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Choosing between R5 3600 or R7 3700x

Vossy

Hello! Hope you're all well. 

I'm a little stuck on which CPU to pick up this coming Friday. 

I'm ugprading my current system to make it more suitable for moderate workstation use on top of the gaming it already does - I've already got a Vega 56 (Which I may flash to Vega 64 bios), 16GB DDR4 - Only at 2666 though & an i3 9100F. 

 

My understanding is that both the R5 3600 & R7 3700x are very capable chips in terms of both gaming and workstation use. In terms of the workload, the system will be used for 2D game development & 1080p video editing in Vegas in addition to 1080p gaming. In this case, I'm just wondering if I'll actually see any noticeable benefits from buying the 3700x over the 3600 - I know in video editing it'll help decrease render times, but realistically this'll only be by a minute or two, and I'm happy to wait that extra time just to save £100 or so. In terms of 2D development, even my i3 was perfectly capable of handling it - Would be a different story if it was 3D Development, but I have no intentions of using it for that anytime soon. 

 

Obviously future proofing is a consideration, but I can't see the R5 3600 becoming obsolete anytime soon. 

 

What do you guys suggest? 

 

Thanks in advance! 

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The value of 3600 can't be beat, i bought the 3700x, but i realized that i would have been perfectly happy with the 3600, and would have saved a 100 bucks.

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7 minutes ago, Vossy said:

only be by a minute or two

so it only takes about 15-20 minutes with the i3?

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

so it only takes about 15-20 minutes with the i3?

I have no idea how long it takes with the i3 because I've never tried - I imagine quite a while though, which is why I have no interest in using it for that.

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4 minutes ago, Vossy said:

I have no idea how long it takes with the i3 because I've never tried - I imagine quite a while though, which is why I have no interest in using it for that.

Do you have a project ready for testing on the i3? That can give you an idea whether the 3700x indeed only saves you a couple of minutes on top of the 3600.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Just now, Jurrunio said:

Do you have a project ready for testing on the i3? That can give you an idea whether the 3700x indeed only saves you a couple of minutes on top of the 3600.

All of the benchmarks I've seen show only a couple of minutes difference when it comes to 1080p editing, although the gap widens significantly when it comes to 4K editing but I don't really have any plans to do that at the moment. The i3 is capable of video editing, but the experience is less than ideal when doing it on a near-daily basis. Had considered the i7 9700K but going with Intel at the moment just seems like a waste of money.

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1 minute ago, jah118 said:

what Motherboard do you have in mind to use ?

The one I have in mind is the B450M MORTAR MAX as it supposedly has fairly decent VRMs. Not entirely sure on the difference between the regular B450M Mortar compared to the MAX aside from the fact the MAX supports 3rd Gen Ryzen out of the box

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3 minutes ago, Vossy said:

All of the benchmarks

then why not use your own project as the benchmark? The effects you apply can affect the speed, greatly, let alone software. My 8750H's rendering performance was said to be decent in reviews, but when I try rendering scenes with my Solidworks project with Photoview 360, it takes 15 minutes to render A FRAME. That's why benchmarks are only comparable between CPUs, not a reflection of your actual workload.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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