Need help with a mac

[Sniperxxx88]

I have a older mac running 10.5.8 and its acting like its bricked 

[Euchre]

Is that a 'desk lamp' iMac? That'd be a 15-17 year old computer. It might just be really broken.

[Electronics Wizardy]

try doing a reinstall

[harryk]

1 hour ago, Euchre said:

Is that a 'desk lamp' iMac? That'd be a 15-17 year old computer. It might just be really broken.

It's an Apple Studio Display; I'm guessing it's connected to a Power Mac G5, so yeah old.

 

@Sniperxxx88 that screen indicates a kernel panic occurred. If it's happening every time you start up it likely means some form of hardware issue or failure. If you have the original OS install discs you can boot from those and run a hardware diagnostics test.

[Kisai]

2 hours ago, Sniperxxx88 said:

I have a older mac running 10.5.8 and its acting like its bricked 

 

The hard drive has probably bit the dust. You can replace the drive and use the original discs, get them from eBay, or just get a mac hard drive image from another mac (assuming you have another mac of the same vintage) and use that drive, or make a backup of that drive onto a larger drive. You can use up to a 2TB drive on a PPC Mac and still have it boot.

 

If it's an old Intel Mac, the last version is 10.6.8

If it's a PPC Mac, the last version is 10.5.8

 

 

 

[Sniperxxx88]

6 hours ago, Kisai said:

 

The hard drive has probably bit the dust. You can replace the drive and use the original discs, get them from eBay, or just get a mac hard drive image from another mac (assuming you have another mac of the same vintage) and use that drive, or make a backup of that drive onto a larger drive. You can use up to a 2TB drive on a PPC Mac and still have it boot.

 

If it's an old Intel Mac, the last version is 10.6.8

If it's a PPC Mac, the last version is 10.5.8

 

 

 

It's a power mac 6.3 running mac os 10.5.8 and I dont have the disks we got it from a yard sale and my wife and I neither one of us have ever used a mac before I'm a pc guy so I thought I would give a mac a try and we got this one for 40$ at a yard sale so basically we should  Recycle it?

[Sniperxxx88]

8 hours ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

try doing a reinstall

We cant even get the disk drive to open so what I'm trying to do is I'm using trans mac to flash the new os on to the ssd that was in the system 

[Electronics Wizardy]

2 hours ago, Sniperxxx88 said:

We cant even get the disk drive to open so what I'm trying to do is I'm using trans mac to flash the new os on to the ssd that was in the system 

what exact model is this?

 

it should boot from usb on those.

3 hours ago, Sniperxxx88 said:

It's a power mac 6.3 running

Is this a powermac g4 tower?

 

3 hours ago, Sniperxxx88 said:

I thought I would give a mac a try and we got this one for 40$ at a yard sale so basically we should  Recycle it?

Its way too old if you want to give a mac a shot. No modern software will run on it. Get something intel based atleast if you want to play around with a mac

[Sniperxxx88]

This is the tower and I'm a pc guy so I'm trying to figure out how to flash a drive with out having another mac to do it 

[Sniperxxx88]

3 minutes ago, Sniperxxx88 said:

This is the tower and I'm a pc guy so I'm trying to figure out how to flash a drive with out having another mac to do it 

The blue owc ssd is what came in the system when we bought it 

[Electronics Wizardy]

59 minutes ago, Sniperxxx88 said:

This is the tower and I'm a pc guy so I'm trying to figure out how to flash a drive with out having another mac to do it 

you need a mac for this as they only boot from apt drives, not the normal mbr or gpt drives.

 

 

[Sniperxxx88]

6 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

you need a mac for this as they only boot from apt drives, not the normal mbr or gpt drives.

 

 

And this morning I booted it up and tried some commands and got this 

[Electronics Wizardy]

1 minute ago, Sniperxxx88 said:

And this morning I booted it up and tried some commands and got this 

can you get into single user mode, will it drop you to a shell?

[Sniperxxx88]

There is nothing I could so when I was at that screen but reboot 

[Electronics Wizardy]

55 minutes ago, Sniperxxx88 said:

There is nothing I could so when I was at that screen but reboot 

what happends when you hold cmd + s when booting?

 

how did you get to that screen?

[Sniperxxx88]

I think it was CMD+s and we also tried just holding shift to boot in to safe mode and all I could do it just reboot the system I dont know much or at all about mac's I have been doing alot of research on this power mac and how to get past the please reboot screen that I posted with the main post

[Electronics Wizardy]

33 minutes ago, Sniperxxx88 said:

I think it was CMD+s and we also tried just holding shift to boot in to safe mode and all I could do it just reboot the system I dont know much or at all about mac's I have been doing alot of research on this power mac and how to get past the please reboot screen that I posted with the main post

reinstall seems like the best way here,but your gonna need a mac to do that, and preferably a older mac.

 

But really, unless you like old macs id sell it. Its way to old to be usefull.

[Sniperxxx88]

Yeah that's what I thought about doing and just put on it that it works but needs a fresh install of mac os correct 

[Electronics Wizardy]

2 minutes ago, Sniperxxx88 said:

Yeah that's what I thought about doing and just put on it that it works but needs a fresh install of mac os correct 

but what needs a fresh install of mac os?

you can sell it with an os install, most people who wants these know how to install an os on it.

