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Trying to decide between these Ryzen and i9 builds

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RGB (and looks) overkill, performance wise the 3950X is more fitting

 

2 minutes ago, Brok3n But who cares? said:

Second, go for a sabrent rocket 1tb

What's good about it?

 

2 minutes ago, Brok3n But who cares? said:

and thirdly (this is my oinion), go for the MSI x570 Pro Carbon

A steaming hot VRM with 3900X recommended for 3950X, excellent idea.

Since my last post here I've narrowed my choice down to two different builds. I'd really appreciate any advice.

 

What both builds have in common:

Aero One Eclipse RGB Mid Tower Case - Black

Gigabyte Aorus 360mm RGB Liquid CPU Cooler

Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut High Performance Thermal Paste - 1g

32GB (4x 8GB) Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO 3200MHz Memory Kit

Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11GB GAMING OC Graphics Card

Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB M.2 2280 NVMe PCIe SSD

Corsair RM750 750W 80 PLUS Gold Fully Modular PSU Power Supply

 

Where they differ:

AMD Ryzen 9 3950X (Socket AM4) w/ Gigabyte X570 AORUS ULTRA Motherboard

vs

Intel Core i9-9900K 9th Gen Processor w/ Gigabyte Z390 AORUS PRO WIFI Motherboard

 

The Intel build is definitely cheaper but I'm indecisive due to the potential benefits of the extra cores in the Ryzen build. The main purposes of this build will be gaming, recording, streaming, editing and rendering. I have a feeling that both rigs are overkill but seeing as I'm burning so much cash I just want the best performance for my rupees.

 

Thanks in advance!

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7 minutes ago, Zagrosi said:

Since my last post here I've narrowed my choice down to two different builds. I'd really appreciate any advice.

 

What both builds have in common:

Aero One Eclipse RGB Mid Tower Case - Black

Gigabyte Aorus 360mm RGB Liquid CPU Cooler

Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut High Performance Thermal Paste - 1g

32GB (4x 8GB) Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO 3200MHz Memory Kit

Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11GB GAMING OC Graphics Card

Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB M.2 2280 NVMe PCIe SSD

Corsair RM750 750W 80 PLUS Gold Fully Modular PSU Power Supply

 

Where they differ:

AMD Ryzen 9 3950X (Socket AM4) w/ Gigabyte X570 AORUS ULTRA Motherboard

vs

Intel Core i9-9900K 9th Gen Processor w/ Gigabyte Z390 AORUS PRO WIFI Motherboard

 

The Intel build is definitely cheaper but I'm indecisive due to the potential benefits of the extra cores in the Ryzen build. The main purposes of this build will be gaming, recording, streaming, editing and rendering. I have a feeling that both rigs are overkill but seeing as I'm burning so much cash I just want the best performance for my rupees.

 

Thanks in advance!

3950x with a few edits. Firstly, get a 3600mhz kit. Seriously. Second, go for a sabrent rocket 1tb (normal or the 4.0 is fine, the 4.0 is marginally faster, though) and a 2tb hdd if you'll need it (if youre video editing or something else and gaming, or game on a lot of tripl aaa's, and thirdly (this is my oinion), go for the MSI x570 Pro Carbon. Otherwise the build seems good. Why pick ryzen? It will do better in the long run, especially in anything other than games (with more cores), and It practically matches the 9900k at gaming with a light-medium OC which you could easily do with a 360mm aio, as it's about (or even less) as hot as the 3900x. The 3950x also has double the cores at only 3/2 the cost of the 9900k, so there's that. 

Either way though, you'll enjoy youre build, just one more than the other. 
Have a great day!

I am NOT a professional and a lot of the time what I'm saying is based on limited knowledge and experience. I'm going to be incorrect at times. 
My build:
CPU: 10700k Oc'd to 5.0 ghz                            GPU: RTX 3070 ventus 2x
Motherboard: Asus z490-v                                Cooler: Deepcool castle ex 120mm
Ram: Team tforce delta 32gb 3200mhz cl16     Case: Phanteks p418r (p360a ripoff) 
PSU: Apevia Prestige 800w

Notes:
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To me the 10700k seems pretty underrated. It's a very solid cpu. at 5.0ghz it draws 175-185w under full load. the Asus z490-v is a sh*t teir motherboard, I wouldn't recommend it for anything past a 10600k for light oc's only. Tforce ram is pretty but cpu cooler clearance can be an issue on them, so beware. the RTX 3070 is obviously a great card, but the ventus 2x is just horrible. Don't buy it, not now, not ever. It's flimsy af, you can't increase the stock power limit, the cooler is worse than the one on the 3070FE. If it's a choice between this and nothing, choose nothing. The deepcool castle ex 120mm isn't really on sale outside of prebuilts, but it's a nice pretty cooler, gets my 10700k up to 96c after a prime95 cpu test for 15 minutes. The p418r is basically what it looks like. P360a, slap a few cyberpowerpc logos on it, and you're golden. The Apevia Prestige 800w is bad, but not terrible. Runs respectably quiet and isn't a bomb. More than a lot of PSU's in prebuilts can claim.

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RGB (and looks) overkill, performance wise the 3950X is more fitting

 

2 minutes ago, Brok3n But who cares? said:

Second, go for a sabrent rocket 1tb

What's good about it?

 

2 minutes ago, Brok3n But who cares? said:

and thirdly (this is my oinion), go for the MSI x570 Pro Carbon

A steaming hot VRM with 3900X recommended for 3950X, excellent idea.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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7 minutes ago, Brok3n But who cares? said:

 

I'm having this computer pre-built and the company I'm ordering from don't have 3600MHz RAM in stock! I know, not building it myself is despicable and I have built PCs myself before, but I get a really good deal with business expenses this way. As for the RAM speed argument itself, I watched Linus's video on RAM speeds on Ryzen builds and the differences beyond 3200MHz seemed marginal and over-exaggerated; am I missing something here?

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2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

 

Thanks. Do you think that the difference between 3600MHz and 3200MHz RAM would be significant on a build like this?

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2 minutes ago, Zagrosi said:

Thanks. Do you think that the difference between 3600MHz and 3200MHz RAM would be significant on a build like this?

4x8GB 3600MHz may need manual tuning in order to work, if you cant even build the system yourself I doubt your ability to fix that... Just stick to 3200MHz

 

performance increase will be heavily task dependent, could go up to 20% in best case but usually will be within 5%

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Why 9900K or 3950X? The 3900X comes in at a similar or lower price than the 9900K, offers 50% more cores and has similar single-threaded performance.

Desktop: Intel Core i9-9900K | ASUS Strix Z390-F | G.Skill Trident Z Neo 2x16GB 3200MHz CL14 | EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER XC Ultra | Corsair RM650x | Fractal Design Define R6

Laptop: 2018 Apple MacBook Pro 13"  --  i5-8259U | 8GB LPDDR3 | 512GB NVMe

Peripherals: Leopold FC660C w/ Topre Silent 45g | Logitech MX Master 3 & Razer Basilisk X HyperSpeed | HIFIMAN HE400se & iFi ZEN DAC | Audio-Technica AT2020USB+

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Just now, Mateyyy said:

 

I feel like it's closet brand loyalty...

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