New rig for upcoming RTX 3080/3080ti?

[Shimoura Kinji]

I want to build a new rig for the upcoming RTX 3000 series. Too bad while i can build a pc I have no deep knowledge bout pc components. The PC will mainly be used for gaming with minor or gpu heavy tasks. The big question for me is, should i build the PC before or after the new RTX release (and buy the gpu when it releases)? On the one hand the prices may drop to boost the sales they also can go up to get the more profit. There my lack of deep knowledge rly pains. Wich is the better way to go?

 

What do i want to spend:

I have 2000€ - 2500€ (2250U$US - 2800$US) in mind.

 

What do i take from my old rig:

Only the general stuff. Mouse, keybord, Monitors i allready have. I have one 32 inch 1440p main monitor and 2 1080p 27 inch monitors + one 42 inch(?) 1080p tv wich is only on when i watch series. For the os and games etc i have a 500gb and 1tb samsung ssd.

 

What do i have in mind:

The goal is a high end gaming pc with looks in mind. Becasue of that i have some components in mind.

 

case: NZXT H710i black/white edition.

gpu: 3090ti 3080ti (sry typo). I dont know the price for one but i read 999$ somewhere. Dunno if thats anywhere the real price but i would go for a 3080 if its too expensive.

cooling: NZXT KRAKEN X73. This one is just by it looks. If there is a better alternative iam open for it.

psu: Nothing specific in mind but dont want to cheap that one out. Something around 750W based on what i found bout the RTX 3080ti. Since i want to use cablemod modular is needed.

ram: G.Skill Trident Z / Z Neo.  16gb should be enough but i have no cluse bout the speed.

motherdoard: Sry i have no clue wich motherbards are good.

cpu: No idea here as well. I dont fancy amd or intel.

 

I rly hope you can help me with this one.

[marmour]

12 minutes ago, Shimoura Kinji said:

build the PC before or after the new RTX release

Wait till after. Pricing is bad across all components at the moment, with the exception of maybe RAM .(Europe may not be so bad)

12 minutes ago, Shimoura Kinji said:

NZXT KRAKEN X73.

Good looking cooler, but expensive. A good air cooler will work fine if you want to save some money.

 

12 minutes ago, Shimoura Kinji said:

750W

Will almost certainly be more than enough. Obviously wait until it's released though

 

12 minutes ago, Shimoura Kinji said:

G.Skill Trident Z / Z Neo

Similar to the AIO, it looks great, but its expensive. In a high level build like this though, I would say it's justifiable.

 

12 minutes ago, Shimoura Kinji said:

Sry i have no clue wich motherbards are good

Gotta pick CPU first. I would consider waiting for 4th gen ryzen at the end of the year. If you want a stop gap till then, get a 3300X - it will be fine for gaming.

If you want the best now, probably a 3600/3700X/10600K are the best value for gaming.

If you go AMD, a $160-200 B550 board will be a solid choice.

For intel, a Z490 board is the obvious choice, and try to avoid the Asrock boards.

 

Lots could change before these new releases, but I hope this helps

[Mateyyy]

PCPartPicker Part List: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/vm2CRk

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-10600K 4.1 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€283.64 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black 55 CFM CPU Cooler  (€69.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: MSI MPG Z490 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  (€241.55 @ Alza) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL14 Memory  (€114.69 @ Alternate) 
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€139.97 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  (€85.68 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS 550 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€107.22 @ ARLT) 
Case Fan: be quiet! SilentWings 3 PWM High-Speed 77.57 CFM 140 mm Fan  (€21.79 @ Aquatuning) 
Case Fan: be quiet! SilentWings 3 PWM High-Speed 77.57 CFM 140 mm Fan  (€21.79 @ Aquatuning) 

Total: €1086.23

 

Considering your use case, if you were to buy now, I'd recommend something along these lines (minus the graphics card).

Really though, you should wait until Nvidia and AMD actually release their next-gen offerings, and choose the parts then, as by that time we'll likely see new CPU releases too.

[GrockleTD]

50 minutes ago, BlueScope819 said:

There is no 3090 ti

we don't know that for sure, the entire product stack is more or less pure speculation at this point. last i checked, we didn't even know for sure if it was even going to be called 3xxx/Ti, so it is reccomended to change your wording when dealing with rumors to "probably won't be"

[zeusthemoose]

If you are waiting for new GPUs, don’t bother putting a list together now. By then there should be new CPUs as well. And prices for almost everything will be different because the shortage should hopefully end.

That said, you will be looking at either an ampere or big Navi gpu, ryzen 4000 cpu, b550 motherboard, probably another tb of nvme storage, and maybe another hard drive also.
 

57 minutes ago, Intel Fanboy said:

You don't know if they are better than 2000 series rtx cards or whether

they will bottleneck cpu's and leaks don't mean anything

GPUs from both sides will be significantly faster than current generation cards. Even the highest tier gpu from next gen will not bottleneck a high end cpu from this generation like op would get if they don’t wait for the next CPUs. Leaks from reliable sources like what we have so far for ampere and big Navi (based off of new consoles performance) might not be 100% accurate, but they do mean something.

[Nena Trinity]

3700X is a sure deal since next-gen consoles have eight Zen2 cores also! (Also do not ignore RDNA2 GPUs nextgen uses that to!)

[Shimoura Kinji]

18 hours ago, marmour said:

Wait till after. Pricing is bad across all components at the moment, with the exception of maybe RAM .(Europe may not be so bad)

Good looking cooler, but expensive. A good air cooler will work fine if you want to save some money.

 

Will almost certainly be more than enough. Obviously wait until it's released though

 

Similar to the AIO, it looks great, but its expensive. In a high level build like this though, I would say it's justifiable.

 

Gotta pick CPU first. I would consider waiting for 4th gen ryzen at the end of the year. If you want a stop gap till then, get a 3300X - it will be fine for gaming.

If you want the best now, probably a 3600/3700X/10600K are the best value for gaming.

If you go AMD, a $160-200 B550 board will be a solid choice.

For intel, a Z490 board is the obvious choice, and try to avoid the Asrock boards.

 

Lots could change before these new releases, but I hope this helps

That helps. Since iam going for looks as well i would spend the extra money. Looks like its better to wait for the actual release.