1440p 144hz target for 2000-ish

[JULIUSMCGRUPP]

Hey all, 

 

Just wondering if this build is stupid for my target of 144hz/1440p gaming with every title totally maxed out graphically.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor	$434.00 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler	Corsair H100i RGB PLATINUM 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	$159.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard	$199.99 @ Amazon
Memory	Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$94.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$179.99 @ Amazon
Video Card	EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB BLACK GAMING Video Card	$699.99 @ Walmart
Case	Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case	$98.99 @ Walmart
Power Supply	Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$124.99 @ Best Buy
Monitor	Asus ROG SWIFT PG278QR 27.0" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor	$449.00 @ B&H
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$2441.93
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-11 15:21 EDT-0400

I haven’t built in a while, and I want this build to be future proof and be able to handle the target for future titles into the next gen of consoles and whatnot. It seems like overkill compared to a lot of the builds going for the same target that I see on here, but again I want to be future proof to some extent.

 

Thanks a lot for looking And any suggestions would be welcome!

[Mazdaspeeding]

You'll want to pick a different motherboard.  The cheaper MSI X570 motherboards can't quite handle a 3900x/3950x powerwise.  They were the subject of the recent Hardware Unboxed/Toms "Just Buy It!" Hardware scrape.  

 

 

I suggest the Gigabyte Aorus Elite Wifi or the Asrock X570 Steel Legend Wifi.  Others will no doubt recommend the Asus X570 TUF Wifi but I'm not a fan of it's realtek NIC.

[kelvinhall05]

Yeah looks like a good build but I would:

1. Go for an air cooler

2. Get a smaller SSD and big HDD instead of big, expensive SSD

[Metallus97]

That seems pretty decent. 

However idd go for air cooling (Noctuaaaaa) cheaper, same perf, sometimes more silent and will hold up much longer.

BOSS but brown: https://noctua.at/de/products/cpu-cooler-retail/nh-u12a, Black and fat (check case compatibility) https://noctua.at/de/products/cpu-cooler-retail/nh-d15-chromax-black
Take cheaper but 3600Mhz RAM. Will get you a bit more out of your 3900x (more than 3600Mhz wont help much). I know those corsair sticks are sexy but good old trident z will do the job cheaper.

Mobo: EDIT: I am silly I read that it was the B450 EDIT

9 minutes ago, Mazdaspeeding said:

You'l want to pick a different motherboard.  The cheaper MSI X570 motherboards can't quite handle a 3900x/3950x.

This is the best B450 board and it can do the 3900x (no OCing). If OP doesn't need the extra features of x570 there is nothing wrong with a B450 board.

If you want to get every little bit out of the 3900x and possible future even stronger CPUs idd recommend a x570 MOBO.

yes this MOBO is trash. Get a Gigabyte!

SSD: Samsung is good but expensive. I run a silicon power A80 and the Samsung 970. Perf is nearly identical and the A80 cheaper. Well but I somehow trust the Samsung more. So thats up to you

 

PSU: Cheaper and better ones available. However I also run crosair PSUs. I trust them and the warranty is pretty decent

[5x5]

Let me fix that.

[Mazdaspeeding]

2 minutes ago, Metallus97 said:

 

Mobo:

 

This is the best B450 board and it can do the 3900x. If OP doesn't need the extra features of x570 there is nothing wrong with a B450 board.

 

 

MSI's B450 motherboards are alright.  MSI x570 motherboards are mostly trash and the specific board OP chose is known to have it's VRMs overheat with a 3900x installed.

 

 

[5x5]

That's why we're going with the best value X570 board - the Asus TuF

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($294.48 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($189.99 @ Best Buy)
Memory: Team T-FORCE DARK Za 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  ($78.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA XPG SX6000 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB VENTUS GP Video Card  ($1059.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  ($98.99 @ Walmart)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($128.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus ROG SWIFT PG278QR 27.0" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor  ($449.00 @ B&H)
Total: $2430.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-11 15:39 EDT-0400

[Mazdaspeeding]

Both the Asrock x570 Steel Legend wifi and Gigabyte x570 Aorus Elite wifi are both better values than the Asus x570 TUF.  Asus TUF uses realtek nic when everyone else is using Intel NIC.  Asus is famous for reserving features for the ROG line that everyone else includes standard on their boards. 

