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Hey to you guys reading this.
I've been thinking about upgrading my GPU and possibly my main monitor for a week now, but I'm in a dilemma.
My current setup is as follows:
CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K Kaby Lake Quad-Core 4.2 GHz LGA 1151 (currently running on boost mode, which is at 4.5 GHz)
GPU: 
EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB SSC Gaming ACX 2.0+ (older card because my 980ti blew up)
RAM: 
G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 4133 
Motherboard: GIGABYTE AORUS GA-Z270X-Gaming K7 (rev. 1.0) LGA 1151
PSU: 
Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 750W 80+ Gold
Main Monitor: just a shitty 60hz 1080p monitor from LG that cost ma 100$ in 2013 (yes I know, you can roast me for that)

So my question is; would there be a bottleneck in my setup if I were to upgrade to a RTX 2070 Super? And if so, would going up to a 1440p Monitor help my CPU out? (I'm thinking the CPU is going to be the bottleneck there, atleast in 1080p)

My expectations are to run most games at max settings without going under 60 FPS. And possibly running a 1080p 144hz monitor OR a 1440p 75hz/144hz monitor (?)

Thank you for your answers and criticism.

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6 minutes ago, GalopeSalope said:

So my question is; would there be a bottleneck in my setup if I were to upgrade to a RTX 2070 Super

Nope 

But if you don't need nvec just get a 5700xt

Similar performance

Cheaper price.

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At 4.5GHz all-core it should handle a 2070S in most games just fine. At 1440p you won't need to worry about a bottleneck in pretty much any current-gen title.

Unless the 970 is unusable for you at the moment though, I'd wait for Nvidia Ampere and AMD RDNA2 later this year.

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I never know why people worry about a 1080p bottleneck, you are probably going to get over the FPS you need unless you go crazy with quality settings.

 

It is the experience that counts, not a technical detail about theoretical maximums.

 

Just get the card you want and as long as you get the experience you want you are good.

 

If you don’t and you know the CPU is stopping you getting the experience you want then buy something more recent, even second hand.

 

If you cant afford to do all this then the best option is a second hand newer card anyway. You likely get a nice FPS boost but without all the hassle.

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8 minutes ago, NineEyeRon said:

I never know why people worry about a 1080p bottleneck, you are probably going to get over the FPS you need unless you go crazy with quality settings.

It's the frametimes, not the FPS. In some games with a 4670K and a 2070 I used to get decent framerates but the frametimes and therefore stuttering were abysmal.

Desktop: Intel Core i9-9900K | ASUS Strix Z390-F | G.Skill Trident Z Neo 2x16GB 3200MHz CL14 | EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER XC Ultra | Corsair RM650x | Fractal Design Define R6

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47 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

Unless the 970 is unusable for you at the moment though, I'd wait for Nvidia Ampere and AMD RDNA2 later this year.

Thank you all for the feedback, really appreciated.
But this bit caught my attention, so I went and looked it up and it's looking like the next gen of Nvidia cards is going to be quite powerful, over 40% faster, and if not more, than the lastest cards on the market. (According to the articles I read)
Which brought up a question to my mind, with that Nvidia Ampere architecture, I'll mostlikely need to buy a whole new PC at that point, no?

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13 minutes ago, GalopeSalope said:

But this bit caught my attention, so I went and looked it up and it's looking like the next gen of Nvidia cards is going to be quite powerful, over 40% faster, and if not more, than the lastest cards on the market. (According to the articles I read)

Well at the moment, all we have is rumours, so there's no way to know right now how much faster these cards will be.

If I had to guess though, in the case of Nvidia for example I'd expect a little bigger of a leap than we've seen from Pascal to Turing. RDNA2 looks promising if we're to go by the limited footage we've seen of gameplay of the next-gen consoles, but at the same time I wouldn't expect Nvidia to lose the performance crown. That being said, the next-gen consoles obviously won't feature the top end of what AMD has to offer because of price constraints, so who knows.

 

19 minutes ago, GalopeSalope said:

Which brought up a question to my mind, with that Nvidia Ampere architecture, I'll mostlikely need to buy a whole new PC at that point, no?

I mean, probably not. Or at least not because of the GPUs but rather because of the games, as more and more will start leveraging more than 8 threads.

Desktop: Intel Core i9-9900K | ASUS Strix Z390-F | G.Skill Trident Z Neo 2x16GB 3200MHz CL14 | EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER XC Ultra | Corsair RM650x | Fractal Design Define R6

Laptop: 2018 Apple MacBook Pro 13"  --  i5-8259U | 8GB LPDDR3 | 512GB NVMe

Peripherals: Leopold FC660C w/ Topre Silent 45g | Logitech MX Master 3 & Razer Basilisk X HyperSpeed | HIFIMAN HE400se & iFi ZEN DAC | Audio-Technica AT2020USB+

Display: Gigabyte G34WQC

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10 hours ago, Mateyyy said:

It's the frametimes, not the FPS. In some games with a 4670K and a 2070 I used to get decent framerates but the frametimes and therefore stuttering were abysmal.

Thats just bad decision making to be honest..
Going into that setup,.. I'd have already expected that...(as many others),... and wouldn't make such an pairing of parts unless I had a 8thread solution upcoming already in the bank. No way would I (or many others) use such a setup expecting it to be great without framecapping its potential, if you can afford a 2070S for Gaming, you can do better platform pairings too or make alternative arrangements for a better overall experience.
Asking for advice is warranted, I'd never recommend that to anyone.

Maximums - Asus Z97-K /w i5 4690 Bclk @106.9Mhz * x39 = 4.17Ghz, 8GB of 2600Mhz DDR3,.. Gigabyte GTX970 G1-Gaming @ 1550Mhz

 

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12 minutes ago, SkilledRebuilds said:

Thats just bad decision making to be honest..
Going into that setup,.. I'd have already expected that...(as many others),... and wouldn't make such an pairing of parts unless I had a 8thread solution upcoming already in the bank. No way would I (or many others) use such a setup expecting it to be great without framecapping its potential, if you can afford a 2070S for Gaming, you can do better platform pairings too or make alternative arrangements for a better overall experience.
Asking for advice is warranted, I'd never recommend that to anyone.

Yes, I know lol, it was just temporary. I upgraded nearly a year ago from Z87.

Desktop: Intel Core i9-9900K | ASUS Strix Z390-F | G.Skill Trident Z Neo 2x16GB 3200MHz CL14 | EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER XC Ultra | Corsair RM650x | Fractal Design Define R6

Laptop: 2018 Apple MacBook Pro 13"  --  i5-8259U | 8GB LPDDR3 | 512GB NVMe

Peripherals: Leopold FC660C w/ Topre Silent 45g | Logitech MX Master 3 & Razer Basilisk X HyperSpeed | HIFIMAN HE400se & iFi ZEN DAC | Audio-Technica AT2020USB+

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