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Advice requested vertical mounting NVME PCIE card

emcp

I have the following rig

 

coolermaster XB HAF

old ASUS motherboard

a hot GPU

a PCIE->NVME adapter + an NVME SSD

 

If I mount things "As-is" the gpu blows directly towards the SSD.. which is also extremely hot.

 

 

 

Enter the Corsair PCIE Riser cable

 

I want to use a PCIE Riser card, and move the PCIE SSD into the underneath area of the HAF...

 

Should I safely mount the end mount of the corsair.. so it is electrically safe?  Can I tap the case somehow and put some stand offs?  

 

OR

 

Should I perhaps try to mod this corsair adapter and mount the NVME Adapter plate onto it with stand offs

 

 

 

I will also be adding a 80mm fan down stairs to help move air out of the SSDs area.

 

Thanks

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4 minutes ago, emcp said:

If I mount things "As-is" the gpu blows directly towards the SSD.. which is also extremely hot.

Where that's shown, the GPU would be pulling air in, not blowing it out.

 

The place where it's shown the last picture would be worse because you have less airflow over it than where it was originally, even with an extra fan, because you're right up against the side of the case. Honestly, unless you're hammering it constantly, the heatsink you have on it should be more than enough for normal usage.

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Network:

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                           ┌─────────────── Office/Rack ────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
Google Fiber Webpass ────── UniFi Security Gateway ─── UniFi Switch 8-60W ─┬─ UniFi Switch Flex XG ═╦═ Veda (Proxmox Virtual Switch)
(500Mbps↑/500Mbps↓)                             UniFi CloudKey Gen2 (PoE) ─┴─ Veda (IPMI)           ╠═ Veda-NAS (HW Passthrough NIC)
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║ ┌────── Closet ──────┐   ┌─────────────── Bedroom ──────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
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26 minutes ago, AbydosOne said:

Where that's shown, the GPU would be pulling air in, not blowing it out.

 

The place where it's shown the last picture would be worse because you have less airflow over it than where it was originally, even with an extra fan, because you're right up against the side of the case. Honestly, unless you're hammering it constantly, the heatsink you have on it should be more than enough for normal usage.

 
I am hammering the SSD as of now.. and the GPU + CPU coolers are quite warm (this is doing deep learning experiments).

I will mount and add an 80mm fan in the lower case shroud shown in lower area.. and I can indeed move the ssd + adapter AWAY from the wall as you suggest.

 

The SSD or Adapter get so hot or bad... the entire SSD drops from my system (could be a bad board, or SSD.. I'm testing different combinations of hardware to isolate the issue.

So again, sounds like I should 

 

1) add airflow down below

2) mount far from the case wall 

Thanks for the ideas

 

EDIT

 

Perhaps, if you can see my CPU fan situation you can recommend something that will help the temps ?  The front case fans are whatever come with the coolermaster

 

 

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22 minutes ago, emcp said:

 
I am hammering the SSD as of now.. and the GPU + CPU coolers are quite warm (this is doing deep learning experiments).

I will mount and add an 80mm fan in the lower case shroud shown in lower area.. and I can indeed move the ssd + adapter AWAY from the wall as you suggest.

 

The SSD or Adapter get so hot or bad... the entire SSD drops from my system (could be a bad board, or SSD.. I'm testing different combinations of hardware to isolate the issue.

So again, sounds like I should 

 

1) add airflow down below

2) mount far from the case wall 

Thanks for the ideas

 

EDIT

 

Perhaps, if you can see my CPU fan situation you can recommend something that will help the temps ?  The front case fans are whatever come with the coolermaster

 

 

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Mount the fan on the other side? So it exhausts air instead of dumping it in the case and coming into conflict with the airflow of the front panel?

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20 minutes ago, emcp said:

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I would at least turn the CPU cooler around and add another exhaust fan behind it. It looks like it's blowing towards the front of the case, and I assume the front fans are blowing into the case, so they're fighting each other.

