Does RX 570 Bottleneck on Overclocked i7 960?

[AbdulBais7]

Does RX 570 Bottleneck on Overclocked i7 960?

[Zando_]

If anything that CPU might bottleneck the RX 570, but it should be a solid combo. What's your full setup (mobo, RAM, cooler, PSU, etc)?

[AbdulBais7]

16Gigs 1600mhz Cooler Master Hyper N520 Cooler MSI X580M Mobo gonna Change PSU If I upgrade to RX570

[AbdulBais7]

5 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

If anything that CPU might bottleneck the RX 570, but it should be a solid combo. What's your full setup (mobo, RAM, cooler, PSU, etc)?

16Gigs 1600mhz Cooler Master Hyper N520 Cooler MSI X580M Mobo gonna Change PSU If I upgrade to RX570

[bipolarsuxs]

20 minutes ago, AbdulBais7 said:

Does RX 570 Bottleneck on Overclocked i7 960?

You should be fine. I had an Rx 570 on an Intel Quad Core and I played BF4 at pretty decent quality 1920/1080

[Zando_]

2 minutes ago, AbdulBais7 said:

16Gigs 1600mhz Cooler Master Hyper N520 Cooler MSI X580M Mobo gonna Change PSU If I upgrade to RX570

Looks like a solid cooler. If you do a well tuned OC you shouldn't have any issues with an RX570, but modern games will give you a hard time (my OCed i7 950 didn't have much fun in Destiny 2, lol). What OC are you running right now? 

And if you're looking to get the best out of your platform, here's some suggestions:

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If you want a CPU upgrade, look around for a good deal on an i7 970 or higher. Your board probably doesn't support Westmere-EP Xeons (they're dirt cheap but most MSI boards don't like them), but the 6c/12t Gulftown i7s are 32nm as well. Meaning they run cooler and often OC better since you have more thermal headroom. 

I'd add another 8GB stick of RAM (preferably the same model, speed, and timings) so you can run triple channel for better bandwidth. If you OC your RAM well you'll be closer to the performance of some DDR4 stuff, and the X58 platform needs all the edge it can get. 

As for a PSU, I'd reccomend the Corsair CX550, it's usually cheap and they're solid units. I have a CX550 and CX450M, both have given me 0 trouble on any of the rigs I've ran them in. 
 

[AbdulBais7]

1 minute ago, bipolarsuxs said:

You should be fine. I had an Rx 570 on an Intel Quad Core and I played BF4 at pretty decent quality 1920/1080

Well BF4 is pretty old game now so I think It's an big issue for an RX 570 to run at Ultra 1080p but I wanna play Game Like PUBG Steam, Dishonored 2 on Ultra 1080p

[AbdulBais7]

3 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Looks like a solid cooler. If you do a well tuned OC you shouldn't have any issues with an RX570, but modern games will give you a hard time (my OCed i7 950 didn't have much fun in Destiny 2, lol). What OC are you running right now? 

And if you're looking to get the best out of your platform, here's some suggestions:

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If you want a CPU upgrade, look around for a good deal on an i7 970 or higher. Your board probably doesn't support Westmere-EP Xeons (they're dirt cheap but most MSI boards don't like them), but the 6c/12t Gulftown i7s are 32nm as well. Meaning they run cooler and often OC better since you have more thermal headroom. 

I'd add another 8GB stick of RAM (preferably the same model, speed, and timings) so you can run triple channel for better bandwidth. If you OC your RAM well you'll be closer to the performance of some DDR4 stuff, and the X58 platform needs all the edge it can get. 

As for a PSU, I'd reccomend the Corsair CX550, it's usually cheap and they're solid units. I have a CX550 and CX450M, both have given me 0 trouble on any of the rigs I've ran them in. 
 

Well Currently I'm running at Stocks because these days I just play CSGO, Yeah I'll do OC as well but searching for Best Budget Thermal Paste, got any recommendation on them ?

[Zando_]

2 minutes ago, AbdulBais7 said:

Well Currently I'm running at Stocks because these days I just play CSGO, Yeah I'll do OC as well but searching for Best Budget Thermal Paste, got any recommendation on them ?

Yeah, just get thermal paste. There’s like a 5C difference between the best stuff on the market and the cheaper paste. Like a 10C difference between the best money can buy and actual toothpaste. Get any stuff from a decent brand that’s in your price range and you’ll be fine. 

As for the OC, ever overclocked on X58? More goes into it than modern stuff but if you do it right you can get really noticeable gains in performance. You’ll especially need that in PUBG, it’s brutal on the CPU. 

[AbdulBais7]

1 minute ago, Zando Bob said:

Yeah, just get thermal paste. There’s like a 5C difference between the best stuff on the market and the cheaper paste. Like a 10C difference between the best money can buy and actual toothpaste. Get any stuff from a decent brand that’s in your price range and you’ll be fine. 

As for the OC, ever overclocked on X58? More goes into it than modern stuff but if you do it right you can get really noticeable gains in performance. You’ll especially need that in PUBG, it’s brutal on the CPU. 

