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Tieox
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Tonight I removed a 1TB Mechanical HD from my system, I even formatted it before removing it, as the plan later in the week was to replace it with a SSD.  However after doing this my computer would not boot.  It would post and go into the bios after flashing the screen several times.  After trial and error I re-inserted the mechanical drive and the system booted no problem, even though the OS was on my 860 Pro SSD, and showed this on desktop. Once again removing the drive resulted in being unable to boot.

 

In the end I wiped all the SSD's (glad I had backups) and reinstalled Windows, only noticing when setting back up my fan curves that the booting SSD now showed in bios as a Windows Boot Manager.   

 

Is it possible that even though my OS was installed on my SSD, the Boot Manager was on the mechanical drive? and how the hell does that happen? I have never run the OS from a mechanical drive in this computer since I built it!

 

Storage layout is

 

860 Pro OS

 

850 Pro Games

 

1TB Seagate Barracuda - When removed caused no boot, until I formatted both SSD's and clean installed Windows 10.

PC - NZXT H510 Elite, Ryzen 5600, 16GB DDR3200 2x8GB, EVGA 3070 FTW3 Ultra, Asus VG278HQ 165hz,

 

Mac - 1.4ghz i5, 4GB DDR3 1600mhz, Intel HD 5000.  x2

 

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49 minutes ago, Kierax said:

s it possible that even though my OS was installed on my SSD, the Boot Manager was on the mechanical drive

Yes, happened to me once, you needed to make sure that your ssd was one to your system to boot.

I had the same problem when enabling xmp mode on ram? have you enabled it? If you have try to boot without xmp, then enable xmp and boot, that is when you know that, that is your problem. 

51 minutes ago, Kierax said:

and how the hell does that happen?

Mayby bug in bios. Make sure to use the latest bios and chipset drivers, from you manufactures official website (upgddade the audio,bluetooth and lan from there also)

QUOTE ME  FOR ANSWER.

 

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Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

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Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

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Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

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Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

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Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

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3 hours ago, Kierax said:

 

Is it possible that even though my OS was installed on my SSD, the Boot Manager was on the mechanical drive?

That's exactly what happened.

 

3 hours ago, Kierax said:

and how the hell does that happen? I have never run the OS from a mechanical drive in this computer since I built it!

Hard to tell. It's not uncommon when migrating to an SSD or dual-booting. If you had used the HDD before, and it had the boot manager from another system, it could be the case that the Windows installer detected it and added itself there, rather than creating a new partition in the SDD (the intended behavior is for all OSes to register in the same boot manager partition, or good ol' MBR).

 

I think you can avoid reinstalling by removing the HDD, then using Windows' install media to boot and ask it to repair the boot partition - at least that's how I dealt with migrated OS drives that didn't contain the MBR partition.

 

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I've seen this before, best way to avoid it 100% is to install Windows with only the OS drive plugged in. After Windows is installed, add secondary drives.

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