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Laptop (Narrative): Lenovo Flex 5 81X20005US | Ryzen 5 4500U | 16GB RAM (soldered) | Vega 6 Graphics | SKHynix P31 1TB NVMe SSD | Intel AX200 Wifi (all-around awesome machine)

 

Proxmox Server (Veda): Ryzen 7 3800XT | AsRock Rack X470D4U | Corsair H80i v2 | 64GB Micron DDR4 ECC 3200MT/s | 4x 10TB WD Whites / 4x 14TB Seagate Exos / 2× Samsung PM963a 960GB SSD | Seasonic Prime Fanless 500W | Intel X540-T2 10G NIC | LSI 9207-8i HBA | Fractal Design Node 804 Case (side panels swapped to show off drives) | VMs: TrueNAS Scale; Ubuntu Server (PiHole/PiVPN/NGINX?); Windows 10 Pro; Ubuntu Server (Apache/MySQL)


Media Center/Video Capture (Jesta Cannon): Ryzen 5 1600X | ASRock B450M Pro4 R2.0 | Noctua NH-L12S | 16GB Crucial DDR4 3200MT/s CAS-22 | EVGA GTX750Ti SC | UMIS NVMe SSD 256GB / TEAMGROUP MS30 1TB | Corsair CX450M | Viewcast Osprey 260e Video Capture | Mellanox ConnectX-2 10G NIC | LG UH12NS30 BD-ROM | Silverstone Sugo SG-11 Case | Sony XR65A80K

 

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Network:

Spoiler
                           ┌─────────────── Office/Rack ────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
Google Fiber Webpass ────── UniFi Security Gateway ─── UniFi Switch 8-60W ─┬─ UniFi Switch Flex XG ═╦═ Veda (Proxmox Virtual Switch)
(500Mbps↑/500Mbps↓)                             UniFi CloudKey Gen2 (PoE) ─┴─ Veda (IPMI)           ╠═ Veda-NAS (HW Passthrough NIC)
╔═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╩═ Narrative (Asus USB 2.5G NIC)
║ ┌────── Closet ──────┐   ┌─────────────── Bedroom ──────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐
╚═ UniFi Switch Flex XG ═╤═ UniFi Switch Flex XG ═╦═ Byarlant
   (PoE)                 │                        ╠═ Narrative (Cable Matters USB-PD 2.5G Ethernet Dongle)
                         │                        ╚═ Jesta Cannon*
                         │ ┌─────────────── Media Center ──────────────────────────────────┐
Notes:                   └─ UniFi Switch 8 ─────────┬─ UniFi Access Point nanoHD (PoE)
═══ is Multi-Gigabit                                ├─ Sony Playstation 4 
─── is Gigabit                                      ├─ Pioneer VSX-S520
* = cable passed to Bedroom from Media Center       ├─ Sony XR65A80K (Google TV)
** = cable passed from Media Center to Bedroom      └─ Work Laptop** (Startech USB-PD Dock)

Retired/Other:

Spoiler

Laptop (Rozen-Zulu): Sony VAIO VPCF13WFX | Core i7-740QM | 8GB Patriot DDR3 | GT 425M | Samsung 850EVO 250GB SSD | Blu-ray Drive | Intel 7260 Wifi (lived a good life, retired with honor)

Testbed/Old Desktop (Kshatriya): Xeon X5470 @ 4.0GHz | ZALMAN CNPS9500 | Gigabyte EP45-UD3L | 8GB Nanya DDR2 400MHz | XFX HD6870 DD | OCZ Vertex 3 Max-IOPS 120GB | Corsair CX430M | HooToo USB 3.0 PCIe Card | Osprey 230 Video Capture | NZXT H230 Case

TrueNAS Server (La Vie en Rose): Xeon E3-1241v3 | Supermicro X10SLL-F | Corsair H60 | 32GB Micron DDR3L ECC 1600MHz | 1x Kingston 16GB SSD / Crucial MX500 500GB

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36 minutes ago, AbydosOne said:

I would at least turn the CPU cooler around and add another exhaust fan behind it. It looks like it's blowing towards the front of the case, and I assume the front fans are blowing into the case, so they're fighting each other.

 

oh wow you guys are both right.. I could have sworn I checked fan direction but this is definitely wrong.  Will fix that as well.

This all still comes back to the original question.. if I am feeling adventerous.. how do I go about properly mounting that PCIE end piece on the case.. I am guessing use either standoffs(?) or mount it somehow with thermal pads to a hdd tray down there?

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re-running now with the fan swapped to the front.. looking good... 

 

I guess I might refrain from remounting the PCIE + SSD for now, and focus on other things.  Thanks !

 

 

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