userbenchmark Userbenchmark not recognizing XMP profile enabled

[Wizwerd]

Latest benchmark 

 

As the title says, UBM says my xmp profile isn't enabled but I confirmed i have it enabled in the BIOS

 

memory CPU-Z

cpu CPU-Z

 

 

I also just recently OC my cpu from 3.2 to 4.0 with Intel Extreme Tuning Utility.  Confirmed with benchmarks and 1hr stress tests to ensure that It is stable.  Whenever I restart and go back into the bios though it would revert any changes made with IETU and boot with defaults until I loaded the program.  I also went into the bios and double checked that xmp 2.0 was enabled in its own profile and made sure the set clock speeds were 3200 for the ram.  I also only changed the GHz for the cpu to 4.0 and made no voltage or other clock changes but CPU-z didn't reflect the core speed when I tested it and only boosted to 3.6 GHz until I opened IETU and loaded my 4.0GHz profile.

 

Not sure why things weren't being saved from the bios when I clicked save changes and boot option upon exit.  If you guys have any suggestions or tips I'd appreciate it.

 

[WereCatf]

3 minutes ago, Wizwerd said:

Userbenchmark not recognizing XMP profile enabled

Why do you care if it claims you have XMP enabled or not, if you know it is enabled? It's just some bug in the app, why not just ignore it?

[Haro]

Cpu z says its at 3200 

What's the problem ? 

It's 1600*2 ( ddr : double rate)

[Meganter]

And to add on what @WereCatfsaid, Userbenchmark is trash anyway.

[Wizwerd]

 

1 minute ago, TofuHaroto said:

Cpu z says its at 3200 

What's the problem ? 

It's 1600*2 ( ddr : double rate)

ah ok, I just wanted to make sure XMP was working properly.  Its my first time OC the CPU and I just installed ram faster than 2133 for the first time today as well.  I just constantly 2nd guess myself so I wanted to make sure I had everything working correctly.  I appreciate the reply's guys tyvm!

[TrigrH]

who TF overclocks on desktop with XTU lol... use the bios.

[WereCatf]

3 minutes ago, TrigrH said:

who TF overclocks on desktop with XTU lol... use the bios.

It's a perfectly valid way of finding good settings. One can always move the settings into BIOS later on.

 

EDIT: Also, not all BIOSes simply offer much in the way of overclocking-options. XTU may be the only option in such a case.

[Wizwerd]

1 minute ago, TrigrH said:

who TF overclocks on desktop with XTU lol... use the bios.

A friend of mine told me he  used Intel extreme tuning utility so I tried it and its a super simple program.  They literally have a basic function for just moving the GHz slider up and the program solves the rest.  Makes OC even easier than ever if you don't have to restart.

[TrigrH]

@WereCatf @Wizwerd I think I know whats going on here, userbenchmark may not always read the current memory speed. It suspects XMP is disabled because memory performance is low.

 

The reason perf is on the low side is cos your platform supports quad channel memory however you only have two dimms installed. (dual channel)

[Wizwerd]

Just now, TrigrH said:

@WereCatf @Wizwerd I think I know whats going on here, userbenchmark may not always read the current memory speed. It suspects XMP is disabled because memory performance is low.

 

The reason perf is on the low side is cos your platform supports quad channel memory however you only have two dimms installed. (dual channel)

Yeah I'm debating on if I want to return the 2 sticks I got and go with x4 8gig or just spend another $170 for the 2nd set of 32gig.  I'm thinking about longevity because I might upgrade the CPU/mobo/ and case with the new skylake chipset coming out.  It looks really promising for gaming from what I've seen and understood.

 

Right now most of my games don't even use 4 cores, all the dead games I play are like 1-2 cores so getting a higher cpu base clock would really improve fps.  I want to maintain 144 frames on everygame I play.

