dolby vision Get Dolby Vision instead of HDR10 on Windows 10?

[Andrewtst]

1 hour ago, Syao said:

If Dolby Atmos is a store purchase to make it work, why not make the same for Dolby Vision?

Ya. Exactly agreed. 

[Syao]

21 hours ago, circeseye said:

disney+, and netflix app on windows do dolby vision. if the movie or show supports it my lg pops up dolby vision.

Okay, you running them on a custom built PC?

What did you do to make them display DV? Any specific settings?

 

This is what I get running Netflix Windows store app, maximized (but not exclusive fullscreen, even if that's a thing with such an app). Windows display settings with no HDR enabled (because I don't want to run my desktop in HDR), but again, that should not be a requirement, right? As you can see, Altered Carbon is definitely a DV title, but no DV sticker here.

 

I run Windows 11 Pro on AMD RX 6900 XT (I also did not check card settings for anything DV related)

TV is LG C11 48" OLED, connected with HDMI 2.1 8K certified cable.

What is it that I am missing?

[circeseye]

36 minutes ago, Syao said:

Okay, you running them on a custom built PC?

What did you do to make them display DV? Any specific settings?

 

This is what I get running Netflix Windows store app, maximized (but not exclusive fullscreen, even if that's a thing with such an app). Windows display settings with no HDR enabled (because I don't want to run my desktop in HDR), but again, that should not be a requirement, right? As you can see, Altered Carbon is definitely a DV title, but no DV sticker here.

 

I run Windows 11 Pro on AMD RX 6900 XT (I also did not check card settings for anything DV related)

TV is LG C11 48" OLED, connected with HDMI 2.1 8K certified cable.

What is it that I am missing?

im on a custom. amd 5800x, 6800xt. win 11 pro, 4k res, hdr on and 10bit 444, i do have the dolby extensions installed
now i know you need to disable game mode on the lg tv or when using the apps the tv will switch to game mode and dolby vision will not enable.
thats all i can think of

[Syao]

1 minute ago, circeseye said:

im on a custom. amd 5800x, 6800xt. win 11 pro, 4k res, hdr on and 10bit 444, i do have the dolby extensions installed
now i know you need to disable game mode on the lg tv or when using the apps the tv will switch to game mode and dolby vision will not enable.
thats all i can think of

Thanks!

Will test this, but if it requires HDR in Windows to be enabled and switching off the TV game mode, I think even if it works for me, it's still more hassle than just turn on a TV app and switch the headphones to BT... I think.

[Syao]

23 hours ago, circeseye said:

im on a custom. amd 5800x, 6800xt. win 11 pro, 4k res, hdr on and 10bit 444, i do have the dolby extensions installed
now i know you need to disable game mode on the lg tv or when using the apps the tv will switch to game mode and dolby vision will not enable.
thats all i can think of

Are you absolutely positive what your LG shows is "Dolby Vision" sticker? Not just "HDR"?

 

Because I tested the above scenario, turned on HDR in Windows, turned off game mode on TV (actually, it automatically switched to LG HDR mode) - the TV immediately indicated HDR mode with the right corner sticker. When I ran Netflix app, the same Altered Carbon info screen showed HDR (not DV, as in LG native app). Definitely nothing Dolby Vision related, just TV recognising HDR input from Windows dektop. Is there any specific AMD setting you may have turned on? Or maybe you're one of the lucky few whose entire chain consists of Dolby certified hardware  I wish those Dolby extensions could provide analysis on the chain.

So much effing around on customer side, this is unacceptable.

 

EDIT: Dolby Vision Extensions app from MS Store, one that promises all those wonders, also has this line in the descripiton: This application requires Dolby Vision licensed device. I wonder what they mean by that. Device as in "TV" or device as in "every bloody part of the setup". Funny thing is, app sys requirements are met.

 

 

[Andrewtst]

3 hours ago, Syao said:

Are you absolutely positive what your LG shows is "Dolby Vision" sticker? Not just "HDR"?

