Which to choose?

[Hold-Ma-Beer]

I was looking for a air cooler to replace my stock one which came with my Ryzen 3 2200G because I want to overclock the hell out of it

[CPU @ 3.9GHz and iGPU @ 1650MHz]

So, I went online and selected some air coolers based on my current and upgrade path as well as availability and price:

 

1. Cooler Master Hyper 212 - 2850 INR  Little bit on the expensive side and personally, I'm not a fan of how it looks....

 

 

2. Deepcool Gammax GTE V2 - 2244 INR I like how it looks, but will it perform the same as Hyper 212? I've heard lots of good things about the Hyper 212

 

 

What are your thoughts? I have no more than 3000 INR to spend. (INR = Indian currency)

Other brands like Noctua and some other more reputed brands are out of stock.. SO...

[eeeee1]

from ratings from Pcpartpicker, it seems that Coolermaster's cooler seems to be used more and has many positive ratings. I would suggest the coolermaster.

if you want some more specs here are pcpartpicker links. read through some reviews

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/YdJkcf/cooler-master-hyper-212-led-663-cfm-rifle-bearing-cpu-cooler-rr-212l-16pr-r1

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/QCvqqs/deepcool-gammaxx-gte-v2-645-cfm-cpu-cooler-dp-mch4-gmx-gte-v2bk

 

[boggy77]

when it comes to air coolers, the most important parts are, in this order:

1. number of fans (1 or 2, 2 is significantly better)

2. size of fans (90mm, 120mm, 140mm, higher is better - if they can fit in the case)

3. number of heat pipes (the more, the better)

the two that you're comparing are very similar, as all three factors are the same.

 

this one is a better option (but more expensive)

Deepcool FROSTWIN V2.0

 

there are a few better ones on aliexpress if you can buy from there.

or look at local shops or other indian stores and apply those 3 factors when deciding.

[narrdarr]

The 212 is expensive...? It like one of the cheapest decent coolers you can get.

Anyways just get it in black. hyper 212 evo black

There's nothing wrong with grammar cooler it either .

There's also the artic freeze 33 and 34

 

[Vishera]

I have the original Hyper 212 Evo and it's fantastic,

Overclocking should not be a problem with the Hyper 212 series.

[Hold-Ma-Beer]

I'm buying from mdcomputers.in as they have the best prices, amazon is way overpriced and local shops are on lockdown.

I see that both coolers have 4 heatpipes which are directly in contact with the IHS. I'm more towards the deepcool because of low cost and the black trim (with the RGB fan ^.^). They should perfrom very similar right?

Thank you everyone for suggestions!

[narrdarr]

23 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

when it comes to air coolers, the most important parts are, in this order:

1. number of fans (1 or 2, 2 is significantly better)

2. size of fans (90mm, 120mm, 140mm, higher is better - if they can fit in the case)

3. number of heat pipes (the more, the better)

the two that you're comparing are very similar, as all three factors are the same.

 

this one is a better option (but more expensive)

Deepcool FROSTWIN V2.0

 

there are a few better ones on aliexpress if you can buy from there.

or look at local shops or other indian stores and apply those 3 factors when deciding.

This is not accurate at all. 

 

1. heat pipes ( more heat transfer surface area ) also  how well all the pipes make contact to ihs is important 

2. Fin density ( thermal mass)

3. Size / type of fan(s) 120mm and 140mm are best. When they larger you loose static pressure. When they are smaller they are noisier. 120mm and 140mm will offer the best balance of noise and performance. Static pressure fans vs air flow fans. Static pressure fans are designed to push or pull air through an obstruction like a heat sink, rad, or other

4. Quality of TIM. The gammax cooler is fine its downfall is the TIM that it comes with. 

5. Number of fans.

[Hold-Ma-Beer]

@narrdarr I'll apply Arctic MX4 anyway

[narrdarr]

I guess the real question here @Hold-Ma-Beer is what is your budget. There is nothing wrong with the coolers you have picked but depending on your budget we might be able to pick something better for what want to do with it. 

The other thing that needs to be considered is size. will these coolers even fit in your case? What case do you have?

[Tan3l6]

For Ryzen 2200G either cooler should suffice with difference of couple degrees, depending of the installation process perfection.

[Hold-Ma-Beer]

@Tan3l6 I'll be overclocking the 2200G to its limits and mostly upgrade to a 6 core chip later and overclock that as well. So, either of the two should work perfectly right?

[Tan3l6]

2 minutes ago, Hold-Ma-Beer said:

@Tan3l6 I'll be overclocking the 2200G to its limits and mostly upgrade to a 6 core chip later and overclock that as well. So, either of the two should work perfectly right?

I'd believe so. At least I have had Hyper 212 on 6700K overclocked, and not being too hot.

The Deeopcool Gammaxx seems almost identical. I might be corrected though.

[Hold-Ma-Beer]

@narrdarr I've a very tight budget of 3000 INR and will only buy from mdcomputer.in since they have the best price ( as far as I'ver personally experienced). My case is Corsair Carbide spec-01, Gigabyte Aorus M, 16GB Corsair Vengeance, CX450W PSU.

I plan to upgrade step by step, so next will be a Ryzen 5 with a GPU. So, I wanted a cooler that would be able to handle that as well.

