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Will01
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So i have a BenQ xl2411t monitor. it has hdmi, dvi and vga. so obviously vga is out of the question. apparently the hdmi is 1.4, so the same with that. So it leaves us with DVI. I've had that working for the last 2ish years with my gtx1060. but now ive just gone and upgraded to a 5700xt. It only has hdmi and display port. So, i have nowhere to plug my dvi cable. and people on the internet seem to be confused and say a simple adapter will not work? Any idea. one forum came to the conclusion to "just buy a new monitor". surely this isnt the case? hahaha

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Cheap HDMI->DVI adapters are DVI Single Link which means you'll be limited to 60 Hz.

 

HDMI/DP to DVI-DL (dual link) adapters/converters are rare and expensive.

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I just got boned by the same thing. I had an acer that was 144hz over DVI-D only. The cheapest adapter i could find (it has to be truely active) was about $160 so i just went out and upgraded to 1440 at 144hz with DP. Best i could do with my acer was overclock to 72hz on HDMI to get a half refresh to the 144hz for stutter issues. The adapters even if they say Dual Link have to be powered to work. they cant be a straight adapter.

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1 minute ago, mariushm said:

Cheap HDMI->DVI adapters are DVI Single Link which means you'll be limited to 60 Hz.

 

HDMI/DP to DVI-DL (dual link) adapters/converters are rare and expensive.

yep, thats what it seems, and apparently the dual link adapters dont really work great either though? cant believe it. i have to buy a new monitor ffs

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Just now, kilrath81 said:

I just got boned by the same thing. I had an acer that was 144hz over DVI-D only. The cheapest adapter i could find (it has to be truely active) was about $160 so i just went out and upgraded to 1440 at 144hz with DP. Best i could do with my acer was overclock to 72hz on HDMI to get a half refresh to the 144hz for stutter issues. The adapters even if they say Dual Link have to be powered to work. they cant be a straight adapter.

looked like im f***ed doesnt it? haha, guess im looking at new monitors now. cant believe this. absolutely bent over. ffs benq

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Any actual computer hardware specialist you talk to will tell you DVI is now considered Legacy and has been all but dropped by manufacturers. Bit the bullet now, the next upgrade will be no different.

 

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Just now, kilrath81 said:

Any actual computer hardware specialist you talk to will tell you DVI is now considered Legacy and has been all but dropped by manufacturers. Bit the bullet now, the next upgrade will be no different.

yup, i get it to be honest. but why did benq not support 144hz even on the hdmi?

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The standard at the time i dont think could. At best 1080p at 120 was all you could do on HDMI 1.4

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Just now, kilrath81 said:

The standard at the time i dont think could. At best 1080p at 120 was all you could do on HDMI 1.4

fair, should have used dp then? the monitor has been designed to die... its not that old, dvi would have been on its last legs even back then

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Pissed me off to find it out too. DP has been around a long time. I dont know if it was planned obsolescence or short sighted on their part. I dont know when the models came out. i bought my 144hz DVI-D Acer 2 years ago only and now i cant really use it but was it on the market for 4 or 5 by then? They may have thought at the time that DVI-D was going to survive the test of time...

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2 minutes ago, kilrath81 said:

Pissed me off to find it out too. DP has been around a long time. I dont know if it was planned obsolescence or short sighted on their part. I dont know when the models came out. i bought my 144hz DVI-D Acer 2 years ago only and now i cant really use it but was it on the market for 4 or 5 by then? They may have thought at the time that DVI-D was going to survive the test of time...

nobody knows except them. cant believe ive just upgraded a graphics card now i have to buy a new monitor...

 

never even thought. nothing i can do tbh, doubt any 5700xt is going to have dvi anyway?

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You could always do the search. Never know, a board partner might have a entry level version with a DVI-D on it. 

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1 minute ago, kilrath81 said:

You could always do the search. Never know, a board partner might have a entry level version with a DVI-D on it. 

ive just had a scroll though a load and they all seem to have 3 dp and 1 hdmi just like mine. i wouldnt expect dvi tbh, but i never expected there to not be an adaptor haha

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Lots of cheap adapters, only people this really effects is the over 60hz crowd. Anyone else can use the cheap hdmi->DVI Single Link adapters.