 

Because I tested the above scenario, turned on HDR in Windows, turned off game mode on TV (actually, it automatically switched to LG HDR mode) - the TV immediately indicated HDR mode with the right corner sticker. When I ran Netflix app, the same Altered Carbon info screen showed HDR (not DV, as in LG native app). Definitely nothing Dolby Vision related, just TV recognising HDR input from Windows dektop. Is there any specific AMD setting you may have turned on? Or maybe you're one of the lucky few whose entire chain consists of Dolby certified hardware  I wish those Dolby extensions could provide analysis on the chain.

So much effing around on customer side, this is unacceptable.

 

EDIT: Dolby Vision Extensions app from MS Store, one that promises all those wonders, also has this line in the descripiton: This application requires Dolby Vision licensed device. I wonder what they mean by that. Device as in "TV" or device as in "every bloody part of the setup". Funny thing is, app sys requirements are met.

 

 

I had test previously as well in my LG C9. It is not working even you install all extension. 

 

3 hours ago, Syao said:

This application requires Dolby Vision licensed device

After Google, only device like display came with the laptop will able to display Dolby Vision. The license device here doesn't included market available Dolby Vision TV.

 

I believe it doesn't support external display, if it is support then I believe LG which is major brand that out Dolby Vision TV will out Dolby Vision support monitor but currently none of it is support.

[circeseye]

4 hours ago, Syao said:

Are you absolutely positive what your LG shows is "Dolby Vision" sticker? Not just "HDR"?

 

 

 

 

yes it pops up dolby vision. now im not running oled (maybe thats something?) im on a 2021 75" lg nano90.

the last thing i can think of.....tv is direct connected. if i go through my avr then theres no dv. which pisses me off because i have to run duel screen if i want dv AND atmos. my tv earc from secondary sources only does stereo.

 

 

[Stahlmann]

On 12/11/2022 at 4:54 AM, circeseye said:

yes it pops up dolby vision. now im not running oled (maybe thats something?) im on a 2021 75" lg nano90.

the last thing i can think of.....tv is direct connected. if i go through my avr then theres no dv. which pisses me off because i have to run duel screen if i want dv AND atmos. my tv earc from secondary sources only does stereo.

Could you please make a screenshot of Netflix showing the Dolby Vision sticker?

Or a photo of your TV running a Dolby Vision picture mode while watching the content on your PC?

 

I never had any type of content change my TV to a different picture mode. Even ALLM isn't fully supported from PC's afaik. Your TV might be able to automatically change to game mode when it recognizes a PC input, but different content playing on the PC shouldn't be able to change your TV into different picture modes, for example filmmaker mode when you start a movie on netflix.

 

My guess is that you think you're watching in Dolby Vision because you isntalled the extensions, but you're really just watching HDR10 content. I haven't seen anyone getting Dolby Vision to work on PC. Neither in movies, nor in supposedly supported games.

 

I even tried to force my C2 into the Dolby Vision picture mode through the service menu and the Netflix or Disney+ apps still only supported HDR10.

 

I also have an older C9 OLED. Here it's the same: No Dolby Vision through windows, only through integrated apps. Not that it matters as i use the TV's intergated apps almost exclusively, but at least i have 2 Dolby Vision capable displays to test on.

 

Dolby Atmos on the other hand works flawlessly. Just install Dolby Access, turn on Armos for headphones and it just works in supported games and movies.

[Sawtaytoes]

41 minutes ago, Stahlmann said:

Dolby Atmos on the other hand works flawlessly. Just install Dolby Access, turn on Armos for headphones and it just works in supported games and movies.

Dolby Atmos

This is a huge can of worms. For clarification, Dolby Atmos for Headphones (paid) is not the same as Dolby Atmos for Home Theater (free). Both are part of the same Dolby Access app, but one is for binaural and the other is for AVRs; although, both work through the Windows Spatial Audio API.