[Vishera]

13 minutes ago, Tan3l6 said:

I'd believe so. At least I have had Hyper 212 on 6700K overclocked, and not being too hot.

The Deeopcool Gammaxx seems almost identical. I might be corrected though.

My Hyper 212 is cooling my overclocked 6 core CPU and temps are nice.

But with the Gammaxx there is a concern about surface smoothness,heatpipe size and heatpipe coverage of the CPU which affects cooling performance:

 

Gammexx:

 

Hyper 212:

I would pick the Hyper 212 based on those images...

[Hold-Ma-Beer]

@Vishera Yes, you're right, the deepcool seems a little on the rougher side. But both have 6mm pipes right?

[narrdarr]

15 minutes ago, Hold-Ma-Beer said:

@narrdarr I've a very tight budget of 3000 INR and will only buy from mdcomputer.in since they have the best price ( as far as I'ver personally experienced). My case is Corsair Carbide spec-01, Gigabyte Aorus M, 16GB Corsair Vengeance, CX450W PSU.

I plan to upgrade step by step, so next will be a Ryzen 5 with a GPU. So, I wanted a cooler that would be able to handle that as well.

Well the 212 and the gte are to tall for your case. Your case max height for a cooler is 150mm. Both those cooler are 157-158mm. Glad we caught that before you bought one. Is there an artic freeze 33 available on your site?

[Vishera]

Just now, Hold-Ma-Beer said:

@Vishera Yes, you're right, the deepcool seems a little on the rougher side. But both have 6mm pipes right?

Seems like the heatpipes are larger on the Hyper 212 since they cover almost all of the surface area of the block while the Gammax has large gaps of Aluminium between them.

And there are also small gaps of air between the aluminium and the heatpipes so that will lower the cooling performance.

[Hold-Ma-Beer]

@narrdarr Thank you so much, I literally forgot to check this.

But after searching a bit online I found this

"Although Corsair state in the technical specifications 150mm for the maximum CPU cooler height, our Noctua NH-U12P managed to just about fit within the chassis. Bigger coolers such as the Noctua NH-D14 which are 160mm in height will struggle to fit with the side panel attached"

 

The Noctua NH-U12P has a height of 158mm, so as you told, Deepcool should fit in right?

[Hold-Ma-Beer]

@Vishera You're right, but as @narrdarr told, which I totally forgot while checking these coolers, that my case supports max 150mm height coolers. After some search online, people were able to fit 158mm ones. The deepcool is 157.5mm while the 212 is 158.5mm. I'm really in a dilemma now.. o_O

[Vishera]

Just now, Hold-Ma-Beer said:

@Vishera You're right, but as @narrdarr told, which I totally forgot while checking these coolers, that my case supports max 150mm height coolers. After some search online, people were able to fit 158mm ones. The deepcool is 157.5mm while the 212 is 158.5mm. I'm really in a dilemma now.. o_O

You can buy a Noctua NH-U14s and replace the fan with a 120mm fan in order for the cooler to fit (Cooler itself is 150mm,the stock fan is bigger than the cooler)

Or you can buy a NH-U9s which is nice and compact.

 

The NH-U14s will perform better.

[Hold-Ma-Beer]

@Vishera The noctua series is not available in online stores, and if it is available its way overpriced like hell...

The NH-u12S was listed on amazon for like 14000INR.. So, yea...

[Vishera]

Just now, Hold-Ma-Beer said:

@Vishera The noctua series is not available in online stores, and if it is available its way overpriced like hell...

The NH-u12S was listed on amazon for like 14000INR.. So, yea...

I live next to their factory so i have no idea about things like,sorry to hear about it.

That price is 3 times more than Noctua charge (Yes you can buy directly from them if you live close enough)

I will try to come up with a different solution.

[narrdarr]

2 minutes ago, Hold-Ma-Beer said:

@narrdarr Thank you so much, I literally forgot to check this.

But after searching a bit online I found this

"Although Corsair state in the technical specifications 150mm for the maximum CPU cooler height, our Noctua NH-U12P managed to just about fit within the chassis. Bigger coolers such as the Noctua NH-D14 which are 160mm in height will struggle to fit with the side panel attached"

 

The Noctua NH-U12P has a height of 158mm, so as you told, Deepcool should fit in right?

They are all the same size within a 1.5mm. It's your choice it you want to try to something that size

[Vishera]

What about the ARCTIC Freezer 33 like @narrdarr suggested?

You could try to squeeze a Hyper 212 in there but there is no guarantee for success.

 

EDIT: Seems like it fits for most people https://pcpartpicker.com/b/vc7hP6

List of builds with your case and the Hyper 212:

https://pcpartpicker.com/builds/by_part/pDphP6#h=8649

[narrdarr]

5 hours ago, Vishera said:

What about the ARCTIC Freezer 33 like @narrdarr suggested?

You could try to squeeze a Hyper 212 in there but there is no guarantee for success.

 

EDIT: Seems like it fits for most people https://pcpartpicker.com/b/vc7hP6

List of builds with your case and the Hyper 212:

https://pcpartpicker.com/builds/by_part/pDphP6#h=8649

i did some research on this. i found that you can get the 212 to fit. the problem with it is:

The cooler has to be installed horizontally instead of vertically and the intake fan of the cpu cooler(212) will be place directly above the gpu. So.., the heat from the gpu is going to  be directly feed into the cpu cooler.