clock speed VS core count

[Agamer1778]

4 ghz 6 core 16 thread cpu vs 2.60 ghz 8 core 16 thread cpu for AAA gaming.

both cpus of same generation and family. 

[Haro]

What cpu ? 

There is ipc count in the conversation 

Clock speeds and core count are not the only thing that matters 

[seon123]

Depends on the specific models, as "4GHz" or "2.6GHz" means absolutely nothing, due to turbo. I'm also not aware of a ton of 6 core 16 thread CPUs, so maybe check the numbers on that.

[jaslion]

Clockspeed doesn't matter the ipc (single core performance) is what matters more. You can have a 2ghz quad core cpu that smokes a 5ghz quad core because it just has better ipc. So we need to know the cpu's in question to be sure as which is better.

[Haro]

Just now, jaslion said:

ipc (single core performance)

You mean the instructions per core ? Lol

[jaslion]

1 minute ago, TofuHaroto said:

You mean the instructions per core ? Lol

Yes that's what I meant but I'm trying to put it in simpler terms :p.

[5x5]

17 minutes ago, Agamer1778 said:

4 ghz 6 core 16 thread cpu vs 2.60 ghz 8 core 16 thread cpu for AAA gaming.

both cpus of same generation and family. 

Without telling us the exact models, this thread might as well be a troll post.

[gloop]

I haven’t heard of much 6c/16t CPUs. 
 

what exact CPUs are we comparing?

[Agamer1778]

 XEON E5 1650 BASE 3.2GHZ AND TURBO 3.8GHZ OC TO 4GHZ AND XEON E5 2689 BASE CLOCK 2.60GHZ AND TURBO TO 3.6 GHZ.     

[Agamer1778]

E5 1650 30 USD AND E5 2689 50 USD

[5x5]

3 minutes ago, Agamer1778 said:

 XEON E5 1650 BASE 3.2GHZ AND TURBO 3.8GHZ OC TO 4GHZ AND XEON E5 2689 BASE CLOCK 2.60GHZ AND TURBO TO 3.6 GHZ.     

That's a 2nd gen Xeon vs a 5th gen Xeon and both run at similar clockspeeds. Also, you can't overclock these CPUs.

In any case, the 2689 is a much better CPU

[Haro]

1 minute ago, Agamer1778 said:

E5 1650 30 USD AND E5 2689 50 USD

Get the 1650 

It doesn't have 16 threads tho

I don't know where you got that from 

[Agamer1778]

NO BOTH ARE OF SAME GENERATION 2689 WAS NEVER RELEASED TO PUBLIC ITS AN OEM CPU BUT YOU CAN FIND USED ON ALIEXPRESS.

E5 2689:https://es.aliexpress.com/item/33025954802.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.711b72a5rlhYTX&algo_pvid=c4362c95-968e-4ebd-82fa-8c59b29451fb&algo_expid=c4362c95-968e-4ebd-82fa-8c59b29451fb-5&btsid=0ab6fb8815919578108158625e4914&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_

E5 1650:https://es.aliexpress.com/item/32799530696.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.35996ab9LI1cxq&algo_pvid=79f296f7-27f6-4b81-a27f-23f45835431d&algo_expid=79f296f7-27f6-4b81-a27f-23f45835431d-14&btsid=0ab6fab215919578549873912e56dc&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_

 

AND E5 1650 IS UNLOCKED WHILE 2689 IS NOT OVERCLOCKABLE

[Agamer1778]

 

[Fasauceome]

2 minutes ago, Agamer1778 said:

ARE OF SAME GENERATION 2689 WAS NEVER RELEASED TO PUBLIC ITS AN OEM CPU BUT YOU CAN

You have to quote people or we won't get a notification for your responses

[jaslion]

6 minutes ago, Agamer1778 said:

 

 

 

 

 

 BOTH ARE OF SAME GENERATION 2689 WAS NEVER RELEASED TO PUBLIC ITS AN OEM CPU BUT YOU CAN FIND USED ON ALIEXPRESS.

E5 2689:https://es.aliexpress.com/item/33025954802.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.711b72a5rlhYTX&algo_pvid=c4362c95-968e-4ebd-82fa-8c59b29451fb&algo_expid=c4362c95-968e-4ebd-82fa-8c59b29451fb-5&btsid=0ab6fb8815919578108158625e4914&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_

E5 1650:https://es.aliexpress.com/item/32799530696.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.35996ab9LI1cxq&algo_pvid=79f296f7-27f6-4b81-a27f-23f45835431d&algo_expid=79f296f7-27f6-4b81-a27f-23f45835431d-14&btsid=0ab6fab215919578549873912e56dc&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_

 

AND E5 1650 IS UNLOCKED WHILE 2689 IS NOT OVERCLOCKABLE

 

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Well the e5 1650 is better for gaming but neither is great. Really depends on how much this will cost as 6 core ryzen systems that are better are available for cheap nowadays. Also those aliexpress boards do not allow overclocking due to them being a c602 chipset and not a x79 chipset which does allow those features. A lot say that they are x79 but all are just recycled c602 chipsets with added features.