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24 minutes ago, Will01 said:

So i have a BenQ xl2411t monitor. it has hdmi, dvi and vga. so obviously vga is out of the question. apparently the hdmi is 1.4, so the same with that. So it leaves us with DVI. I've had that working for the last 2ish years with my gtx1060. but now ive just gone and upgraded to a 5700xt. It only has hdmi and display port. So, i have nowhere to plug my dvi cable. and people on the internet seem to be confused and say a simple adapter will not work? Any idea. one forum came to the conclusion to "just buy a new monitor". surely this isnt the case? hahaha

Heh. I’m having a similar problem. Single channel DVI is only good up to 1080p and I’ve had a heckuva time getting anything to translate.  Dual channel DVI is required, but dual channel dvi hasn’t been made for a long time.  DisplayPort  -> DisplayPort to dual link dviD adaptor -> monitor  is giving me only 1280x800 and I can’t seem to get it higher.

 

im looking at buying a new monitor too.

Not a pro, not even very good.  I’m just old and have time currently.  Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake.

 

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just found someone super local selling a Samsung CFG73 

 

Spoke to them and they said it has display port and that is what is required for the 144hz. anyone know if this monitor is any good? haha might go and get it tomorrow morning. cant stand this new pc upgrade with 60hz ?

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12 minutes ago, kilrath81 said:

You could always do the search. Never know, a board partner might have a entry level version with a DVI-D on it. 

Did the search. There are some Vega cars new but everything else is old

Not a pro, not even very good.  I’m just old and have time currently.  Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake.

 

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Just now, Bombastinator said:

Heh. I’m having a similar problem. Single channel DVI is only good up to 1080p and I’ve had a heckuva time getting anything to translate.  Dual channel DVI is required, but dual channel dvi hasn’t been made for a long time.  DisplayPort  -> DisplayPort to dual link dviD adaptor -> monitor  is giving me only 1280x800 and I can’t seem to get it higher.

 

im looking at buying a new monitor too.

its a bit of a joke isnt it.

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5 minutes ago, kilrath81 said:

Lots of cheap adapters, only people this really effects is the over 60hz crowd. Anyone else can use the cheap hdmi->DVI Single Link adapters.

Nope.  Can’t even get 1080p.

Not a pro, not even very good.  I’m just old and have time currently.  Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake.

 

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3 minutes ago, Will01 said:

just found someone super local selling a Samsung CFG73 

 

Spoke to them and they said it has display port and that is what is required for the 144hz. anyone know if this monitor is any good? haha might go and get it tomorrow morning. cant stand this new pc upgrade with 60hz ?

Sounds a bit like the problem I’m running into.  My monitor is a crossover 30q5 pro.  That dvi has to be dual link dvi and so far I’m finding that to be bad juju

Not a pro, not even very good.  I’m just old and have time currently.  Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake.

 

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Sounds a bit like the problem I’m running into.  My monitor is a crossover 30q5 pro.  That dvi has to be dual link dvi and so far I’m finding that to be bad juju. I wouldn’t buy it.

Not a pro, not even very good.  I’m just old and have time currently.  Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake.

 

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33 minutes ago, mariushm said:

Cheap HDMI->DVI adapters are DVI Single Link which means you'll be limited to 60 Hz.

 

HDMI/DP to DVI-DL (dual link) adapters/converters are rare and expensive.

so they at least exist.  That’s something.

Not a pro, not even very good.  I’m just old and have time currently.  Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake.

 

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1 minute ago, Bombastinator said:

so they at least exist.  That’s something.

yeah but in no way worth it. i saw one for like 150 or something hahaha. and they are apparently hella unreliable and cause loads of problems with sleep/wake etc.

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8 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

Nope.  Can’t even get 1080p.

i could get 1080p 60hz

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10 minutes ago, kilrath81 said:

i could get 1080p 60hz

I thought I was getting that but when I looked at the type it was interpolated.

Not a pro, not even very good.  I’m just old and have time currently.  Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake.

 

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