Dolby Vision support in software

@circeseye Based on what you're saying, that sounds correct; that you'd see it when directly connected to the TV and not your AVR. I've seen a game popup that Dolby Vision sticker on my sister's LG C2 OLED in Win10, so I know it's possible. I'd also like to see a picture as well, but I can just test it out myself .

 

It's the same way Dolby Atmos and DTS:X work in Windows even without any special software. If you send the bitstream directly to your AVR rather than Windows, you get the supported audio mode.

 

Dolby Vision games?

It'd be cool if there was a game we could use to test that sends the "bitstream" of Dolby Vision directly to the TV. Other than Need for Speed Heat, do you know any @circeseye? You said it was hit or miss implying there are others.

 

Dolby Vision from your AVR
I also run my display and audio through my AVR and notice that my display device shows the LG C1. I wonder if your receiver doesn't support Dolby Vision because it's not setup as 100% passthrough, or you don't have the correct HDMI setting configured; for instance, I had to put my receiver in Mode 3 (8K mode) to get 4K@120Hz even with full passthrough.

[Sawtaytoes]

I was unable to get it working in Dolby Vision mode even when I disabled PC mode on my LG C1 OLED and when I directly connected to the TV rather than the receiver.

 

I have an NVIDIA RTX 3090, so that could be another issue as you noted you're using a Radeon 6800XT.

 

This Dolby Vision Extensions app won't let me install it either which could be another reason:

 

I went a step further and tried it on my Surface Pro 8 tablet. It also won't let me install Dolby Vision Extensions, but here is The Witcher:

 

I noticed this says Dolby Atmos, not Dolby Vision. Maybe that's the issue? It looks exactly like the Dolby Vision logo that normally pops up. This tablet has native support for something called Dolby Vision IQ; although, that didn't show up in the Dolby Access app when I connected to the LG C1 OLED.

 

I tried so many different ways of getting it to work on my NVIDIA card, but it wouldn't budge. Even tried filmmaker mode, disabling PC input, different HDMI inputs, etc.

[Sawtaytoes]

Even more news!

 

 

On my Surface Pro 8, it actually shows Dolby Vision support on the built-in display. Also note, there is no Dolby Vision Extensions app.

 

When viewing Dolby Vision content, this is what I see:

 

It shows Dolby Vision support in the Dolby Access app:

 

[Andrewtst]

1 hour ago, Sawtaytoes said:

Even more news!

 

 

On my Surface Pro 8, it actually shows Dolby Vision support on the built-in display. Also note, there is no Dolby Vision Extensions app.

 

When viewing Dolby Vision content, this is what I see:

 

It shows Dolby Vision support in the Dolby Access app:

 

Internal display do have device that is support but once connected to external display, currently none is support Dolby Vision in Windows. 

[circeseye]

ok i guess i should have went back to duel monitor and redid.....(i went direct to avr because duel was annoying and it would randomly crash the driver when i turn the tv off so i sacrificed dv for it at the time)
i redid my old set up and your right dv dont work now. and i know it used to
YES it did work before...netflix and disney+. the game that worked in dv for me was cyberpunk. dolby vision would pop up top right. the screen tone would change.

 

now heres the kicker im seeing. in jan i went single to avr. about march windows did an update and atmos and dts stopped working right. (it worked but only one thing can play audio and id have to reset my avr to hear anything afterward, still does it today) but either way windows broke dolby

im guessing it effected dv too. (i wouldnt be suprised).

 

i apologize. i should have re-verified. i just know it USED to work

[Stahlmann]

18 hours ago, circeseye said:

ok i guess i should have went back to duel monitor and redid.....(i went direct to avr because duel was annoying and it would randomly crash the driver when i turn the tv off so i sacrificed dv for it at the time)
i redid my old set up and your right dv dont work now. and i know it used to
YES it did work before...netflix and disney+. the game that worked in dv for me was cyberpunk. dolby vision would pop up top right. the screen tone would change.