[Agamer1778]

I ALREADY HAVE RAM,PSU,HDD,SSD AND RX 580 ONLY NEED PROCESSOR AND MOTHERBOARD WHICH WILL COST 120 USD IF I GO FOR RYZEN LIKE RYZEN 1400 USED NEED TO BUY DDR4 RAM ALSO IT WILL COST 200 USD 

[WkdPaul]

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@Agamer1778

 

There's no need to post the same reply multiple times, doing so is viewed as spamming.

Also, please stop writing in all caps, this is the equivalent of yelling when online and is considered rude.

[Nena Trinity]

Let's see 16 cores at 2GHz = bad to terrible if it's a game optimized for 1 or 2 cores... (no clue if any AAA game will do fine with this maybe in the future) 

 

Umm 8 cores at 3 GHz  = will be fine in most AAA games less good than below for some games... 

 

4 cores at 4GHz = good but less good for AAA titles than above. 

 

2 cores at 5GHz = perfect for older games, may not even start AAA ones tough games made for 4 cores is playable often... 

 

TLDR there is a sweet spot. 

[Agamer1778]

3 hours ago, Agamer1778 said:

 

 

 

 

 

 BOTH ARE OF SAME GENERATION 2689 WAS NEVER RELEASED TO PUBLIC ITS AN OEM CPU BUT YOU CAN FIND USED ON ALIEXPRESS.

E5 2689:https://es.aliexpress.com/item/33025954802.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.711b72a5rlhYTX&algo_pvid=c4362c95-968e-4ebd-82fa-8c59b29451fb&algo_expid=c4362c95-968e-4ebd-82fa-8c59b29451fb-5&btsid=0ab6fb8815919578108158625e4914&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_

E5 1650:https://es.aliexpress.com/item/32799530696.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.35996ab9LI1cxq&algo_pvid=79f296f7-27f6-4b81-a27f-23f45835431d&algo_expid=79f296f7-27f6-4b81-a27f-23f45835431d-14&btsid=0ab6fab215919578549873912e56dc&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_

 

AND E5 1650 IS UNLOCKED WHILE 2689 IS NOT OVERCLOCKABLE

 

 

3 hours ago, 5x5 said:

That's a 2nd gen Xeon vs a 5th gen Xeon and both run at similar clockspeeds. Also, you can't overclock these CPUs.

In any case, the 2689 is a much better CPU

 

4 hours ago, gloop said:

I haven’t heard of much 6c/16t CPUs. 
 

what exact CPUs are we comparing?

 

4 hours ago, 5x5 said:

Without telling us the exact models, this thread might as well be a troll post.

 

4 hours ago, seon123 said:

Depends on the specific models, as "4GHz" or "2.6GHz" means absolutely nothing, due to turbo. I'm also not aware of a ton of 6 core 16 thread CPUs, so maybe check the numbers on that.

 

4 hours ago, TofuHaroto said:

What cpu ? 

There is ipc count in the conversation 

Clock speeds and core count are not the only thing that matters 

 

1 hour ago, Nena360 said:

Let's see 16 cores at 2GHz = bad to terrible if it's a game optimized for 1 or 2 cores... (no clue if any AAA game will do fine with this maybe in the future) 

 

Umm 8 cores at 3 GHz  = will be fine in most AAA games less good than below for some games... 

 

4 cores at 4GHz = good but less good for AAA titles than above. 

 

2 cores at 5GHz = perfect for older games, may not even start AAA ones tough games made for 4 cores is playable often... 

 

TLDR there is a sweet spot. 

 

2 hours ago, wkdpaul said:

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@Agamer1778

 

There's no need to post the same reply multiple times, doing so is viewed as spamming.

Also, please stop writing in all caps, this is the equivalent of yelling when online and is considered rude.

 

2 hours ago, jaslion said:

Well the e5 1650 is better for gaming but neither is great. Really depends on how much this will cost as 6 core ryzen systems that are better are available for cheap nowadays. Also those aliexpress boards do not allow overclocking due to them being a c602 chipset and not a x79 chipset which does allow those features. A lot say that they are x79 but all are just recycled c602 chipsets with added features.

 

3 hours ago, Fasauceome said:

You have to quote people or we won't get a notification for your responses

 

3 hours ago, TofuHaroto said:

Get the 1650 

It doesn't have 16 threads tho

I don't know where you got that from 

 

4 hours ago, jaslion said:

Yes that's what I meant but I'm trying to put it in simpler terms :p.

one thing I noticed that e5 2689 runs at 3293mhz in all games