ADVICE NEEDED - I7 9700K VS RYZEN 7 3800X

[TalElmishali]

Hello,

I'am looking for a computer upgrade and started to look for my options. 

I build two different systems one with Intel CPU and the other with AMD.

 

I am using Intel CPU's for the past 20 years now and really fixate on them.

The system is design to support general use, editing, coding. 

Nothing to heavy or games.

 

The two system cost came to a $17 difference. So money is not much of a factor in this decision.

Obviously what most concern me is the CPU&Motherboard combination on both systems, which one will give me more stability with overclocking and.

 

Intel : https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RcgtHB

AMD: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xny4wh

 

Thank you in advance for your time and knowledge!

 

[boggy77]

you can get the 3700x and overclock it to reach the same performance as the 3800x. it will turn out cheaper and more powerful for editing than the intel cpu due to multithreading.

[MartinKweh]

the higher threadcount of the 3800x makes it a better performer than the i7 9700k. though if you are going that route, the 3700x is more cost efficient. but if money is not an issue, just jump straight to the 3900x as that will vastly outperform that i7 9700k in workstation (except in adobe. idk why though)

[.Apex.]

On 4/8/2020 at 5:11 PM, TalElmishali said:

I am using Intel CPU's for the past 20 years now and really fixate on them.

The system is design to support general use, editing, coding. 

Nothing to heavy or games.

 

The two system cost came to a $17 difference. So money is not much of a factor in this decision.

Obviously what most concern me is the CPU&Motherboard combination on both systems, which one will give me more stability with overclocking and.

 

Intel : https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RcgtHB

AMD: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xny4wh

Intel is far behind in everything else and is only edging it slightly in gaming when comparing similar price points, for your type of usage an AMD system would be more appropriate.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor	$439.99 @ B&H
CPU Cooler	Noctua NH-D15 CHROMAX.BLACK 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler	$99.00
Motherboard	Asus PRIME X570-P ATX AM4 Motherboard	$147.00 @ B&H
Memory	G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$164.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$219.99 @ B&H
Storage	Seagate BarraCuda Pro 6 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$224.99 @ Adorama
Case	Corsair Carbide Series 275R ATX Mid Tower Case	$73.99 @ Best Buy
Case Fan	Noctua NF-A14 PWM chromax.black.swap 82.52 CFM 140 mm Fan	$25.00
Case Fan	Noctua NF-A14 PWM chromax.black.swap 82.52 CFM 140 mm Fan	$25.00
Case Fan	Noctua NF-A12X15 PWM CHROMAX.BLACK.SWAP 55.44 CFM 120 mm Fan	$25.00
	Total	$1444.95

 

Swapped the motherboard and put in a 3900X, that's a 12 Core CPU.

[nick name]

Are the 3900X still on sale?  They were about $100 more than a 3700X on sale.  

[Guest]

Buy some Arctic P12/14 fans instead of those expensive Noctua ones. You can also get cheaper storage than Samsung who are also overpriced. An Adata SX8200 pro, Sabrent Rocket or HP EX920/950 etc.

[TalElmishali]

Any thoughts about the Motherboards, stability and overclocking? 

I am relay happy with my current Gigabyte which is one reason for me picking those motherboards.

As well read good reviews for those VRM's.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, TalElmishali said:

Any thoughts about the Motherboards, stability and overclocking? 

I am relay happy with my current Gigabyte which is one reason for me picking those motherboards.

As well read good reviews for those VRM's.

The Gigabyte boards are fine in both lists. 

[find_better_name_later]

If you go AMD, you would need to pick up a discrete graphics card, as Ryzen 7 and 9 do not have integrated graphics.

However, the i7-9700k has integrated graphics.

 

You could use a 3700x instead of a 3800x and use some of the $130 you save in getting a cheap graphics card just for a video output. The 3700x can be overclocked to match the performance of the 3800x, since you have a good cooler.

 

I wouldn't buy the i7-9700k because it is more expensive than the 3700x, and not as powerful.

[BiG StroOnZ]

Here's what I came up with; I did many of the aforementioned tweaks/adjustments in this thread to bring the cost down (so you could get more bang for your buck):

 

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PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$298.99 @ B&H
CPU Cooler	be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler	$86.46 @ B&H
Motherboard	MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard	$114.99 @ B&H
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	$159.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$109.99 @ B&H
Storage	Crucial BX500 2 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$199.99 @ B&H
Storage	Seagate IronWolf NAS 6 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$141.99 @ Newegg
Case	Corsair Carbide Series 275R ATX Mid Tower Case	$73.99 @ Best Buy
Case Fan	ARCTIC P14 PWM 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fan	$13.98 @ Newegg
Case Fan	ARCTIC P14 PWM 72.8 CFM 140 mm Fan	$13.98 @ Newegg
Case Fan	ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan	$7.99 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1222.34
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-08 11:52 EDT-0400

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3wdDf9

 

 

In comparison to the systems you had made (OP), you are saving; $233.61 compared to your original AMD build, and $250.61 compared to your original Intel build. I did a lot of the recommendations other forum members had made in this thread to reduce the total costs. Firstly, the performance difference between an NH-D15 and a Dark Rock Pro 4 is negligible (but you are saving nearly $15, and retaining a similar aesthetic). I also additionally saw that for practically the same amount of money, you could get a significantly better storage setup than you had in both systems (3TB of SSD storage vs only 1TB with your builds. Plus here, you gain 2TB more overall; 9TB vs 7TB). Lastly, with this build, you get a better Memory/Ram kit as well (faster kit [3600MHz vs 3200MHz], but for less money).

 

I don't see anywhere PSU (Power Supply) or GPU (Video Card) recommendations being included, but both of those will be needed too. Unless, you are planning on recycling both from an older system (not normally recommend with PSUs, depending on age). 

[TalElmishali]

On 4/8/2020 at 11:54 AM, you have the corona virus said:

If you go AMD, you would need to pick up a discrete graphics card, as Ryzen 7 and 9 do not have integrated graphics.

However, the i7-9700k has integrated graphics.

 

You could use a 3700x instead of a 3800x and use some of the $130 you save in getting a cheap graphics card just for a video output. The 3700x can be overclocked to match the performance of the 3800x, since you have a good cooler.

 

I wouldn't buy the i7-9700k because it is more expensive than the 3700x, and not as powerful.

Thank you very much! I do have a graphic card I am going to use.

On 4/8/2020 at 12:05 PM, BiG StroOnZ said:

Here's what I came up with; I did many of the aforementioned tweaks/adjustments in this thread to bring the cost down (so you could get more bang for your buck):

 

 

In comparison to the systems you had made (OP), you are saving; $233.61 compared to your original AMD build, and $250.61 compared to your original Intel build. I did a lot of the recommendations other forum members had made in this thread to reduce the total costs. Firstly, the performance difference between a NH-D15 and a Dark Rock Pro 4 is negligible (but you are saving nearly $15, and retaining a similar aesthetic). I also additionally saw that for practically the same amount of money, you could get a significantly better storage setup than you had in both systems (3TB of SSD storage vs only 1TB with your builds. Plus here, you gain 2TB more overall; 9TB vs 7TB). Lastly, with this build, you get a better Memory/Ram kit as well (faster kit [3600MHz vs 3200MHz], but for less money).

 

I don't see anywhere PSU (Power Supply) or GPU (Video Card) recommendations being included, but both of those will be needed too. Unless, you are planning on recycling both from an older system (not normally recommend with PSUs, depending on age). 

Thank you very much for the detailed answer! I do have graphic card and PSU which is only year and half old.