 

now heres the kicker im seeing. in jan i went single to avr. about march windows did an update and atmos and dts stopped working right. (it worked but only one thing can play audio and id have to reset my avr to hear anything afterward, still does it today) but either way windows broke dolby

im guessing it effected dv too. (i wouldnt be suprised).

 

i apologize. i should have re-verified. i just know it USED to work

The List of Games that support Dolby Vision is tiny and Cyberpunk isn't part of it. So even if it did somehow switch into DV by accident, you weren't looking at DV content either way.

 

My guess is that the AVR somehow forced the TV into DV mode, even though the content wasn't DV. And seeing as this was likely a software bug, your reset probably fixed it, which is why you can't recreate it.

[Sawtaytoes]

When trying out NFS Heat the other night, I also wasn't going into DV mode. In fact, my whole display was corrupt. Not sure what happened there.

But tonight, I noticed my TV had drive activity and turned on my TV and receiver. The TV was in Dolby Vision mode, but I wasn't able to access anything in Windows. Then I shut it down by pressing the power button.

Not sure what happened.

[MonitorFlicker]

On 12/7/2022 at 8:03 PM, Syao said:

Mkay, not a pirate here. Just a disgruntled streamer.

I want Disney+ and Netflix MS Store and/or Edge apps display DV content the way my LG OLED native apps do.

 

DOABLE? Yeah/Nay? Possible at all?

Before you send me back to LG apps, my PC is the core of all activities, connected to the LG functioning as a monitor, switching back and forth is a bit cumbersome, swapping inputs, pairing BT headphones back to TV etc. - not impossible to do, just a bit of a hindrance. I hoped there would be a way to stay on PC.

 

I keep reading about the issue, but no real solution has presented itself so far. Still, I'd rather accept a hard "NO", instead of clinging to false hopes that pop up here and there.

Not possible.  

 

Dolby Vision is a hardware feature. You need a competent display to fully support DV. I can tell you there aren't many displays that are competent. 

 

There are built-in hardware certificates and more powerful processing units in these displays to support the Dolby Vision mapping/grading. Once it is enabled, the display can do auto grading based on the range of the display.   

 

For example, there is a DV display capable of HDR 1400, 86% Rec.2020. There is a footage at least graded for HDR 4000, 90% Rec.2020, which is what Dolby originally required. Once the display reads the data of each frame of the HDR 4000 footage, the footage will be automatically regraded by the display with new data matched to HDR 1400, 86% Rec.2020 without any external processing. This is why it is called dynamic metadata. This is not something a general display can do without external processing and certification. And Dolby won't let a cheap display to use its grading algorithm to hurt its reputation when some pirates claimed Dolby Vision sucks on their incompetent displays. 

 

What you can get on these demos are just done by external processing with certificates provided by Windows. You cannot get anything beyond that without certificates. Even you manage to hack the certificates to use the Dolby algorithm, your display is not that capable of HDR or the manufacture would have it hardware certified by Dolby. So the chances are what you see on these demos are worse than static data, a lot worse than Dolby's requirements. 

 

These MKV pirates better gear up for a better display lol. 

 

[Sawtaytoes]

36 minutes ago, MonitorFlicker said:

Not possible.  

 

Dolby Vision is a hardware feature. You need a competent display to fully support DV. I can tell you there aren't many displays that are competent. 

 

There are built-in hardware certificates and more powerful processing units in these displays to support the Dolby Vision mapping/grading. Once it is enabled, the display can do auto grading based on the range of the display.   

 

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What you can get on these demos are just done by external processing with certificates provided by Windows. You cannot get anything beyond that without certificates. Even you manage to hack the certificates to use the Dolby algorithm, your display is not that capable of HDR or the manufacture would have it hardware certified by Dolby. So the chances are what you see on these demos are worse than static data, a lot worse than Dolby's requirements. 

 

These MKV pirates better gear up for a better display lol. 

 

I think you might be misunderstanding.

What people are asking for is a feature similar to Dolby Atmos for Home Theater. A way to output Dolby Vision from Windows when the display supports it. Currently, this is only possible on built-in displays for select OEM laptops and tablets.