Well I've tried it on 4GHz but Thermal Paste is cheap af its HY880 and Idle Temps are 54C while under Stress they just boost upto 90-95C So definitely not Safe that's why I want something Like Arctic MX-4 or Arctic Sliver 5 (also what about GD900) ?

[Zando_]

Just now, AbdulBais7 said:

Well I've tried it on 4GHz but Thermal Paste is cheap af its HY880 and Idle Temps are 54C while under Stress they just boost upto 90-95C So definitely not Safe that's why I want something Like Arctic MX-4 or Arctic Sliver 5 (also what about GD900) ?

MX-4 is excellent, go with that. And what stress tests? 

[AbdulBais7]

Just now, Zando Bob said:

MX-4 is excellent, go with that. And what stress tests? 

on Current Thermal Paste ?

 

[Zando_]

Just now, AbdulBais7 said:

on Current Thermal Paste ?

What stress tests are you running where it hits the 90s? 

[AbdulBais7]

Just now, Zando Bob said:

What stress tests are you running where it hits the 90s? 

PRIME 95 for 30mins and also have tried GTA V for like 1-2 Hours 

[Zando_]

2 minutes ago, AbdulBais7 said:

PRIME 95 for 30mins and also have tried GTA V for like 1-2 Hours 

Ah yeah, Prime95 is good for testing the absolute max thermals (with small FFT, it's only meant for a 10 minute run). Not much else pushes the CPU as hard as that. When I had my 5820K on air it'd hit 93-94C in Prime95, in games and normal windows stuff it barely broke 60C. 

What voltage and all are you running on your CPU? I pushed 1.425v or so through my i7 950 on a Gammax 400. Smaller cooler but I did have two Noctua NF-F12s slapped to 3000rpm in either side. I was hitting the 90s in stress tests, didn't go much past the 70s-80s in games and such. Even 90C is technically safe, and these CPUs can take a beating. 1.4v is safe for daily OCs, maybe 1.425 on these 45nm chips, and you can do 1.45v easily on water or high end air cooling. 

[AbdulBais7]

1 minute ago, Zando Bob said:

Ah yeah, Prime95 is good for testing the absolute max thermals (with small FFT, it's only meant for a 10 minute run). Not much else pushes the CPU as hard as that. When I had my 5820K on air it'd hit 93-94C in Prime95, in games and normal windows stuff it barely broke 60C. 

What voltage and all are you running on your CPU? I pushed 1.425v or so through my i7 950 on a Gammax 400. Smaller cooler but I did have two Noctua NF-F12s slapped to 3000rpm in either side. I was hitting the 90s in stress tests, didn't go much past the 70s-80s in games and such. Even 90C is technically safe, and these CPUs can take a beating. 1.4v is safe for daily OCs, maybe 1.425 on these 45nm chips, and you can do 1.45v easily on water or high end air cooling. 

Which Thermal Paste you're using ?

[Zando_]

Just now, AbdulBais7 said:

Which Thermal Paste you're using ?

NT-H1, MX-4, I think some random Cryorig stuff, NT-H2, Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut. A range of stuff, all of it is fine. Thermal paste doesn't make much of a difference at all, it's the cooler itself that makes most of the difference. 

As I said, there's no noticeable increase with different pastes:


There's a 4.7C difference between the best thermal paste on the market (Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut) and the bottom one on this test (Titan Nano Blue, the lower stuff is tape and other stuff). 

There's a 13.9C difference between the best thermal paste on the market and actual toothpaste. 

MX-4 is only 1.7C off from the Kryonaut, aka you won't even notice that because your fan speed will make more of a difference than that. 

Speaking of fans, you have this cooler?

 

Looks like a solid unit. You've got a full copper plate, 4 beefy heatpipes on either side, and a nice big finstack. Should be able to cool even those hot 45nm CPUs at 1.4v just fine. 

[AbdulBais7]

4 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

NT-H1, MX-4, I think some random Cryorig stuff, NT-H2, Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut. A range of stuff, all of it is fine. Thermal paste doesn't make much of a difference at all, it's the cooler itself that makes most of the difference. 

As I said, there's no noticeable increase with different pastes:


There's a 4.7C difference between the best thermal paste on the market (Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut) and the bottom one on this test (Titan Nano Blue, the lower stuff is tape and other stuff). 

There's a 13.9C difference between the best thermal paste on the market and actual toothpaste. 

MX-4 is only 1.7C off from the Kryonaut, aka you won't even notice that because your fan speed will make more of a difference than that. 

Speaking of fans, you have this cooler?

 

Looks like a solid unit. You've got a full copper plate, 4 beefy heatpipes on either side, and a nice big finstack. Should be able to cool even those hot 45nm CPUs at 1.4v just fine. 

Yes this is my cooler and It has 5 heat pipes*

 

[AbdulBais7]

Just now, AbdulBais7 said:

Yes this is my cooler and It has 5 heat pipes*

 

 

5 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

NT-H1, MX-4, I think some random Cryorig stuff, NT-H2, Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut. A range of stuff, all of it is fine. Thermal paste doesn't make much of a difference at all, it's the cooler itself that makes most of the difference. 

