Extreme Power throttle limit

[WhyThereIsAPieOverHead]

my MSI GF63 9RCX is having a lot of problem, which i cant fix, and here is a serious problem, when i stress test my laptop with XTU, it have power limit thorottling, and speed is reduced to 1.2 ghz help

[Jurrunio]

power, or thermals? H suffix CPUs should hit 45w no problem unless it has a really low power limit, which XTU can show (as PL1 and PL2)

[WhyThereIsAPieOverHead]

Just now, Jurrunio said:

power, or thermals?

Power limit

 

[Jurrunio]

Just now, WhyThereIsAPieOverHead said:

Power limit

 

check PL1 setting in XTU. Does package power hit that?

[WhyThereIsAPieOverHead]

Just now, Jurrunio said:

check PL1 setting in XTU. Does package power hit that?

what is PL1 how can i find it

 

[Jurrunio]

3 minutes ago, WhyThereIsAPieOverHead said:

what is PL1 how can i find it

 

it should be in the same page as the core multipliers and stuff, if my memory doesn't fail me. Just look through every submenu otherwise.

[WhyThereIsAPieOverHead]

Just now, Jurrunio said:

it should be in the same page as the core multipliers and stuff, if my memory doesn't fail me. Just look through every submenu otherwise.

are you talking about Throttle stop?

because i cant find PL1 in XTU

 

[Jurrunio]

1 minute ago, WhyThereIsAPieOverHead said:

are you talking about Throttle stop?

because i cant find PL1 in XTU

 

Throttlestop also has this option, but I do recall seeing it in XTU

[WhyThereIsAPieOverHead]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Throttlestop also has this option, but I do recall seeing it in XTU

cant find it

 

[porina]

Is the laptop battery full and plugged into wall power? When I had an MSI laptop you have to have both of these to get max performance out of it.

[Jurrunio]

2 minutes ago, WhyThereIsAPieOverHead said:

cant find it

 

Apparently it's called Turbo Boost Power Max (PL1) and Turbo Boost Short Power Max (PL2), how dumb since their documents call them PL1 and PL2

[WhyThereIsAPieOverHead]

1 minute ago, porina said:

Is the laptop battery full and plugged into wall power? When I had an MSI laptop you have to have both of these to get max performance out of it.

yes it is full and plugged in

 

[WhyThereIsAPieOverHead]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

Apparently it's called Turbo Boost Power Max (PL1) and Turbo Boost Short Power Max (PL2), how dumb since their documents call them PL1 and PL2

oh

PL1 I set it to 65w

PL2  set it to 90w

 

[Jurrunio]

Just now, WhyThereIsAPieOverHead said:

oh

PL1 I set it to 65w

PL2  set it to 90w

 

So is the CPU hitting any one of them?

[WhyThereIsAPieOverHead]

Just now, Jurrunio said:

So is the CPU hitting any one of them?

no

cpu never hit 44w or above

thats the problem because i still have power throttling

 

[Jurrunio]

1 minute ago, WhyThereIsAPieOverHead said:

no

cpu never hit 44w or above

thats the problem because i still have power throttling

 

it's a VRM heat issue then. Better RMA for that since you need to know what you're doing before you could fix it (and could include DIY mods)

[WhyThereIsAPieOverHead]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

it's a VRM heat issue then. Better RMA for that since you need to know what you're doing before you could fix it (and could include DIY mods)

it never hits 70c and i have set fan to max and added a cooler under my laptop

what could go wrong

also i have tried both undervolt and default 

still no avail 

[Jurrunio]

1 minute ago, WhyThereIsAPieOverHead said:

it never hits 70c and i have set fan to max and added a cooler under my laptop

what could go wrong

also i have tried both undervolt and default 

still no avail 

99% of laptops out there do not have VRM temperature readings, all they have is this "dont melt stuff inside" throttling behaviour.

[WhyThereIsAPieOverHead]

Just now, Jurrunio said:

99% of laptops out there do not have VRM temperature readings, all they have is this "dont melt stuff inside" throttling behaviour.

if i dont do stress test, it can go 4 ghz, once i click start test, it drops to 2 ghz immidiately and keep reducing speed

[WhyThereIsAPieOverHead]

also i want my laptop to be hotter so it can heat my room, my room is freezing

[Jurrunio]

1 minute ago, WhyThereIsAPieOverHead said:

if i dont do stress test, it can go 4 ghz, once i click start test, it drops to 2 ghz immidiately and keep reducing speed

VRM heats up following power draw, higher clock doesnt always mean higher power draw.

 

does it do the same thing with other stress test software? Does Cinebench score drop when you run it repeatedly and by how much?

 

[WhyThereIsAPieOverHead]

idk, i only have xtu and throttle stop, hwmonitor for monitoring

[WhyThereIsAPieOverHead]

5 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

VRM heats up following power draw, higher clock doesnt always mean higher power draw.

 

does it do the same thing with other stress test software? Does Cinebench score drop when you run it repeatedly and by how much?

 

i just tested it with aida64 , still throttling