[Metallus97]

4 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

That's why we're going with the best value X570 board - the Asus TuF

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($294.48 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($189.99 @ Best Buy)
Memory: Team T-FORCE DARK Za 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  ($78.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA XPG SX6000 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB VENTUS GP Video Card  ($1059.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  ($98.99 @ Walmart)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($128.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus ROG SWIFT PG278QR 27.0" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor  ($449.00 @ B&H)
Total: $2430.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-11 15:39 EDT-0400

I dont think thats the best value. Buildzoid hated the VRM on it if I remember correctly...

Your changes: 

RAM: yes!

Storage: yes, idd go with A80, is this one also physon based?

GPU/CPU: OP only gaming? Then yes. If he is doing anything else or streams: Keep the super and the 3900x

[Mateyyy]

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$294.48 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler	Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black 55 CFM CPU Cooler	$69.95 @ Amazon
Motherboard	Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard	$189.99 @ Best Buy
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	$84.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Sabrent Rocket 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$149.97 @ Amazon
Video Card	NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB Video Card	$699.99 @ Best Buy
Case	Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case	$98.99 @ Walmart
Power Supply	Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$128.99 @ Newegg
Monitor	Asus ROG SWIFT PG278QR 27.0" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor	$449.00 @ B&H
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$2166.35
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-11 15:41 EDT-0400

You really won't notice much of any improvement with a 3900X compared to a 3700X just in gaming, so if that's all you're planning on doing then you can save some money with that.

MSI's entry to mid level X570 boards should be avoided, chose a less expensive but still very good SSD, and also a slightly better PSU.

[Metallus97]

Just now, Mazdaspeeding said:

Both the Asrock x570 Steel Legend and Gigabyte Aorus Elite are both better values than the Asus TUF.  Asus TUF uses realtek nic when everyone else is using Intel NIC.  Asus is famous for reserving features for the ROG line that everyone else includes standard.

yep. Idd go with Aorus Elite. But between those to its pretty much personal taste.

[Guest]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($294.48 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler  ($47.03 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($209.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($72.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($119.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card  ($719.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  ($98.99 @ Walmart) 
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($128.99 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: Gigabyte AORUS FI27Q-SA 27.0" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor  ($494.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $2187.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-11 15:45 EDT-0400

[Metallus97]

Just now, Mateyyy said:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$294.48 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler	Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black 55 CFM CPU Cooler	$69.95 @ Amazon
Motherboard	Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard	$189.99 @ Best Buy
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	$84.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Sabrent Rocket 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$149.97 @ Amazon
Video Card	NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB Video Card	$699.99 @ Best Buy
Case	Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case	$98.99 @ Walmart
Power Supply	Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$128.99 @ Newegg
Monitor	Asus ROG SWIFT PG278QR 27.0" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor	$449.00 @ B&H
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$2166.35
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-11 15:41 EDT-0400

You really won't notice much of any improvement with a 3900X compared to a 3700X just in gaming, so if that's all you're planning on doing then you can save some money with that.

MSI's entry to mid level X570 boards should be avoided, chose a less expensive but still very good SSD, and also a slightly better PSU.

Only if OP ONLY games. If he is doing creative work or streaming he will be better of with 2080s and 3900x

RAM and SSD: yes, Idd go with A80 for the SSD but thats irrelevant

[5x5]

2 minutes ago, Metallus97 said:

yep. Idd go with Aorus Elite. But between those to its pretty much personal taste.

The Aorus Elite has had major BIOS fuck-ups. I'd personally avoid it. The Asus board really has the most functional and stable BIOS from the entry-level X570 ones. VRMs are also capable of handling an overclocked 3900X so I'd say it's perfectly good for a 3700X

[Metallus97]

1 minute ago, lee32uk said:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($294.48 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler  ($47.03 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($209.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($72.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($119.99 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card  ($719.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  ($98.99 @ Walmart) 
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($128.99 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: Gigabyte AORUS FI27Q-SA 27.0" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor  ($494.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $2187.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-11 15:45 EDT-0400

Is that the new WD Blue? The old ones were trash. I think the A80 is still better for a cheap SSD

[Mazdaspeeding]

Asus has had plenty of BIOS fuck-ups as well.  As it stands the TUF is a budget board trying to masquerade as a midrange board.  Any B450/X570 motherboard *should* handle a 3950X and the fact that some MSI boards don't is a major red flag.