[TrigrH]

7 minutes ago, Wizwerd said:

Yeah I'm debating on if I want to return the 2 sticks I got and go with x4 8gig or just spend another $170 for the 2nd set of 32gig.  I'm thinking about longevity because I might upgrade the CPU/mobo/ and case with the new skylake chipset coming out.  It looks really promising for gaming from what I've seen and understood.

 

Right now most of my games don't even use 4 cores, all the dead games I play are like 1-2 cores so getting a higher cpu base clock would really improve fps.  I want to maintain 144 frames on everygame I play.

4x8gb is better if you can get a full return without extra cost then its worth it. I always aim for 3600mhz or better memory these days as it's more useful if you move to another platform. 

 

Judging by the 3.65 GHz (avg) clock speed shitty usebenchmark is reporting, your overclock isn't set correctly at the very least you should be able to get 4.2ghz on all 6 core with a decent cooler.

[Wizwerd]

39 minutes ago, TrigrH said:

4x8gb is better if you can get a full return without extra cost then its worth it. I always aim for 3600mhz or better memory these days as it's more useful if you move to another platform. 

 

Judging by the 3.65 GHz (avg) clock speed shitty usebenchmark is reporting, your overclock isn't set correctly at the very least you should be able to get 4.2ghz on all 6 core with a decent cooler.

I have a Noctua NH-U12A and my temps have been under 54 c under the stress testing i've done.  I've looked at guides online but I haven't found one that has my specific bios.  I've been getting stuck when I try to follow some of the steps because either my bios doesn't have the feature they're talking about or they've replace a feature with a new one that works differently.  I had another guy in another thread I posted here give me a detailed guide on what to set the v-core and vinput too but I didn't see vinput as an option in the bios.

 

I guess i'll reboot and see if i can't make the vcore change

[Wizwerd]

I was doing some googling for the best x4 8gig ram since I didn't do enough research and went straight for this

 

I saw @Zando Bob and @Jurrunio in a thread earlier this year talking about the difference between CL14 & CL16 lol.

 

I wanted to get your expert opinion on these two ram sticks.

 

3200 CL16  vs 3200 CL14  

 

Passmark 3200 CL16  vs   Passmark 3200 CL14

 

I wanted to keep it corsair RGB for the aesthetic and it works with my Keyboard + mouse setup with Icue

 

I want to make sure i'm getting the better 1% and .1% lows from these two sticks.

 

Price is a factor but I think im willing to fork over the extra dough for the CL14 if I can use these sticks in a future CPU/MOBO upgrade.

 

I might upgrade to the intel skylake cause I hear its going to have high CPU GHz and there isn't a game out there that uses more than 6 cores I think.

 

Although the AMD processor coming out this month looks promising I don't know if these ram sticks would be adequte to swap into them over Gskill.  I hear gskill has made their ram geared for RYZEN specifically.

 

I also used this REDDIT POST  as a reference for FPS gains to base these ram sticks on.

 

I didn't see any corsair RGB with 3600 + frequency that was CL16 or less

 

also if I got the CL14's do you OC the frequency to 3600?  I'm getting sucked into this rabbit hole so bad RN.

[Jurrunio]

I dont know if my country is the same as yours, but 125 for C16 and 305 for C14, that's outrageous even for someone who will tune the heck out.of the C14 B-die kit.

[Wizwerd]

3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

I dont know if my country is the same as yours, but 125 for C16 and 305 for C14, that's outrageous even for someone who will tune the heck out.of the C14 B-die kit.

It would cost me about $420 USD for quad channel.  Its double the price as the c16.  I ended up ordering the c16 anyway because I figured I could spend the $200 on a new case, or even a new motherboard or something.  which would give better returns I think.  Maybe if they had higher frequency CL14's available in RGB by corsair I would get that but right now it doesn't seem worth it.

