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RobbyV
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Budget (including currency): $2000 CAD

Country: Canada

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Basic games like Roblox and Minecraft as well as photo and video editing.

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): I only need a monitor but that can be outside of the $2000 budget, I was thinking about an i7 for the CPU as I prefer Intel and also a RTX 2070 SUPER for the graphics card. I am upgrading from this laptop: https://www.asus.com/ca-en/Laptops/N56JN/

 

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1 minute ago, RobbyV said:

I was thinking about an i7 for the CPU as I prefer Intel

 

For a new system (not an older system with used/refurbished components from generations back), I would recommend a 3rd generation Ryzen system, currently the Ryzen CPUs are a lot better than Intel 10th generation overall and you can get more cores and threads than a similarly compared Intel 10th gen core CPU for the money.

 

For your aforementioned needs, maybe a Ryzen 7 3800X or Ryzen 9 3900X if you budget allows.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tLCD4D/amd-ryzen-9-3900x-36-ghz-12-core-processor-100-100000023box

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qryV3C/amd-ryzen-7-3800x-39-ghz-8-core-processor-100-100000025box

Hope this information post was helpful  ?,

        @Boomwebsearch 

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This would do nicely. Performance close to an i9 and a decently powerful GPU. Case and PSU with room to expand, and some nice looks

 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $428.50 @ Vuugo
Motherboard Asus PRIME X570-P ATX AM4 Motherboard $289.99 @ Amazon Canada
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory $98.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage Western Digital Blue 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $154.99 @ Newegg Canada
Video Card ASRock Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB Phantom Gaming D OC Video Card $548.50 @ Vuugo
Case NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case $118.05 @ Vuugo
Power Supply Antec NeoECO Gold ZEN 600 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply $111.56 @ Vuugo
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $1770.58
  Mail-in rebates -$20.00
  Total $1750.58
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-28 17:48 EDT-0400  

 

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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9 minutes ago, Boomwebsearch said:

 

For a new system (not an older system with used/refurbished components from generations back), I would recommend a 3rd generation Ryzen system, currently the Ryzen CPUs are a lot better than Intel 10th generation overall and you can get more cores and threads than a similarly compared Intel 10th gen core CPU for the money.

 

For your aforementioned needs, maybe a Ryzen 7 3800X or Ryzen 9 3900X if you budget allows.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tLCD4D/amd-ryzen-9-3900x-36-ghz-12-core-processor-100-100000023box

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qryV3C/amd-ryzen-7-3800x-39-ghz-8-core-processor-100-100000025box

I know that AMD is better value but I still prefer intel.

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3 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

This would do nicely. Performance close to an i9 and a decently powerful GPU. Case and PSU with room to expand, and some nice looks

 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $428.50 @ Vuugo
Motherboard Asus PRIME X570-P ATX AM4 Motherboard $289.99 @ Amazon Canada
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory $98.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage Western Digital Blue 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $154.99 @ Newegg Canada
Video Card ASRock Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB Phantom Gaming D OC Video Card $548.50 @ Vuugo
Case NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case $118.05 @ Vuugo
Power Supply Antec NeoECO Gold ZEN 600 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply $111.56 @ Vuugo
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $1770.58
  Mail-in rebates -$20.00
  Total $1750.58
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-28 17:48 EDT-0400  

 

I care about performance much more than looks and I also prefer intel.

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2 minutes ago, RobbyV said:

I care about performance much more than looks and I also prefer intel.

Performance is all there. If you go Intel, you'll have to make some sacrifices. Right now you have room for a 2080/super if you can find one, but with Intel you'll have a lower performance overall 

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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13 minutes ago, RobbyV said:

I know that AMD is better value but I still prefer intel.

9 minutes ago, RobbyV said:

I care about performance much more than looks and I also prefer intel.

 

Unless you absolutely need the maximum single-threaded performance that you can get, there's really no need to go for an Intel 10th gen Core-series CPU.

 

Ryzen 3rd gen is a ton better than Intel 10th gen at the moment (PCIe 4.0 support, 7nm manufacturing process instead of 14nm, more cores and threads for the money, lower heat output and energy consumption, etc).

Hope this information post was helpful  ?,

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here is what an Intel build would look like. Minimal performance gains for the CPU, but an extra hundred dollars which means the GPU budget has to be more limited, so less frames in your games.

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i7-10700K 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor $579.00 @ Canada Computers
Motherboard MSI MPG Z490 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1200 Motherboard $254.99 @ Memory Express
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory $98.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage Western Digital Blue 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $154.99 @ Newegg Canada
Video Card ASRock Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB Phantom Gaming D OC Video Card $548.50 @ Vuugo
Case NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case $118.05 @ Vuugo
Power Supply Antec NeoECO Gold ZEN 600 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply $111.56 @ Vuugo
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $1886.08
  Mail-in rebates -$20.00
  Total $1866.08
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-28 18:06 EDT-0400  

 

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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1 hour ago, Fasauceome said:

here is what an Intel build would look like. Minimal performance gains for the CPU, but an extra hundred dollars which means the GPU budget has to be more limited, so less frames in your games.

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i7-10700K 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor $579.00 @ Canada Computers
Motherboard MSI MPG Z490 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1200 Motherboard $254.99 @ Memory Express
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory $98.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage Western Digital Blue 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $154.99 @ Newegg Canada
Video Card ASRock Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB Phantom Gaming D OC Video Card $548.50 @ Vuugo
Case NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case $118.05 @ Vuugo
Power Supply Antec NeoECO Gold ZEN 600 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply $111.56 @ Vuugo
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $1886.08
  Mail-in rebates -$20.00
  Total $1866.08
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-28 18:06 EDT-0400  

 

That still seems pretty good, I would prefer an nvidia graphics card so maybe a 2070 super.

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6 minutes ago, RobbyV said:

That still seems pretty good, I would prefer an nvidia graphics card so maybe a 2070 super.

Forgot that the i7 doesn't include a cooler

 

With the cooler and the 2070 super, you're coming over budget

 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i7-10700K 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor $579.00 @ Canada Computers
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler $49.50 @ Vuugo
Motherboard MSI MPG Z490 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1200 Motherboard $254.99 @ Memory Express
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory $98.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage Western Digital Blue 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $154.99 @ Newegg Canada
Video Card EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB BLACK GAMING Video Card $749.00 @ Amazon Canada
Case NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case $118.05 @ Vuugo
Power Supply Antec NeoECO Gold ZEN 600 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply $119.99 @ Newegg Canada
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $2124.51
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-28 19:42 EDT-0400  

 

Again, paying more for the same performance. The 5700 XT is near identical to the 2070 super.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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35 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

Forgot that the i7 doesn't include a cooler

 

With the cooler and the 2070 super, you're coming over budget

 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i7-10700K 3.8 GHz 8-Core Processor $579.00 @ Canada Computers
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler $49.50 @ Vuugo
Motherboard MSI MPG Z490 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1200 Motherboard $254.99 @ Memory Express
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory $98.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage Western Digital Blue 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $154.99 @ Newegg Canada
Video Card EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB BLACK GAMING Video Card $749.00 @ Amazon Canada
Case NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case $118.05 @ Vuugo
Power Supply Antec NeoECO Gold ZEN 600 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply $119.99 @ Newegg Canada
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $2124.51
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-28 19:42 EDT-0400  

 

Again, paying more for the same performance. The 5700 XT is near identical to the 2070 super.

I'm maybe considering AMD but I am definitely sticking with NVIDIA for graphics.

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