 

With Dolby Atmos for Home Theater, my AVR supports it; therefore, Dolby Atmos can transmit to my receiver either as a bitstream (no volume control in Windows) or through the Windows Spatial Audio API like you'll see in Forza Horizon 5, Ori, and other games.

Dolby Vision works on my Surface Pro 8 with the built-in display, but not when connected to my LG C1 OLED which also supports Dolby Vision. Either way, I know Windows can switch the display to Dolby Vision mode; the question is if we can play video files, games, and other material in Dolby Vision HDR rather than in the HDR10 wrapper.

[MonitorFlicker]

56 minutes ago, Sawtaytoes said:

I think you might be misunderstanding.

What people are asking for is a feature similar to Dolby Atmos for Home Theater. A way to output Dolby Vision from Windows when the display supports it. Currently, this is only possible on built-in displays for select OEM laptops and tablets.

 

With Dolby Atmos for Home Theater, my AVR supports it; therefore, Dolby Atmos can transmit to my receiver either as a bitstream (no volume control in Windows) or through the Windows Spatial Audio API like you'll see in Forza Horizon 5, Ori, and other games.

Dolby Vision works on my Surface Pro 8 with the built-in display, but not when connected to my LG C1 OLED which also supports Dolby Vision. Either way, I know Windows can switch the display to Dolby Vision mode; the question is if we can play video files, games, and other material in Dolby Vision HDR rather than in the HDR10 wrapper.

If a display fully supports Dolby Vision, you only need to switch Dolby Vision option in the display menu. Then the display will do auto grading/mapping on any HDR images from Windows. 

 

It doesn't need more settings as it is a built-in hardware feature. The HDR image you see will be regraded in the range without clipping. 

 

Surface Pro 8, LG C1/C2 are not even true HDR displays. LG uses Dolby Vision IQ with different grading algorithm. Surface Pro is the mobile Dolby Vision of another algorithm.  The actual Dolby Vision is the one on the monitor. 

[Sawtaytoes]

33 minutes ago, MonitorFlicker said:

If a display fully supports Dolby Vision, you only need to switch Dolby Vision option in the display menu. Then the display will do auto grading/mapping on any HDR images from Windows. 

 

It doesn't need more settings as it is a built-in hardware feature. The HDR image you see will be regraded in the range without clipping. 

 

Surface Pro 8, LG C1/C2 are not even true HDR displays. LG uses Dolby Vision IQ with different grading algorithm. Surface Pro is the mobile Dolby Vision of another algorithm.  The actual Dolby Vision is the one on the monitor. 

I don't know what you mean about switching to the Dolby Vision option. Displays don't choose to be in SDR, HDR, or Dolby Vision, the content provider (Windows, Blu-ray player, Roku, etc) sends a signal to the display telling it what mode to be in.

 

And Windows has no way to tell the display to be in Dolby Vision mode unless you're watching or playing Dolby Vision content.

If you want to play games in Dolby Vision, you need the game or Windows to tell the display to switch to Dolby Vision mode. There's no setting to do this. Enabling Dolby Vision IQ on my Surface Pro 8 simply means I've enabled the capability of playing back Dolby Vision content.

 

Windows tells apps "this display is Dolby Vision capable", so they'll know to enable Dolby Vision mode when HDR is enabled.

 

We know that both the Surface Pro 8's built-in screen and the LG C1 OLED support the exact same Dolby Vision IQ feature, but if I try to load Dolby Vision content on my LG C1 OLED from my Surface Pro 8, it does not output Dolby Vision.

 

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The Surface Pro 8 uses Dolby Vision IQ. I have pictures of the Dolby Access app's settings in the thread.

 

Dolby Vision IQ also uses a sensor built into the TV to measure the ambient light in the room, and adjusts the Dolby Vision dynamic tone mapping accordingly so that details are preserved.