[Jurrunio]

14 minutes ago, Wizwerd said:

It would cost me about $420 USD for quad channel.  Its double the price as the c16.  I ended up ordering the c16 anyway because I figured I could spend the $200 on a new case, or even a new motherboard or something.  which would give better returns I think.  Maybe if they had higher frequency CL14's available in RGB by corsair I would get that but right now it doesn't seem worth it.

cheaper kits are like 3600MHz CL18, that's the "one step higher" bin Corsair makes for those who want more than 3200 C16

[Wizwerd]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

cheaper kits are like 3600MHz CL18, that's the "one step higher" bin Corsair makes for those who want more than 3200 C16

hmm.  isn't lower CL > frequency ?  I mean to an extent.  I'd rather have higher 1% lows and .1% lows because I play a lot of fps fighting type games where having any serious frame drop can cause you to miss or not see an incoming attack properly.  So having less latency and tighter timings in the ram seems more important than higher frequency.

 

Or is it that you can achieve the same thing with the higher CL?

[Jurrunio]

24 minutes ago, Wizwerd said:

hmm.  isn't lower CL > frequency ?  I mean to an extent.  I'd rather have higher 1% lows and .1% lows because I play a lot of fps fighting type games where having any serious frame drop can cause you to miss or not see an incoming attack properly.  So having less latency and tighter timings in the ram seems more important than higher frequency.

 

Or is it that you can achieve the same thing with the higher CL?

Ratio of frequency and timings is what defines latency yes, but higher frequency = higher bandwidth and more bandwidth means getting data transferred faster (i.e. shorter time). They both matter really.

[Wizwerd]

4 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Ratio of frequency and timings is what defines latency yes, but higher frequency = higher bandwidth and more bandwidth means getting data transferred faster (i.e. shorter time). They both matter really.

so you think this  > this (ordered this) > and this 4000 one  ?

[Jurrunio]

Just now, Wizwerd said:

so you think this  > this (ordered this) > and this 4000 one  ?

the 4266 C19 is the best one (highest frequency and fraction of frequency to timings), aside from the price and the fact that your system maybe wont run such high frequency XMP profiles stable at all.

[Wizwerd]

11 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

the 4266 C19 is the best one (highest frequency and fraction of frequency to timings), aside from the price and the fact that your system maybe wont run such high frequency XMP profiles stable at all.

yeah its $450 per 2 sticks.

 

So I should cancel the CL16's and get this one for $103 per set

 

 

EDIT there's also this one but its $400 for quad channeling and its also the highest RGB corsair stick on passmark

Edited June 18, 2020 by Wizwerd

[Jurrunio]

2 minutes ago, Wizwerd said:

yeah its $450 per 2 sticks.

 

So I should cancel the CL16's and get this one for $103 per set

If you can spend the extra, yes.

[Wizwerd]

18 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

If you can spend the extra, yes.

Alright I ordered it, thanks again homie.

[Wizwerd]

On 6/18/2020 at 9:27 AM, Jurrunio said:

If you can spend the extra, yes.

I wanted to give an update.

 

I just installed the ram and I was immediately experiencing issues, BIOS not recognizing A1 and after a couple of setting changes and crashes it wouldn't recognize a1 and b1.

 

Turns out my mobo doesn't like frequencies higher than 3200.  I guess i'll have to work on getting a new mobo to run these sticks at their full potential.

 

Probably a cpu/case upgrade by the time I do that.

 

But for now I get to enjoy xmp 3200 with quad channel 

[Jurrunio]

25 minutes ago, Wizwerd said:

I wanted to give an update.

 

I just installed the ram and I was immediately experiencing issues, BIOS not recognizing A1 and after a couple of setting changes and crashes it wouldn't recognize a1 and b1.

 

Turns out my mobo doesn't like frequencies higher than 3200.  I guess i'll have to work on getting a new mobo to run these sticks at their full potential.

 

Probably a cpu/case upgrade by the time I do that.

 

But for now I get to enjoy xmp 3200 with quad channel 

Arent you supposed to use A2 B2 C2 and D2? Also need to clear CMOS and then apply XMP