As I said, there's no noticeable increase with different pastes:


There's a 4.7C difference between the best thermal paste on the market (Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut) and the bottom one on this test (Titan Nano Blue, the lower stuff is tape and other stuff). 

There's a 13.9C difference between the best thermal paste on the market and actual toothpaste. 

MX-4 is only 1.7C off from the Kryonaut, aka you won't even notice that because your fan speed will make more of a difference than that. 

Speaking of fans, you have this cooler?

 

Looks like a solid unit. You've got a full copper plate, 4 beefy heatpipes on either side, and a nice big finstack. Should be able to cool even those hot 45nm CPUs at 1.4v just fine. 

I think I'm not setting the Voltages to Stable ones as I'm only Playing with Frequency ( Actually not an Overclocker maybe you can help me )

[Zando_]

17 minutes ago, AbdulBais7 said:

Yes this is my cooler and It has 5 heat pipes*

 

True it'd technically be 5, but 4 on either side. There's 3 that loop through the whole cooler like a big U, and then two offset ones on either end that only go through one side of the finstack and end on the other side of the copper plate. 
 

16 minutes ago, AbdulBais7 said:

I think I'm not setting the Voltages to Stable ones as I'm only Playing with Frequency ( Actually not an Overclocker maybe you can help me )

Ooooooooh yeah your CPU will pull stupid voltages if you don't set it manually, lol. Set your CPU voltage to 1.425v for starters, that should be safe for a good few years, you can bring it down a bit once you're fine tuning the OC. 

I can try and walk you through it tonight when I'm home from work. I'll slap a GPU and windows drive on my X58 mobo and get into the BIOS again. I haven't worked on tweaking it in a good few months so I don't remember the exact names of everything. OCing on X58 is a balancing act between the BLCK, CPU, RAM, and Uncore multipliers. Here's a good guide by Tech Yes City:

 

This is for a Xeon, but the OC process is exactly the same on your i7. Keep in mind you can push slightly higher voltages than the 32nm chips, but if you're a beginner I'd stick with the same ones since they're like 99% safe. 

EDIT: here's a text walk-through too: https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/overclocking-the-x58-a-practical-guide.108526/
 

[AbdulBais7]

26 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

True it'd technically be 5, but 4 on either side. There's 3 that loop through the whole cooler like a big U, and then two offset ones on either end that only go through one side of the finstack and end on the other side of the copper plate. 
 

Ooooooooh yeah your CPU will pull stupid voltages if you don't set it manually, lol. Set your CPU voltage to 1.425v for starters, that should be safe for a good few years, you can bring it down a bit once you're fine tuning the OC. 

I can try and walk you through it tonight when I'm home from work. I'll slap a GPU and windows drive on my X58 mobo and get into the BIOS again. I haven't worked on tweaking it in a good few months so I don't remember the exact names of everything. OCing on X58 is a balancing act between the BLCK, CPU, RAM, and Uncore multipliers. Here's a good guide by Tech Yes City:

 

This is for a Xeon, but the OC process is exactly the same on your i7. Keep in mind you can push slightly higher voltages than the 32nm chips, but if you're a beginner I'd stick with the same ones since they're like 99% safe. 

EDIT: here's a text walk-through too: https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/overclocking-the-x58-a-practical-guide.108526/
 

man that will really help me alot  I'll try it Tomorrow  here in my Country it's 12:30AM now 

[bipolarsuxs]

5 hours ago, AbdulBais7 said:

Well BF4 is pretty old game now so I think It's an big issue for an RX 570 to run at Ultra 1080p but I wanna play Game Like PUBG Steam, Dishonored 2 on Ultra 1080p

True but I had an old processor and the 570 was good. Anything SSE4 or DX 12 and nope, some DX 11 like Madden, easy stuff.

[AbdulBais7]

15 hours ago, Zando Bob said:

True it'd technically be 5, but 4 on either side. There's 3 that loop through the whole cooler like a big U, and then two offset ones on either end that only go through one side of the finstack and end on the other side of the copper plate. 
 

Ooooooooh yeah your CPU will pull stupid voltages if you don't set it manually, lol. Set your CPU voltage to 1.425v for starters, that should be safe for a good few years, you can bring it down a bit once you're fine tuning the OC. 

I can try and walk you through it tonight when I'm home from work. I'll slap a GPU and windows drive on my X58 mobo and get into the BIOS again. I haven't worked on tweaking it in a good few months so I don't remember the exact names of everything. OCing on X58 is a balancing act between the BLCK, CPU, RAM, and Uncore multipliers. Here's a good guide by Tech Yes City:

 

This is for a Xeon, but the OC process is exactly the same on your i7. Keep in mind you can push slightly higher voltages than the 32nm chips, but if you're a beginner I'd stick with the same ones since they're like 99% safe. 

EDIT: here's a text walk-through too: https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/overclocking-the-x58-a-practical-guide.108526/
 

I tried it Today and Here's the Result : that's the 5mins of Prime 95 and Also Gonna check Some Games: Like GTA V, CSGO and Stuff btw it's OC'ed on 3.8Ghz