3800mhz CL14 @ 1.5v vs 4400mhz CL19 @ 1.45v - which is better?

[spartacus216]

9 minutes ago, nick name said:

Then I'd snag that G.Skill kit I linked in that post.  

It's sold out unfortunately.

[spartacus216]

i thought about this set as well since they are 1.35v, do you think they would run at 4000/cl15 @ 1.5V?  https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8jZFf7/gskill-tridentz-rgb-32gb-4-x-8gb-ddr4-4000-memory-f4-4000c17q-32gtzr 

[Jurrunio]

13 minutes ago, spartacus216 said:

i thought about this set as well since they are 1.35v, do you think they would run at 4000/cl15 @ 1.5V?  https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8jZFf7/gskill-tridentz-rgb-32gb-4-x-8gb-ddr4-4000-memory-f4-4000c17q-32gtzr 

Problem is 4 sticks, which is more stresssful than 2 sticks. Also statistically, much worse than C15 at higher voltage.

[spartacus216]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

Problem is 4 sticks, which is more stresssful than 2 sticks. Also statistically, much worse than C15 at higher voltage.

I have to have 4 sticks because I need 32gb minimum

[Jurrunio]

7 minutes ago, spartacus216 said:

I have to have 4 sticks because I need 32gb minimum

2 16GB sticks are an option

[Haro]

Just now, Jurrunio said:

2 16GB sticks are an option

And they are less stress on the imc 

[spartacus216]

12 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

2 16GB sticks are an option

yeah, but the price of them is insane in comparison, if you can even find them at this speed and CL

[Haro]

2 minutes ago, spartacus216 said:

yeah, but the price of them is insane in comparison, if you can even find them at this speed and CL

What kits were you looking at 

Because 2x16 should not be that much more expensive that quad 8 gig kit 

[nick name]

Then I'd grab this kit before it's gone.

 

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232668?Item=N82E16820232668&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3a%2f%2fpcpartpicker.com%2fproduct%2frkyV3C%2fgskill-trident-z-32gb-2-x-16gb-ddr4-4000-memory-f4-4000c19d-32gtzkk&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-_I0vo2NbhP7isUuPerLlcQ

[spartacus216]

Just now, TofuHaroto said:

What kits were you looking at 

Because 2x16 should not be that much more expensive that quad 8 gig kit 

A kit at 3800/cl14 doesn't even exist in 2x16gb nor a 4000/cl15 or a 4000/cl17 even. 

[Haro]

1 minute ago, nick name said:

Then I'd grab this kit before it's gone.

 

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232668?Item=N82E16820232668&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3a%2f%2fpcpartpicker.com%2fproduct%2frkyV3C%2fgskill-trident-z-32gb-2-x-16gb-ddr4-4000-memory-f4-4000c19d-32gtzkk&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-_I0vo2NbhP7isUuPerLlcQ

It's cas latency 19 and it is not b die if I recall correctly 

Not as good of value as the other ones 

[nick name]

Just now, TofuHaroto said:

It's cas latency 19 and it is not b die if I recall correctly 

Not as good of value as the other ones 

It's b-die.

[spartacus216]

1 minute ago, nick name said:

Then I'd grab this kit before it's gone.

 

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232668?Item=N82E16820232668&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3a%2f%2fpcpartpicker.com%2fproduct%2frkyV3C%2fgskill-trident-z-32gb-2-x-16gb-ddr4-4000-memory-f4-4000c19d-32gtzkk&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-_I0vo2NbhP7isUuPerLlcQ

Not on the qvl. This is going on a z490 mb. 

[spartacus216]

Plus, if these are single rank on each stick, filling all 4 slots shouldn't make a difference I thought?

[Haro]

2 minutes ago, spartacus216 said:

Plus, if these are single rank on each stick, filling all 4 slots shouldn't make a difference I thought?

It's usually easier for the imc to over clock it since it's only dealing with 2 sticks than 4

[spartacus216]

Just now, TofuHaroto said:

It's usually easier for the imc to over clock it since it's only dealing with 2 sticks than 4

but it does matter if the sticks are single sided vs double sided.

[nick name]

16 minutes ago, spartacus216 said:

Not on the qvl. This is going on a z490 mb. 

For which board?  ASUS has it listed on their QVL so maybe whatever your board is they just haven't tested it yet.  

[spartacus216]

2 minutes ago, nick name said:

For which board?  ASUS has it listed on their QVL so maybe whatever your board is they just haven't tested it yet.  

Maximus Hero XII, that's a very old kit so they may not test it.

[nick name]

18 minutes ago, spartacus216 said:

Maximus Hero XII, that's a very old kit so they may not test it.

That's the board I looked at.  It's on the list.  

[nick name]

1 hour ago, spartacus216 said:

i thought about this set as well since they are 1.35v, do you think they would run at 4000/cl15 @ 1.5V?  https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8jZFf7/gskill-tridentz-rgb-32gb-4-x-8gb-ddr4-4000-memory-f4-4000c17q-32gtzr 

I could see that being a realistic expectation.  Do you mind spending that much?

 

Edit:

That kit isn't on the QVL though.  

[spartacus216]

6 hours ago, nick name said:

That's the board I looked at.  It's on the list.  

Those are all Double Sided Sticks and at that point, I may as well go with 4 sticks with better timings. 

[spartacus216]

I could also go down in speed but use Corsair. What do you all think about this set? https://www.amazon.com/CORSAIR-Dominator-Platinum-PC4-28800-CMT32GX4M4K3600C16/dp/B07P5GWXR4

 

It is on the QVL, it is 1.35v so I assume there's some headroom up to around 1.45v right? It is b-die as well and Single Sided and it is CL16 and around the same price.

Thoughts?

 

@nick name @TofuHaroto @Jurrunio 

[Jurrunio]

36 minutes ago, spartacus216 said:

I could also go down in speed but use Corsair. What do you all think about this set? https://www.amazon.com/CORSAIR-Dominator-Platinum-PC4-28800-CMT32GX4M4K3600C16/dp/B07P5GWXR4

 

It is on the QVL, it is 1.35v so I assume there's some headroom up to around 1.45v right? It is b-die as well and Single Sided and it is CL16 and around the same price.

Thoughts?

 

@nick name @TofuHaroto @Jurrunio 

It's no B-die, 3600 16-16-16 ones are but this kit is 16-18-18

[Guest]

37 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

It's no B-die, 3600 16-16-16 ones are but this kit is 16-18-18

I already linked the 3600 sticks.

 

Here's some reasonably priced 4266mhz B-Die. 

 

https://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9B-20-232-472&source=region&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleBiz-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleBiz-PC-_-pla-_-Memory+(Desktop+Memory)-_-9B-20-232-472&gclid=CjwKCAjw5cL2BRASEiwAENqAPh0YC5qzHXpyTxwbapTVOkXBTWQvKhSd6GckMah5nrZNQc14qdRVYRoCg5oQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

[Jurrunio]

1 minute ago, ShrimpBrime said:

I already linked the 3600 sticks.

 

Here's some reasonably priced 4266mhz B-Die. 

 

https://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9B-20-232-472&source=region&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleBiz-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleBiz-PC-_-pla-_-Memory+(Desktop+Memory)-_-9B-20-232-472&gclid=CjwKCAjw5cL2BRASEiwAENqAPh0YC5qzHXpyTxwbapTVOkXBTWQvKhSd6GckMah5nrZNQc14qdRVYRoCg5oQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

he wants 32GB of it