows. What voltage did you use ? What motherboard and CPU cooler do you have ?

[gloop]

Full specs?

 

What voltage did you use?

[JustAGamer325]

Just now, gloop said:

Full specs?

 

What voltage did you use?

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3700X

Cooler: BeQuiet! Dark Rock 4

RAM: G.Skill TridentZ RGB 8x2GB cl 18 3600MHz (They are at 3600MHz, they came with a speed of 2133MHz)

GPU: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 Super Windforce OC 3X 8GB

Mobo: MSI B450 Tomahawk Max

PSU: Seasonic Focus GX650W

Case: Cooler Master TD500 mesh white + BeQuiet Pure Wings 2 for exhaust

Monitor: LG 27GL850

[gloop]

Just now, JustAGamer325 said:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3700X

Cooler: BeQuiet! Dark Rock 4

RAM: G.Skill TridentZ RGB 8x2GB cl 18 3600MHz (They are at 3600MHz, they came with a speed of 2133MHz)

GPU: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 Super Windforce OC 3X 8GB

Mobo: MSI B450 Tomahawk Max

PSU: Seasonic Focus GX650W

Case: Cooler Master TD500 mesh white + BeQuiet Pure Wings 2 for exhaust

Monitor: LG 27GL850

How did you verify that the RAM is running at 3600Mhz? Try using CPU-Z.

 

Again, what voltage is the CPU running at? 

[JustAGamer325]

Just now, gloop said:

How did you verify that the RAM is running at 3600Mhz? Try using CPU-Z.

 

Again, what voltage is the CPU running at? 

I went into the bios and turned it to 3600MHz. As for the voltage, how do I check it?

 

[Haro]

3 minutes ago, JustAGamer325 said:

They are at 3600MHz, they came with a speed of 2133MHz)

That's without xmp. 

Use hwinfo64 to check ram frequency. 

3 minutes ago, JustAGamer325 said:

AMD Ryzen 3700X

Voltages? Temps?

Use hwinfo64 to check voltages. 

Edited July 13, 2020 by TofuHaroto

[mahyar]

for cpu voltage use cpu-z

[Haro]

1 minute ago, mahyar said:

cpu voltage use cpu-z

With zen 2 I wouldn't trust anything but hwinfo64 for voltage reading. 

[mahyar]

 

1 minute ago, TofuHaroto said:

With zen 2 I wouldn't trust anything but hwinfo64 for voltage reading. 

i didn know that!

[5x5]

6 minutes ago, JustAGamer325 said:

I went into the bios and turned it to 3600MHz. As for the voltage, how do I check it?

 

So you ran an unstable overclock and want to return the CPU because of user error?

[JustAGamer325]

5 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

That's without xmp. 

Use hwinfo64 to check ram frequency. 

Voltages? Temps?

Use hwinfo64 to check voltages. 

The ram frequency is 1800MHz, the cpu voltage is 1.256V, in the bios the temp of the cpu is about 46 but that's probably idle so where can I check when it is under load?

[Haro]

1 minute ago, JustAGamer325 said:

that's probably idle so where can I check when it is under load?

Cpu voltages?

[JustAGamer325]

7 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

So you ran an unstable overclock and want to return the CPU because of user error?

What do you mean? I was told that this cpu could handle 3600MHz.

[5x5]

Just now, JustAGamer325 said:

What do you mean? I was told that this cpu could handle 3600MHz.

I mean your 4.4GHz setting - just leave the CPU on all auto, enable PBO and don't mess with it

[JustAGamer325]

2 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

I mean your 4.4GHz setting - just leave the CPU on all auto, enable PBO and don't mess with it

Oh, ok. I'll look into it! Thanks!

[JustAGamer325]

5 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

Cpu voltages?

3.6 GHz - 1.210V

4.0 GHz - 1.256V

4.4 GHz - 1.510V

[5x5]

1 minute ago, JustAGamer325 said:

3.6 GHz - 1.210V

4.0 GHz - 1.256V

4.4 GHz - 1.510V

your voltages are, for the lack of a better word, not good at all - like I said, let it do its thing. AMD's subsystems are far more efficient at controlling Zen than end users. Hence why PBO usually beats most overclocks.

[JustAGamer325]

5 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

I mean your 4.4GHz setting - just leave the CPU on all auto, enable PBO and don't mess with it

I just thought that 4.4 GHz was just the maximum capacity at which the cpu could run on it's own and that overclocking it was when you took it over 4.4. I came to the conclusion that the cpu should always be able to run nicely of speeds upto 4.4 and if it wasn't able to it was an error in the cpu itself.

[JustAGamer325]

5 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

your voltages are, for the lack of a better word, not good at all - like I said, let it do its thing. AMD's subsystems are far more efficient at controlling Zen than end users. Hence why PBO usually beats most overclocks.

Alright, I went into the bios and put the clock speed on auto but what about the RAM? How can I put it to 3600MHz

[5x5]

5 minutes ago, JustAGamer325 said:

Alright, I went into the bios and put the clock speed on auto but what about the RAM? How can I put it to 3600MHz

Of course, the ram should be at 3600 with as low timings as you can get stably. This is by far the most performance impactful thing, cas latency. I'd you can get stable speeds at lower timings, you can get better overall performance.

 

10 minutes ago, JustAGamer325 said:

I just thought that 4.4 GHz was just the maximum capacity at which the cpu could run on it's own and that overclocking it was when you took it over 4.4. I came to the conclusion that the cpu should always be able to run nicely of speeds upto 4.4 and if it wasn't able to it was an error in the cpu itself.

4.4 is single core boost. Just like intel CPUs don't run at 5.3GHz boost on all cores, AMD CPUs don't run at the max rated boost on all cores. That's why I said leave it on auto, the CPU will automatically determine where more clock speed is needed and ramp that core to 4.4 whole the others stay at 4-4.3

[xg32]

15 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

your voltages are, for the lack of a better word, not good at all - like I said, let it do its thing. AMD's subsystems are far more efficient at controlling Zen than end users. Hence why PBO usually beats most overclocks.

....do we tell him? @JustAGamer325 how long did u run the 4.4 for?

[5x5]

Just now, xg32 said:

....do we tell him? op how long did u run the 4.4 for?

He hasn't degraded anything for a few days. Degradation occurs over the course of weeks or months even. No need to panick him even more

[JustAGamer325]

Just now, xg32 said:

....do we tell him? @JustAGamer325 how long did u run the 4.4 for?

Like 3 days or sth. Why?

 

[Ajukrezi]

22 minutes ago, JustAGamer325 said:

3.6 GHz - 1.210V

4.0 GHz - 1.256V

4.4 GHz - 1.510V

1,51 .... AUCH...

recommend max voltage is 1.3 as i recall. I dont think anybody will take back that CPU after you put the voltage that high

 

ahh saw you didnt run it for to long so CPU is fine,, but yes as others say these CPU are best in auto. wouldnt spend time overclocking those