Setting RX 5700-XT to full power during game

[Zando_]

2 minutes ago, Pablo Molina said:

I can´t find wattman on 2020 version. I would rather set my fan curve with that though.

Performance > Tuning > should be able to manually set core/VRAM clocks/voltages, fan profile, power target, etc. 

[IndioBravo]

1 minute ago, Zando Bob said:

Performance > Tuning > should be able to manually set core/VRAM clocks/voltages, fan profile, power target, etc. 

Thank you very much! I found it. Time to play with it a little bit.

[Zando_]

1 minute ago, Pablo Molina said:

Thank you very much! I found it. Time to play with it a little bit.

Good luck! Hopefully it's stable for you, these drivers are hit or miss for a lot of people. 

[IndioBravo]

5 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Good luck! Hopefully it's stable for you, these drivers are hit or miss for a lot of people. 

While in game, I changed the min frequency but it seems to just ignore it.

 

EDIT: I did apply changes.

[xAcid9]

Min Freq% don't tell much, from which power state? My 980 Ti min freq is 135mhz, 1.4x that only make it 189mhz.

You can try MorePowahTool.

https://www.igorslab.de/morepowertool-amd-radeon-rx-5700-und-rx-5700-xt-tweaking-and-overclocking-software/2/

 

 

Also read the whole article 1st, use at your own risk because i never use this software.

[miagisan]

Have you tried alt+r in game to set a game profile? 

[IndioBravo]

On 1/14/2020 at 7:59 PM, xAcid9 said:

Min Freq% don't tell much, from which power state? My 980 Ti min freq is 135mhz, 1.4x that only make it 189mhz.

You can try MorePowahTool.

https://www.igorslab.de/morepowertool-amd-radeon-rx-5700-und-rx-5700-xt-tweaking-and-overclocking-software/2/

 

 

Also read the whole article 1st, use at your own risk because i never use this software.

I´m kind of afraid of using it haha. But as a last resort I´ll have to. Thanks!

[IndioBravo]

On 1/14/2020 at 8:43 PM, miagisan said:

Have you tried alt+r in game to set a game profile? 

Yeah, I tried but settings just don´t affect clock speed.

[Mister Woof]

GPUs aren't like CPUs. You can't just set a desired frequency and expect it to stay there. It will boost as high as you allow it to, but only as much as thermals allow, and will lower clock speed to adjust to heat and load. Better way to achieve improved performance on AMD cards (specifically 5700xt) is less about overclocking and more about undervolting and increasing cooling.

The undervolt reduces heat, and increasing fan curves reduces heat. The additional headroom allows the card to stay in high boost frequency longer.

 

On my 5700 xt, i actually LOWERED maximum P3 frequency, but gained performance overall. Biggest issue with factory settings is the fan doesn't even really turn on until 85c, which is terrible. You'll also want to use some other monitoring software to ensure your memory temp and hotspot temp aren't too high. Even though AMD software says GPU temp is low, say 70, your other two stats are much more important to prevent throttling.

 

Stock:

 

Undervolt, underclock, fan curve boost:

 

With the P3 max state losing almost 100mv and a much more aggressive fan curve, thermals are in much better control and overall frequency is much higher. Example in SotTR benchmark i went from 117fps to 124fps with lower temps. You will have to see how low you can go and stay stable. Every card is going to be different.

 

I was able to get P3 1900mhz and only 1000mv with much better cooling (and STILL better FPS than factory settings); however, I chose to go with P3 2100mhz/1100mv with acceptable temperatures and much better FPS performance. On the 2100mhz/1100mv setting, in Heaven i hang around 2000mhz pretty much constantly, with GPU temps no higher than 70c, memory no more than 80c, and hotspot no more than 85c.

 

[IndioBravo]

7 hours ago, Mister Woof said:

GPUs aren't like CPUs. You can't just set a desired frequency and expect it to stay there. It will boost as high as you allow it to, but only as much as thermals allow, and will lower clock speed to adjust to heat and load. Better way to achieve improved performance on AMD cards (specifically 5700xt) is less about overclocking and more about undervolting and increasing cooling.

The undervolt reduces heat, and increasing fan curves reduces heat. The additional headroom allows the card to stay in high boost frequency longer.

 

On my 5700 xt, i actually LOWERED maximum P3 frequency, but gained performance overall. Biggest issue with factory settings is the fan doesn't even really turn on until 85c, which is terrible. You'll also want to use some other monitoring software to ensure your memory temp and hotspot temp aren't too high. Even though AMD software says GPU temp is low, say 70, your other two stats are much more important to prevent throttling.

 

Stock:

 

Undervolt, underclock, fan curve boost:

 

With the P3 max state losing almost 100mv and a much more aggressive fan curve, thermals are in much better control and overall frequency is much higher. Example in SotTR benchmark i went from 117fps to 124fps with lower temps. You will have to see how low you can go and stay stable. Every card is going to be different.

