What's wrong with my AMD pc?

[OsJammer]

Hi, i really need to know what is causing this performance problem.

It's been going on for over 2 years and we built this PC 4 years ago. I don't know how or when this started exactly since i didn't do gaming much around that time. 

Here are some MSI Afterburner recordings of Apex Legends and Don't Starve Together. (Please read the descriptions.)

 

 

My power settings are on Performance Mode (100% on minimum and 100% on maximum cpu usage). And Bios settings are default and unchanged. I keep my chassis clean.

My RX480 has a problem where after every driver update, my pc doesn't detect it and it's known as Error Code 43. So i use 3. party programs to fix it. (atikmdag patcher and 6x gpu mod)

I brought my pc to a pc shop to understand the reason of the problem, but all i got was a format and thermal paste change. They said the GPU doesn't work well and is broken.

But one thing about that is, after the format & thermal paste change the pc performed much better. FPS wasn't going down from 75 but it was still not as good as it should be.

1 - 2 weeks later it was just like how it was before; way under 75 on low-mid graphic settings.

 

PC specs:  

OC:   Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
CPU:  AMD FX(tm)-8350 Eight-Core Processor 4.00 GHz
GPU:  Sapphire Radeon Nitro+ RX 480 8GB 256-bit Graphics
RAM:  8,00GB Single-Channel DDR3 
Chassis:  Thermaltake Versa N23
Motherboard:  ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. M5A97 LE R2.0 (Socket 942)
Storage:  WDC WD3200AAJS-00B4A0 (SATA) , ST1000DM003-1SB102 (SATA)
 

 

[Jurrunio]

Imo it's just CPU and memory bottleneck. GPU temperatures are also rather high, I suppose due to poor case airflow.

[Crunchy Dragon]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Imo it's just CPU and memory bottleneck. GPU temperatures are also rather high, I suppose due to poor case airflow.

Versa series isn't known for having good airflow, wouldn't surprise me.

[OsJammer]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Imo it's just CPU and memory bottleneck. GPU temperatures are also rather high, I suppose due to poor case airflow.

1- Can it be about the thermal paste?

2- How can i fix it?

[WereCatf]

7 minutes ago, OsJammer said:

Here are some MSI Afterburner recordings of Apex Legends and Don't Starve Together.

I'm not seeing the problem. Looking at your recordings, those games are running as well as one could expect from an 8-year old CPU.

[circeseye]

with the 8350 and a 480 it looks fine. you should thou go dual channel ram. add a second stick of ram.

but all in all it looks performance wise about right for your set up

thermal paste wont help airflow. try taking the side panel off and see how temps are

[OsJammer]

7 minutes ago, WereCatf said:

I'm not seeing the problem. Looking at your recordings, those games are running as well as one could expect from an 8-year old CPU.

Should i upgrade my Cpu? Would it fix everything?

[circeseye]

2 minutes ago, OsJammer said:

Should i upgrade my Cpu? Would it fix everything?

honestly you were like i was. but running a 8350 and a 590....the 8350 literally was holding back my 590. upgraded to a 3600 and big performance difference on my gpu

 

its a 8 year old system. the cpu architecture  will hold you back more and more as games and programs advance

[OsJammer]

Thank you so much. Can you recommend a cpu for my setup tho? 

[WereCatf]

Just now, OsJammer said:

Thank you so much. Can you recommend a cpu for my setup tho? 

You'd need new RAM and a new mobo as well, there's no CPU worth buying that can work with your current mobo. As for a good and not very expensive CPU, Ryzen 5 1600AF (not the Ryzen 5 1600. The AF-letters matter here!) is a solid choice.

[circeseye]

5 minutes ago, OsJammer said:

Thank you so much. Can you recommend a cpu for my setup tho? 

thats just it....its not just the cpu you need to change...you need to replace cpu, motherboard and ram. the am3 is pretty much dead
what werecalf said. or even a 2000 series with a b450 chipset mobo to stay in the lower prices.

1000 series or 2000 series destroys the 8350 performance wise

[geo3]

58 minutes ago, OsJammer said:

FX(tm)-8350

This. This is what's wrong with your AMD PC.

[lafrente]

1 hour ago, WereCatf said:

I'm not seeing the problem. Looking at your recordings, those games are running as well as one could expect from an 8-year old CPU.

Age and performance aren't the same thing.

 

@OsJammer First go bench your GPU and compare with overall scores of that card. You might have just changed some graphics settings or you might just be feeling like there is performance loss when there isn't.

 

If there is a performance loss, I doubt a card could be "half broken. Check if your case is clean, check the fan curves and make them more agressive. Uninstall the drivers, run driver cleanup utility and install the latest drivers. Also delete all the bloatware that is running in the background when gaming. That card can't really bottleneck that cpu. Perceivably at least.

[WereCatf]

7 minutes ago, lafrente said:

Age and performance aren't the same thing.

When it comes to CPUs, yes, it practically is. Old CPUs have far lower IPC compared to modern ones and e.g. the FX-series CPUs already had poor FPU-performance to boot when they launched -- their FPU-performance compared to current offerings is even worse now than it was at launch. Then there's also the matter of missing instruction-sets, like e.g. AVX2 entirely.