Question about XMP on asrock B450 Steel legend

[KhorCS]

Recently bought 2 sticks of trident z neo 8GB ram, I heard that ram usually runs at stock 2133mhz, so I went into the bios and changed it to XMP to the listed 3600mhz . However, the bios' hardware monitoring section still shows 2133mhz.

I remembered to hit save and apply before I went to check it. 

 

Am I doing it wrong? 

[emosun]

it's says its at 3600 its just listing the hardware as 2133

[GDRRiley]

2133 is the stock speed.

when you boot into your OS and use something like CPU Z it will show it right.

[Jurrunio]

Memory clock speed does not change after boot, you need to save & exit which should lead to a reboot. Also you verify overclock in the OS, not the BIOS.

[KhorCS]

@Jurrunio not sure why but the system is constantly stuck in boot, as in whenever I change the frequency in bios, it proceeds to reboot. Then I hear the CPU cooler ramp up in speed, monitor shows nothing but a black screen (windows logo doesn't even appear) and it's just stuck in that state. It's not even responding when I hold down power on button, only way I managed to turn it back on is to turn of the power supply entirely.

 

 

[Jurrunio]

15 minutes ago, KhorCS said:

@Jurrunio not sure why but the system is constantly stuck in boot, as in whenever I change the frequency in bios, it proceeds to reboot. Then I hear the CPU cooler ramp up in speed, monitor shows nothing but a black screen (windows logo doesn't even appear) and it's just stuck in that state. It's not even responding when I hold down power on button, only way I managed to turn it back on is to turn of the power supply entirely.

 

 

so it's not stable? Try lower frequencies first like 3200, and raise it step by step

[KhorCS]

1 hour ago, Jurrunio said:

so it's not stable? Try lower frequencies first like 3200, and raise it step by step

I mean u can kinda say that but I did manage to boot it earlier at 3600 not sure what's going on really lol so far 3200 is working

 

Also how high can the voltage be on ram before I start to damage it?

[ImNotNeko]

2 hours ago, GDRRiley said:

2133 is the stock speed.

when you boot into your OS and use something like CPU Z it will show it right.

no it won't

 

2 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

Memory clock speed does not change after boot, you need to save & exit which should lead to a reboot. Also you verify overclock in the OS, not the BIOS.

OS OC won't work either

 

 

1 hour ago, KhorCS said:

I mean u can kinda say that but I did manage to boot it earlier at 3600 not sure what's going on really lol so far 3200 is working

 

Also how high can the voltage be on ram before I start to damage it?

I'm pretty sure that motherboard does not allow anything higher than 1.4v on RAM.

 

 

 

B450 Steel Legend has a garbage XMP support.

 

I've tried 3 Steel Legend B450m board and I came to conclusion that I am never buying a mid tier AM4 boards from Asrock....

 

They all had different maximum RAM speed but none of them ever reached RAM specified XMP speed. lol

If you google that board, soooooo many people have XMP issues.

[Jurrunio]

1 hour ago, KhorCS said:

Also how high can the voltage be on ram before I start to damage it?

You'll hit the point of negative scaling, i.e. more voltage reduces stability before the voltage of damaging it first

 

27 minutes ago, ImNotNeko said:

OS OC won't work either

Never talked about OC with software in the OS, just verification of the OC

 

27 minutes ago, ImNotNeko said:

I'm pretty sure that motherboard does not allow anything higher than 1.4v on RAM.

 

 

B450 Steel Legend has a garbage XMP support.

 

I've tried 3 Steel Legend B450m board and I came to conclusion that I am never buying a mid tier AM4 boards from Asrock....

 

They all had different maximum RAM speed but none of them ever reached RAM specified XMP speed. lol

If you google that board, soooooo many people have XMP issues.

@Tristerin Pro4 has low memory voltage limit or not?

[KhorCS]

@ImNotNeko @Jurrunio so far I got it stable at 3200 with 1.25V. It did boot to 3400 after some effort but it was randomly closing my programs. Maybe I reached my limit?

