B450 or X570?

[StepDice]

So at the moment I have an a320m s2h with a Ryzen 5 2600 and a rx 5700xt,  with 16gb ddr4 2666. I am saving up and nearly ready to upgrade my cpu and motherboard. I had in mind a ryzen 7 3700x (as 3800x doesn’t seem to be worth it) and I want to upgrade the motherboard. Should I go for an x570 for the pcie 4 support for my graphics card or should I get a b450. Keep in mind that I may upgrade my memory to 4x8gb ddr4 at a higher clock speed since it’s a 3rd gen ryzen. Thanks guys

[boggy77]

i would say wait for ryzen 4000 series and the b550 boards

[Chiyawa]

If you have the money, go for X570 mobo.

 

Well, I don't really recommend b450 for Ryzen 3000 series (more so with Ryzen 7 3700X and above) because the mobo VRM may not able to supply enough power for the CPU, if you are overclocking it.

 

In any case, I should have ask you what is your motherboard of choice. Different motherboard from different manufacturer and model provides different features and different VRM capability.

[flashiling]

Just now, Chiyawa said:

If you have the money, go for X570 mobo.

 

Well, I don't really recommend b450 for Ryzen 3000 series (more so with Ryzen 7 3700X and above) because the mobo VRM may not able to supply enough power for the CPU, if you are overclocking it.

 

In any case, I should have ask you what is your motherboard of choice. Different motherboard from different manufacturer and model provides different features and different VRM capability.

this really depends on the b450 board.

some cheap b450 might not be the best pairing but many should be sufficient enough for it.

[IAmAndre]

3 minutes ago, flashiling said:

this really depends on the b450 board.

some cheap b450 might not be the best pairing but many should be sufficient enough for it.

I second that. For instance the MSI B450 Tomahawk can handle an OC Ryzen 9 no problem.

[Chiyawa]

Just now, flashiling said:

this really depends on the b450 board.

some cheap b450 might not be the best pairing but many should be sufficient enough for it.

Quite true. That's why I am requesting for more info on the motherboard the OP (Original Poster) wanted to use.

But in any case, I believe that with that powerful processor, pairing with B450 is a waste, as you lose the PCIe 4.0 capability, and the chipset only provides PCIe 2.0. Not a big deal, but still.

[StepDice]

12 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

i would say wait for ryzen 4000 series and the b550 boards

Is that coming soon?

[StepDice]

3 minutes ago, Chiyawa said:

Quite true. That's why I am requesting for more info on the motherboard the OP (Original Poster) wanted to use.

But in any case, I believe that with that powerful processor, pairing with B450 is a waste, as you lose the PCIe 4.0 capability, and the chipset only provides PCIe 2.0. Not a big deal, but still.

I want any motherboard which people suggest tbh, gigabyte, ASUs, whatever.

i wouldn’t mind not having pcie4 but at least pcie 3

[StepDice]

7 minutes ago, IAmAndre said:

I second that. For instance the MSI B450 Tomahawk can handle an OC Ryzen 9 no problem.

Someone commented about 4th gen ryzen should I think about that, is that near future?

[boggy77]

14 minutes ago, StepDice said:

Is that coming soon?

i would say end of the year, but might get delayed due tot he virus.

[paddy-stone]

NO, IIRC all b450 boards are pcie 3.0, think that might have been a typo by the dude above.

 

[edit] was wrong apparently, learn something new every day, LOL

[Chiyawa]

8 minutes ago, StepDice said:

Someone commented about 4th gen ryzen should I think about that, is that near future?

Well, if you can afford to wait, I highly suggest you to wait. At that time, who knows if the price of the CPU and previous gen Mobo will drop slightly?

 

10 minutes ago, StepDice said:

I want any motherboard which people suggest tbh, gigabyte, ASUs, whatever.

i wouldn’t mind not having pcie4 but at least pcie 3

I see. Very well, then. There are many good b450 mobo out there, the one that @IAmAndre suggest is a popular b450 mobo.

[StepDice]

1 minute ago, paddy-stone said:

NO, IIRC all b450 boards are pcie 3.0, think that might have been a typo by the dude above.

Ok

[Chiyawa]

Just now, paddy-stone said:

NO, IIRC all b450 boards are pcie 3.0, think that might have been a typo by the dude above.

The PCIe lanes come from the CPU is restricted to PCIe 3.0. The PCIe lanes come from the chipset is only PCIe 2.0.

[StepDice]

1 minute ago, Chiyawa said:

Well, if you can afford to wait, I highly suggest you to wait. At that time, who knows if the price of the CPU and previous gen Mobo will drop slightly?

 

I see. Very well, then. There are many good b450 mobo out there, the one that @IAmAndre suggest is a popular b450 mobo.

If it’s more than a month then I can’t wait because I’m too excited about new components if that makes sense. If it’s the choice then a tomahawk looks good to me @Chiyawa

[paddy-stone]

Just now, StepDice said:

Ok

Nope, I edited my earlier comment, I was wrong and the chipset, ie lower pcie slot are only pcie 2.0.

[paddy-stone]

Just now, Chiyawa said:

The PCIe lanes come from the CPU is restricted to PCIe 3.0. The PCIe lanes come from the chipset is only PCIe 2.0.

Yep, already edited it.

[StepDice]

1 minute ago, paddy-stone said:

Nope, I edited my earlier comment, I was wrong and the chipset, ie lower pcie slot are only pcie 2.0.

What about an upper slot or whatever or are all pcie 2? 

[paddy-stone]

Just now, StepDice said:

What about an upper slot or whatever or are all pcie 2? 

Upper is 3.0, lower is 2.0

[Chiyawa]

Just now, StepDice said:

What about an upper slot or whatever or are all pcie 2? 

The upper slot is PCIe 3.0.

 

The upper M.2 slot is also PCIe 3.0.

[StepDice]

2 minutes ago, paddy-stone said:

Upper is 3.0, lower is 2.0

Ok so would you say for the extra £100 it’s worth getting x570 for pcie 4 or should I just get myself another pair of 3200 2x8gb memory?

[Chiyawa]

1 minute ago, StepDice said:

Ok so would you say for the extra £100 it’s worth getting x570 for pcie 4 or should I just get myself another pair of 3200 2x8gb memory?

If you don't really need PCIe 4.0, you can get the RAM instead.

[StepDice]

Just now, Chiyawa said:

If you don't really need PCIe 4.0, you can get the RAM instead.

Ok thanks 

[StepDice]

13 minutes ago, Chiyawa said:

If you don't really need PCIe 4.0, you can get the RAM instead.

@Chiyawa @IAmAndrethe tomohawk is out of stock and so is the tomohawk max so do you have any other recommendations for b450?

[GreyestGoat]

1 hour ago, boggy77 said:

i would say wait for ryzen 4000 series and the b550 boards

Once those come, wait for Ryzen 5000 series... this idea never helps anyone.