The LG C1 OLED uses Dolby Vision IQ:

Source: https://www.dolby.com/experience/televisions/lg-c1-oled-tv/

 

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Dolby Vision IQ also uses a sensor built into the TV to measure the ambient light in the room, and adjusts the Dolby Vision dynamic tone mapping accordingly so that details are preserved. The difference is that Dolby Vision IQ can use the dynamic metadata in the content data stream to inform the TV of the type of content being viewed

Source: https://www.avforums.com/articles/what-is-dolby-vision-iq.17050/

 

So it looks like Dolby Vision IQ is true Dolby Vision, it's just one that adjusts the tone mapping based on the ambient lighting (which is what you want). This is a superior technology to standard Dolby Vision, but it's the exact same processing of metadata.

[MonitorFlicker]

43 minutes ago, Sawtaytoes said:

I don't know what you mean about switching to the Dolby Vision option. Displays don't choose to be in SDR, HDR, or Dolby Vision, the content provider (Windows, Blu-ray player, Roku, etc) sends a signal to the display telling it what mode to be in.

 

And Windows has no way to tell the display to be in Dolby Vision mode unless you're watching or playing Dolby Vision content.

If you want to play games in Dolby Vision, you need the game or Windows to tell the display to switch to Dolby Vision mode. There's no setting to do this. Enabling Dolby Vision IQ on my Surface Pro 8 simply means I've enabled the capability of playing back Dolby Vision content.

 

Windows tells apps "this display is Dolby Vision capable", so they'll know to enable Dolby Vision mode when HDR is enabled.

 

We know that both the Surface Pro 8's built-in screen and the LG C1 OLED support the exact same Dolby Vision IQ feature, but if I try to load Dolby Vision content on my LG C1 OLED from my Surface Pro 8, it does not output Dolby Vision.

 

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The Surface Pro 8 uses Dolby Vision IQ. I have pictures of the Dolby Access app's settings in the thread.

 

Dolby Vision IQ also uses a sensor built into the TV to measure the ambient light in the room, and adjusts the Dolby Vision dynamic tone mapping accordingly so that details are preserved.

The LG C1 OLED uses Dolby Vision IQ:

Source: https://www.dolby.com/experience/televisions/lg-c1-oled-tv/

 

Source: https://www.avforums.com/articles/what-is-dolby-vision-iq.17050/

 

So it looks like Dolby Vision IQ is true Dolby Vision, it's just one that adjusts the tone mapping based on the ambient lighting (which is what you want). This is a superior technology to standard Dolby Vision, but it's the exact same processing of metadata.

Dolby Vision has nothing to do with Windows. The DV display can choose to be in Dolby Vision to do garding by itself once it receives data. You don't need to do anything except enabling HDR on Windows to receive data. Even in sdr, the display can still grade data if the colorspace is set to rec 2020.  

 

You don't need specific Dolby Vision graded content as the display is doing DV grading out of any content.

 

And Dolby Vision IQ is a much inferior standard compared to the actual Dolby Vision.  All the reason why it's on displays that are not even capable of true HDR. It's also why you need to watch specific Dolby graded content. 

 

 

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[Sawtaytoes]

On 12/18/2022 at 1:39 AM, MonitorFlicker said:

Dolby Vision has nothing to do with Windows.

I want to keep this thread on-topic. Please do not post random information without sources. This will mislead people who don't know anything about Dolby Vision which has extremely limited documentation especially on Windows.

I'll repeat what people want out of this thread:
We want a way to legally acquire a Dolby Vision license for Windows, so we can view Dolby Vision content with our self-built devices. Right now, it appears only pre-built machines allow outputting Dolby Vision and only on the built-in display.

 

For whatever reason, we cannot output Dolby Vision content in Dolby Vision to a compatible display (like a brand new LG OLED) from Windows.

 

To be clear, this works with Dolby Atmos for Home Theater (not the headphone one), and it's completely free via the Dolby Access app. It'd be great if something like "Dolby Vision for External Displays" was also installed as part of that app.

