Gaming and working from home build

[Leng]

Good morning everyone, 

 

With a post in another sub forum I think I have come to a decision on which case to get, and most likely going with the Phanteks Eclipse P600S. Still looking at Meshify S2 and Dark Base 700 and Silent Base 601 as well from be quiet! I am about to put this build together, as in finalise the list and start ordering parts, have not done a full build since 2012. To get any good input I will give a crap ton of information! 

 

Parts wise: I am confident on MB (Asus X570-E), CPU (Ryzen 9 3900X), RAM (G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32GB 3600Mhz/CAS 16) and while I have a good cooler in my current desktop I think I will go with liquid for the possibly slightly decreased noise during CPU usage. I also want good airflow because I am air-cooling the GPU (not fully made a decision on which to get) and only later, let's say in 2-3 years go full custom loop. 

 

1. Budget & Location

4000$AUD or more, less will also be okay  Location is of course Australia

2. Aim

See further down, work and gaming

3. Monitors

2k 144Hz, either 2 or potentially 3 at some later stage

4. Peripherals

No. Might, but this thread is not about this.

5. Why are you upgrading?

Hate my GPU, want a Ryzen 9 3900X, problems with current case, thermals not ideal currently, don't think I can run a Valve Index on current specs. 

 

Usage cases for this PC currently planned:

 

Work including:

• Cloud software
• Video editing
• Data transfers to and from QNAP NAS
• MS Office
• Tiny bit of coding

Gaming in no particular order:

• Red Dead Redemption 2
• EVE Online
• Monster Hunter: World
• ANNO 1800
• Diablo III and Diablo IV later
• Witcher series
• RUST
• Games that probably run on a Raspberry Pi

Also thinking of buying a Valve Index for Half Life Alyx later, not really feasible with my current specs. My build is a bit overkill, and the GPU looks too weak for the build, I am thinking of potentially getting a Big Navi or RTX 3xxx at some stage, maybe as soon as in 1-2 years. Hate my current GPU and both GPU/CPU are getting hot enough to cook family sized meals on with my current build. (it probably needs thermal paste reapplication)

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor	$742.63 @ Amazon Australia
CPU Cooler	NZXT Kraken X73 73.11 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	$299.00 @ BudgetPC
Motherboard	Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard	$499.00 @ Centre Com
Memory	G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	$322.30 @ Newegg Australia
Storage	Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$319.00 @ Amazon Australia
Storage	Gigabyte AORUS NVMe Gen4 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$395.00 @ Amazon Australia
Video Card	Asus GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB STRIX GAMING Video Card
Case	Phanteks ECLIPSE P600S ATX Mid Tower Case	$259.00 @ PCCaseGear
Power Supply	EVGA SuperNOVA P2 850 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$283.00 @ I-Tech
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$3118.93
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-30 09:43 AEST+1000

Below is my current PC at home which I am writing this from! (I also have a work laptop but mainly using it now when I want something portable to take out to the garden, laptop is usually plugged into my Toshiba Dynadock at the office. I want my home office setup to be vastly superior. 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4 GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Cooler	Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler	$155.00 @ BudgetPC
Motherboard	Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard
Memory	Corsair Vengeance Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR3-2133 Memory
Storage	Samsung 840 EVO 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Storage	Samsung 850 Pro Series 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$635.00 @ I-Tech
Video Card	Asus Radeon R9 290 4 GB DirectCU II Video Card
Case	Nanoxia Deep Silence 1 ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply	EVGA SuperNOVA G2 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$790.00
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-16 18:24 AEST+1000

Questions:

• Any incompatibilities you can see? With liquid cooling the RAM clearance should not be a problem, I also am a little frightened putting any CPU cooler on with proper amount of paste due to my being a little older than in 2012... 
• Storage, I might pop at least one of the SSD from the old build into the new, but maybe keep the old build for something or sell it. On reviews the Samsung does offers equal or better results than the more expensive PCI4 SSD. I am not worried about having too little storage, also have a 4TB external USB3. What should I get, maybe just the Samsung and not get the Gigabyte? I think the board has slots for 2 M2, will confirm before I order haha. Maybe get 2 Samsung of this mentioned spec? Any real cause to get the Gigabyte? Heard a lot of good things about Samsung, price is not a consideration, this is not a budget build.
• GPU, probably my biggest item that I would like advice on, I could get a 2080Ti but I'd rather not. If anything I would prefer a Big Navi or RTX30xx later. I do want a card that runs significantly cooler than my current build which can get in the 90°C range. Thermal paste on both my CPU and GPU on current PC will need redoing which may be the cause for my bad temps. Do I get a 2070S, what is the best performance to thermal performance/noise level card I can buy for money in this space? I think they are all air cooled, the ones in stock anyway. Still considering the 5700XT but not really sure. I am thinking of checking RTX and Gsync and that sorta stuff. I had am AMD Radeon die on me before my current GPU as well. I might delve deeper into GPU in another thread as well. 
•  PSU, I am going off tier lists and the like here as well, any pointers would be appreciated about brands, I want to go higher than Gold rated because I can. EVGA has done well on that front as its been a wonderful unit, the one I currently have. (Could also reuse it and buy a cheap one for my old PC, but its a bit dusty.. god I am an awful person.)
• Do the parts make sense? Anything completely silly on this build? 
• How would you rate it as in easiness of building it? I will watch a lot of videos to be well prepared.
• OS: Intend to buy a copy of Windows 10 Pro from ebay... That's what I did to upgrade my Windows 10 Home work laptop to Windows 10 Pro. I might also run Manjaro on the PC again, currently running  Windows 10Home and Linux Mint on the Home PC and W10Pro and Manjaro on the work laptop. (I am still very new to Linux)
• Contingency: Please suggest something that be extremely similar if items seem to be hard to get in Australia, worried about stocklevels of the RAM and SSD and GPU's in particular

 

That's it for me, any more tips&tricks and everything you have, give it to me! Thanks for being awesome! Leng over and out. 