 

I was able to get P3 1900mhz and only 1000mv with much better cooling (and STILL better FPS than factory settings); however, I chose to go with P3 2100mhz/1100mv with acceptable temperatures and much better FPS performance. On the 2100mhz/1100mv setting, in Heaven i hang around 2000mhz pretty much constantly, with GPU temps no higher than 70c, memory no more than 80c, and hotspot no more than 85c.

 

This looks elaborated. I´m really new to OC so I will try creating a profile kind of copying your settings

 

On the other hand, do you think this will solve the FPS drop on low GPU usage games such as lol and R6 Siege? Where my GPU just sits there at 55C with super low clock speeds, so low sometimes that frames drop.

[Mister Woof]

55 minutes ago, Pablo Molina said:

This looks elaborated. I´m really new to OC so I will try creating a profile kind of copying your settings

 

On the other hand, do you think this will solve the FPS drop on low GPU usage games such as lol and R6 Siege? Where my GPU just sits there at 55C with super low clock speeds, so low sometimes that frames drop.

 

Sounds complicated but it's really just doing your part to prevent the card from throttling itself.

 

What's your CPU again? That's probably the culprit. Possibly storage.

[IndioBravo]

3 hours ago, Mister Woof said:

 

Sounds complicated but it's really just doing your part to prevent the card from throttling itself.

 

What's your CPU again? That's probably the culprit. Possibly storage.

I have a Ryzen 5 2600x @4GHz but does never go beyong 80% usage.

 

My storage is a samsung evo 500gb ssd and a WD blue 3tb

[Mister Woof]

1 minute ago, Pablo Molina said:

I have a Ryzen 5 2600x @4GHz but does never go beyong 80% usage.

 

My storage is a samsung evo 500gb ssd and a WD blue 3tb

You can be at 20% and be cpu bound; most games aren't optimized enough to utilize all of your cores, but will hammer one or two pretty hard

[IndioBravo]

Just now, Mister Woof said:

You can be at 20% and be cpu bound; most games aren't optimized enough to utilize all of your cores, but will hammer one or two pretty hard

But does that mean there is nothing to do? I mean, it is the games fault and I´d have to get a better CPU?

[IndioBravo]

4 hours ago, Pablo Molina said:

This looks elaborated. I´m really new to OC so I will try creating a profile kind of copying your settings

 

On the other hand, do you think this will solve the FPS drop on low GPU usage games such as lol and R6 Siege? Where my GPU just sits there at 55C with super low clock speeds, so low sometimes that frames drop.

Also, regarding your fan curve, why won´t you let it reach 100% fan speed?

[Mister Woof]

14 minutes ago, Pablo Molina said:

But does that mean there is nothing to do? I mean, it is the games fault and I´d have to get a better CPU?

You can't avoid fps lows no matter what hardware you have. Sometimes the workflow gets stopped up at one point or another and the rest of your system has to catch up. Faster CPUs (not wider, after a certain point) help but won't make it go away. Obviously a 9900k or something would be pretty big jump, but that's not really worth it imo. Even that CPU will hit lows in fps.

 

Or it could be drivers as other have said. I'm using the latest on mine without issues.

 

I don't set maximum fan curve because I don't need to; thermals are well below tolerable specs (I think under 90c on memory and under 100c on hotspot is where you want to be), but noise would be completely intolerable.

 

Probably won't fix low GPU utilization. But neither would overclocking the GPU or having a faster gpu.

[IndioBravo]

1 hour ago, Mister Woof said:

You can't avoid fps lows no matter what hardware you have. Sometimes the workflow gets stopped up at one point or another and the rest of your system has to catch up. Faster CPUs (not wider, after a certain point) help but won't make it go away. Obviously a 9900k or something would be pretty big jump, but that's not really worth it imo. Even that CPU will hit lows in fps.

 

Or it could be drivers as other have said. I'm using the latest on mine without issues.

 

I don't set maximum fan curve because I don't need to; thermals are well below tolerable specs (I think under 90c on memory and under 100c on hotspot is where you want to be), but noise would be completely intolerable.

 

Probably won't fix low GPU utilization. But neither would overclocking the GPU or having a faster gpu.

Good, because I wasn´t planing on upgrading CPU anytime soon.

 

As of drivers, I´m using the latest RECOMENDED one (19.12.2), I read optional ones can cause trouble.

 

Regarding your fist point, I had a 1060 6GB before the RX 5700XT and core clock speeds were straight line stable when playing (1950MHz). As a result, games like LoL never saw a single frame drop, and that is with my current CPU and setup. Memory clock was 4000MHz vs the 1750MHz I have right, don´t know if that is also a factor.

 

My GPU hits 84C max, and 82C mostly when playing games like RDR2 and GTA V so I ser the fan to 100%, makes some noice but I just blast my headset up haha.