 

The ram is actually rated for 3600mhz CL18-22-22-42, 1.35V. Not sure if I can go higher since I tried 3400 at 1.3V, not stable but made it to desktop, Increased it to 1.325 V in the next run, blue screens started to appear, also programs randomly closing itself

 

EDIT - forgot to mention, cpu is 2700x, guessing the memory controller isn't as robust as 3000 series

[Jurrunio]

1 minute ago, KhorCS said:

@ImNotNeko @Jurrunio so far I got it stable at 3200 with 1.25V. It did boot to 3400 after some effort but it was randomly closing my programs. Maybe I reached my limit?

 

The ram is actually rated for 3600mhz CL18-22-22-42, 1.35V. Not sure if I can go higher since I tried 3400 at 1.3V, not stable but made it to desktop, Increased it to 1.325 V in the next run, blue screens started to appear, also programs randomly closing itself

That's to be expected with 2nd gen, they can reliably do 2933MHz, most do 3200MHz but they never go over 3466 without manual effort (i.e. custom timings).

[Vejnemojnen]

29 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

That's to be expected with 2nd gen, they can reliably do 2933MHz, most do 3200MHz but they never go over 3466 without manual effort (i.e. custom timings).

That is the case. Though one of my mates used to run a 3000mhz cl15 Crucial Ballistix Sport kit (mikron E)  on 3600mhz cl16 with 2600& Steel Legend B450 board, he later changed the cpu to 2700x, now stuck at 3400MHz, and can't go above that. 

 

The very same Crucial memories were OCd to 3800Mhz on 9700k&GB Aorus Pro z390 board, so the modules are capable enough. It's just the IMC of the Zen+ CPUs, which usually limits RAM overclocks. 

[Tristerin]

6 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

 

 

@Tristerin Pro4 has low memory voltage limit or not?

This has changed with some BIOS updates iirc but I believe with the BIOS I am on its 1.4v

[Zen Sharma]

First Enable SoC/Uncore OC Mode in Advance AMD Overclocking. Then reboot and try to load XMP profile again. I will work flawlessly (tried with rated ram speed of 3200mhz).

[Jaasskk]

On 3/9/2020 at 11:04 AM, ImNotNeko said:

no it won't

 

OS OC won't work either

 

 

I'm pretty sure that motherboard does not allow anything higher than 1.4v on RAM.

 

 

 

B450 Steel Legend has a garbage XMP support.

 

I've tried 3 Steel Legend B450m board and I came to conclusion that I am never buying a mid tier AM4 boards from Asrock....

 

They all had different maximum RAM speed but none of them ever reached RAM specified XMP speed. lol

If you google that board, soooooo many people have XMP issues.

On 3/9/2020 at 8:02 AM, KhorCS said:

Recently bought 2 sticks of trident z neo 8GB ram, I heard that ram usually runs at stock 2133mhz, so I went into the bios and changed it to XMP to the listed 3600mhz . However, the bios' hardware monitoring section still shows 2133mhz.

I remembered to hit save and apply before I went to check it. 

 

Am I doing it wrong? 

 

Try the new BIOS update, it says it increased the support for XMP

[ImNotNeko]

On 7/11/2020 at 12:47 AM, Jaasskk said:

Try the new BIOS update, it says it increased the support for XMP

From my personal experience, Asrock is fine at any tier with Intel. Asrock with lower/mid end AMD seems to have problems.

But then again, I tested less than 20 AMD asrock boards so it's not like my results can speak for the majority.

[sampras]

b450 steel legend running r5 1600 @3,95ghz + corsair vengeance lpx 3200 @3333mhz totally stable.

bios 2.63b.. asrock wont recomend update bios if you have summit ridge and bla bla.. processors so... i want to update bios but asrock say "warning"

 

[sampras]

On 7/12/2020 at 12:08 PM, ImNotNeko said:

From my personal experience, Asrock is fine at any tier with Intel. Asrock with lower/mid end AMD seems to have problems.

But then again, I tested less than 20 AMD asrock boards so it's not like my results can speak for the majority.

ryzen 1600 3.98ghz corsair vengeance lpx 3200 mhz @3400mhz (1.5v) b450 steel legend... pretty nice board...