[MonitorFlicker]

17 hours ago, Sawtaytoes said:

I want to keep this thread on-topic. Please do not post random information without sources. This will mislead people who don't know anything about Dolby Vision which has extremely limited documentation especially on Windows.

I'll repeat what people want out of this thread:
We want a way to legally acquire a Dolby Vision license for Windows, so we can view Dolby Vision content with our self-built devices. Right now, it appears only pre-built machines allow outputting Dolby Vision and only on the built-in display.

 

For whatever reason, we cannot output Dolby Vision content in Dolby Vision to a compatible display (like a brand new LG OLED) from Windows.

 

To be clear, this works with Dolby Atmos for Home Theater (not the headphone one), and it's completely free via the Dolby Access app. It'd be great if something like "Dolby Vision for External Displays" was also installed as part of that app.

I told you to email Dolby if they are generous to offer you an answer. 

 

Let me repeat this again. 

 

You cannot get actual contrast where the 400nits sun against 0.1nits shadow 400:0.1 vs 2000nits sun against shadow 2000:0.1.

 

But you will get "crashed" details where the supposed 100nits ground against 1nit shadow 100:1 is tone-mapped down to 15nits ground against 1nits shadow 15:1

 

In the end you won't see that much contrast the creator indented. You won't be able to see these 2^10 or 1024 shades of 10-bit color when it is cramped under 400nits instead of 1000+nits. 

This is why Dolby doesn't bother to use its algorithm on sub-HDR displays. It will just look worse compared to original HDR 10 static clipping content. It looks even worse than 400nits clipping SDR.

This is why your devices are blocked without hardware certification even with infinite contrast which is just a relative contrast against 0nits with no color.

 

And these mods here still know nothing about HDR but deleting comments they don't understand.  

[perrinpages]

On 12/7/2022 at 7:03 PM, Syao said:

Mkay, not a pirate here. Just a disgruntled streamer.

I want Disney+ and Netflix MS Store and/or Edge apps display DV content the way my LG OLED native apps do.

 

DOABLE? Yeah/Nay? Possible at all?

Before you send me back to LG apps, my PC is the core of all activities, connected to the LG functioning as a monitor, switching back and forth is a bit cumbersome, swapping inputs, pairing BT headphones back to TV etc. - not impossible to do, just a bit of a hindrance. I hoped there would be a way to stay on PC.

 

I keep reading about the issue, but no real solution has presented itself so far. Still, I'd rather accept a hard "NO", instead of clinging to false hopes that pop up here and there.

any modern apple device will play dolby vision profile 5 streams tagged as dvh1 (including apple tv) in mp4 container, but they are software decoded for some reason and truehd atmos isn't supported...only flac (lossless regular 7.1) or eac3 (compressed) atmos.

[perrinpages]

On 1/2/2023 at 11:54 PM, MonitorFlicker said:

I told you to email Dolby if they are generous to offer you an answer. 

 

Let me repeat this again. 

 

You cannot get actual contrast where the 400nits sun against 0.1nits shadow 400:0.1 vs 2000nits sun against shadow 2000:0.1.

 

But you will get "crashed" details where the supposed 100nits ground against 1nit shadow 100:1 is tone-mapped down to 15nits ground against 1nits shadow 15:1

 

In the end you won't see that much contrast the creator indented. You won't be able to see these 2^10 or 1024 shades of 10-bit color when it is cramped under 400nits instead of 1000+nits. 

This is why Dolby doesn't bother to use its algorithm on sub-HDR displays. It will just look worse compared to original HDR 10 static clipping content. It looks even worse than 400nits clipping SDR.

This is why your devices are blocked without hardware certification even with infinite contrast which is just a relative contrast against 0nits with no color.

 

And these mods here still know nothing about HDR but deleting comments they don't understand.  

lol no, the dolby vision mapping engine is perfectly capable of tone mapping to an sdr wide gamut display. it works well enough on apple devices and licensed dolby vision pcs.