[Sniperxxx88]

Yeah so I want to thank all of you for being so nice and trying to help me I have been watching LTT for years now linus has helped me with some of the problems i have had and I have always hear them talking about the forum and so I finally joined and it was the best thing I could have done so again thank you all 

[Kisai]

7 hours ago, Sniperxxx88 said:

Yeah that's what I thought about doing and just put on it that it works but needs a fresh install of mac os correct 

 

Well if you're not wanting to invest more money in it, I'd just sell it and state that the OS is crashed, so the buyer will need to reinstall the OS.

 

Personally, I'd wipe the drive in case there is someone's personal info/photos/stuff-you-don't-wanna-know on it.

 

If you've tried Command-R at boot to see if a recovery partition is present, you can use that. Otherwise just pull the drive, wipe it with your PC, DART, Linux, etc

[Sniperxxx88]

2 hours ago, Kisai said:

 

Well if you're not wanting to invest more money in it, I'd just sell it and state that the OS is crashed, so the buyer will need to reinstall the OS.

 

Personally, I'd wipe the drive in case there is someone's personal info/photos/stuff-you-don't-wanna-know on it.

 

If you've tried Command-R at boot to see if a recovery partition is present, you can use that. Otherwise just pull the drive, wipe it with your PC, DART, Linux, etc

Yeah I tried cmd + R and there was no recovery on it at all and I have been working on this computer now for 3 weeks trying to learn how it works and how to fix it that's also why I turned to the tech influencers and the vast community that it has tha you all for your help today 

[The_Prycer]

Seeing as you've already tried the boot command suggestion I was going to give, you can buy Mac OS discs off Amazon/Ebay for under $20 if you're really that invested in keeping this thing going. Hook up an external optical drive if your current one won't open and go to town 

 

If you've got a spare pc lying around I'd try to boot Linux (I prefer Puppy) on it and see if connecting your Mac's hard drive yields any recoverable results unless you happen to have a fairly recent time machine lying around.

 

Otherwise, I'd see about getting a refurbished unit like the 2010 or 2012 Mac Pro off a resale site if you still wish to stay on the Mac platform and value longevity.

 

 

[Zando_]

9 minutes ago, The_Prycer said:

Seeing as you've already tried the boot command suggestion I was going to give, you can buy Mac OS discs off Amazon/Ebay for under $20 if you're really that invested in keeping this thing going. Hook up an external optical drive if your current one won't open and go to town 

 

If you've got a spare pc lying around I'd try to boot Linux (I prefer Puppy) on it and see if connecting your Mac's hard drive yields any recoverable results unless you happen to have a fairly recent time machine lying around.

 

Otherwise, I'd see about getting a refurbished unit like the 2010 or 2012 Mac Pro off a resale site if you still wish to stay on the Mac platform and value longevity.

Does puppy have a PowerPC version? Totally different arch to Intel and AMD stuff, it's not compatible with most Linux distros, newer macOS, or Windows. 

The older Mac Pros can be excellent, some of them run dual LGA1366 Xeons, meaning you can upgrade them (they sell upgrade kits specifically for this) to two X5690s and have 12c/24t at a decent clockspeed. I think the newer ones use a single Xeon that can probably be upgraded as well, haven't looked into those. 

Is it possible to turn an install disc to an ISO you can burn to a flash drive? I've never tried that or booting from a flash drive while I had my PowerMac G5, but I do still have an OS X 10.5.8 disc somewhere around my place, it was stuck in the disc drive of a PowerBook my uncle gave me, I used it to update the PowerMac G5 since it came with Mac OS X 10.4.something (actually installed it on a different HDD so I could mess with both versions of the OS depending on what I booted to). 

[The_Prycer]

1 minute ago, Zando Bob said:

Does puppy have a PowerPC version? Totally different arch to Intel and AMD stuff, it's not compatible with most Linux distros, newer macOS, or Windows. 

The older Mac Pros can be excellent, some of them run dual LGA1366 Xeons, meaning you can upgrade them (they sell upgrade kits specifically for this) to two X5690s and have 12c/24t at a decent clockspeed. I think the newer ones use a single Xeon that can probably be upgraded as well, haven't looked into those. 

Is it possible to turn an install disc to an ISO you can burn to a flash drive? I've never tried that or booting from a flash drive while I had my PowerMac G5, but I do still have an OS X 10.5.8 disc somewhere around my place, it was stuck in the disc drive of a PowerBook my uncle gave me, I used it to update the PowerMac G5 since it came with Mac OS X 10.4.something (actually installed it on a different HDD so I could mess with both versions of the OS depending on what I booted to). 

Puppy does have a drive cloning tool that I like and I've used it over the years to upgrade my HDDs to SSDs. I haven't used it specifically in this case of MacOS file grabbing as I have external hard drives for time machine, but Puppy is a light enough distro that any PC OP has lying around should be able to boot it without issue and they can at least format the drive from there if they decide that Mac OS just isn't for them.

 

Is it wrong that I want a 2012 Mac Pro more than a shiny new Macbook?  I've eventually got to upgrade my 2012 Mac mini and I'm trying to price out if it would be cheaper to get a 2012 pro and max it out or just grab the newer mini since I'd get shinier OS and 10GB ethernet for NAS connectivity.