Edited April 11, 2020 by Mazdaspeeding

[Metallus97]

3 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

The Aorus Elite has had major BIOS fuck-ups. I'd personally avoid it. The Asus board really has the most functional and stable BIOS from the entry-level X570 ones. VRMs are also capable of handling an overclocked 3900X so I'd say it's perfectly good for a 3700X

But the Fups are over. BIOS is good now. My buddy has that board. 

Yes 3700x will be fine on the TUF. But why buy such a cut down board if you can get something better for the same price?

ASUS makes you pay for the brand bro (no hate, writing this on a x570 STRIX E)

[Metallus97]

1 minute ago, Mazdaspeeding said:

Asus has had plenty of BIOS fuck-ups as well.  As it stands the TUF is a budget board trying to masquerade as a midrange board.  Any B450/X570 motherboard *should* handle a 3950X and the fact that some MSI boards don't is a major red flag.

THIS! Because it is GaMeR and TuF MadaFa.....

It is basically an Asus entry level board with some bling 

[5x5]

2 minutes ago, Metallus97 said:

But the Fups are over. BIOS is good now. My buddy has that board. 

Yes 3700x will be fine on the TUF. But why buy such a cut down board if you can get something better for the same price?

ASUS makes you pay for the brand bro (no hate, writing this on a x570 STRIX E)

I've seen recent reports of Gigabye X570 and Z390 issues. I'll continue to recommend against them until I stop hearing about broken BIOSes for at least a month

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Metallus97 said:

Is that the new WD Blue? The old ones were trash. I think the A80 is still better for a cheap SSD

No idea how new it is, but it is good enough for a gaming pc. You get a 5 year warranty on it. The Silicon A80 is listed at $129.99 so $10 more.

[Mateyyy]

6 minutes ago, Metallus97 said:

Only if OP ONLY games. If he is doing creative work or streaming he will be better of with 2080s and 3900x

Just based what I said on OP's post. Also, for streaming it'd probably be smarted to use NVENC anyway.

[Metallus97]

1 minute ago, 5x5 said:

I've seen recent reports of Gigabye X570 and Z390 issues. I'll continue to recommend against them until I stop hearing about broken BIOSes for at least a month

Well I understand that but I cant find much guys reporting problems with the newer BIOS versions...
Ill stick with my recommendation of the elite, but steel legend is also an option.

[5x5]

1 hour ago, Mazdaspeeding said:

-SNIP-

Insults won't get you far when arguing over anything. Grow up.

 

1 hour ago, Metallus97 said:

Well I understand that but I cant find much guys reporting problems with the newer BIOS versions...
Ill stick with my recommendation of the elite, but steel legend is also an option.

I'd say Steel Legend or Pro4 if he wants to save a buck are good options too. ASRock has been solid with AM4

Edited April 11, 2020 by W-L
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[Metallus97]

Just now, Mateyyy said:

Just based what I said on OP's post. Also, for streaming it'd probably be smarted to use NVENC anyway.

yeha but it will still stress the CPU. And IF op does get into the whole streaming and video stuff it wont hurt to have multitasking power. But sure gaming only (and occasional streaming): 3700x and 2800ti

[Metallus97]

1 minute ago, Mazdaspeeding said:

Until I hear Bulgaria has no crime for a month, I won't recommend people go on vacation there.  

 

 

What a silly thing to say.

 

Just now, 5x5 said:

Insults won't get you far when arguing over anything. Grow up.

 

I'd say Steel Legend or Pro4 if he wants to save a buck are good options too. ASRock has been solid with AM4

CHILLLL bros! Everyone has different taste and opinion

 

But yeha Pro4 is also an solid option.