[dizmo]

• Why wouldn't you reuse some of your old build? Still has plenty of usable parts.
• I'd try holding off on the video card front until the newer stuff comes out personally.
• That's way too much for a PSU. Both in wattage and price.
• Building a PC is about as hard as building a beginner Lego set.

[Leng]

I will reuse SSD, and probably put in an old HDD i have into the old PC. Just want to add at least 1 or 2 SSD that are faster and not SATA. CPU cooler, I would prefer to liquid cool it as I think it will possibly be a tad quieter and look neater, the current air cooler is meant to be best of the best but also does look ugly. (I assume it cannot possibly be the reason for my bad CPU temps at the moment.) 

 

The case, now the case... With the front door closed, thermals are not great. The case has an airflow chimney. My cats love to close it up when I have it open for gaming. 

 

The most likely candidate for reuse is of course the PSU, it is fully modular (requirement for me) and also high enough wattage and I could buy a cheap 650W Bronze for the old PC. Am i being unreasonable if I want something better than 80+ Gold? You tell me!  Also keep in mind prices are of course in Australian dollaridoos.

 

Nothing else makes sense to re-use at all... 

 

I do want a new GPU, but if I stick it in my current build it will be majorly held back by a lot of other components... at least that is what I think. 

[YT_DomDaBomb20]

16 hours ago, Leng said:

Storage Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $319.00 @ Amazon Australia Storage Gigabyte AORUS NVMe Gen4 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $395.00 @ Amazon Australia

You chose the two most expensive 1tb ssd’s available 

[YT_DomDaBomb20]

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor	$739.00 @ Shopping Express
CPU Cooler	Fractal Design Celsius S36 87.6 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	$209.00 @ Newegg Australia
Motherboard	Gigabyte X570 GAMING X ATX AM4 Motherboard	$299.00 @ Computer Alliance
Memory	G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	$328.90 @ Newegg Australia
Storage	Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$169.00 @ Shopping Express
Storage	Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$169.00 @ Shopping Express
Storage	Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$88.00 @ Newegg Australia
Video Card	Asus GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB STRIX GAMING Video Card
Case	Phanteks ECLIPSE P600S ATX Mid Tower Case	$259.00 @ PCCaseGear
Power Supply	EVGA SuperNOVA P2 850 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$283.00 @ I-Tech
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$2543.90
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-01 03:28 AEST+1000

 

[SavageNeo]

Hey! For your budget you can get 3950x. 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 3.5 GHz 16-Core Processor	$1199.00 @ Shopping Express
CPU Cooler	be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler	$139.00 @ PCCaseGear
Motherboard	Asus PRIME X570-P ATX AM4 Motherboard	$289.00 @ Shopping Express
Memory	OLOy 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	$237.60 @ Newegg Australia
Storage	ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$276.10 @ Newegg Australia
Storage	Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$88.00 @ Newegg Australia
Case	Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case	$157.30 @ Newegg Australia
Power Supply	Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$195.00 @ Skycomp Technology
Case Fan	ARCTIC P12 Value Pack 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fans	$46.80 @ Amazon Australia
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$2627.80
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-01 04:07 AEST+1000

 

[Leng]

@YT_DomDaBomb20

 

Yes the SSD are not cheap, I do have the money and I might just get one of them, I had a Crucial die on me a while ago, I think I like Samsung, the Gigabyte I am not so sure about. I also have the 2 older SSD in my current build so I would probably stick them in there as well. Just want one that is insanely fast.  Also do not need an internal HDD that is not an SSD, I have one that I will leave in the old PC and I also have a 4TB external WD something lying around. 

 

That Fractal cooler looks good, a lot cheaper than my NZXT, I have no idea what to look for in the perfect 360mm rad AIO really, to be honest. 

 

You changed the Mainboard too, I just sort of went by the tier list, and MB is not something I want to upgrade too often. Still running with LGA1155 MB at this stage haha. Have you got good experiences with that board or think the one I choose is utterly unnecessary? Do you have experience with that Fractal AIO cooler or how to choose a good one? 

 

@SavageNeo 

 

I agree I could get the 3950X, but I think its probably not worth the extra money for me personally because there will always be upgrades anyway, 4xxx is coming out this year hopefully. My GPU is also underpowered because I may upgrade to a RTX 3XXX or the Big Navi AMD CPU at some later stage. How does the PRIME MB compare to the one I choose, I just went with tier lists on this LTT basically, and choose the imho best one that made sense for me and the 3900X. 

 

The memory is only 18CAS, the one I chose is 16 so will definitely stay with that I think, not really sure if it will make a difference sometime in the future for my video editing or something, but that's my opinion on there. 

 

To all the other people in this forum: 

 

I assume with not getting a lot of answers that everything else is okay with my build? I intend to change the case to the O11D, hope it all fits haha. Just have to figure out some other stuff, which fans and where to put them, and where to mount my AIO radiator, at the site or on the top?