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10 minutes ago, The_Prycer said:

Is it wrong that I want a 2012 Mac Pro more than a shiny new Macbook?  I've eventually got to upgrade my 2012 Mac mini and I'm trying to price out if it would be cheaper to get a 2012 pro and max it out or just grab the newer mini since I'd get shinier OS and 10GB ethernet for NAS connectivity.

It's never wrong to love old hardware, especially when it's old enough to be awesome (and god is the classic Mac Pro/PowerMac chassis amazing and the layouts beautiful) but still works well enough to be used. You could always go for an old broken PowerMac G5 and strip out the internals then stuff a PC inside and run a hackintosh on one drive and a windows gaming install on a second, hell could have a third drive and run Linux if you wanted to. IIRC @DrMacintosh and @Crunchy Dragon have PC hardware running inside PowerMac/Mac Pro cases. 

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Just now, Zando Bob said:

It's never wrong to love old hardware, especially when it's old enough to be awesome (and god is the classic Mac Pro/PowerMac chassis amazing and the layouts beautiful) but still works well enough to be used. You could always go for an old broken PowerMac G5 and strip out the internals then stuff a PC inside and run a hackintosh on one drive and a windows gaming install on a second, hell could have a third drive and run Linux if you wanted to. IIRC @DrMacintosh and @Crunchy Dragon have PC hardware running inside PowerMac/Mac Pro cases. 

I feel that 2010-2014 was the best iterations of Mac. Magnetic attachments for power cables, decent I/O, modular pro models, sexy cases, and the server mac mini for hilariously small solutions. 

 

My current gaming rig doesn't use any hardware older than 2014 so I guess I'm just nostalgic for when bitcoin mining hadn't ruined the used GPU market.

 

I keep telling myself I'm going to build a hackintosh one day, but I keep getting sidetracked. That thing is never connecting to the Internet if I build it though.

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3 minutes ago, The_Prycer said:

I feel that 2010-2014 was the best iterations of Mac. Magnetic attachments for power cables, decent I/O, modular pro models, sexy cases, and the server mac mini for hilariously small solutions. 

 

My current gaming rig doesn't use any hardware older than 2014 so I guess I'm just nostalgic for when bitcoin mining hadn't ruined the used GPU market.

 

I keep telling myself I'm going to build a hackintosh one day, but I keep getting sidetracked. That thing is never connecting to the Internet if I build it though.

I have an Intel board I can run my i5 2400 in, I ran a hackintosh once with my 980 Ti and it did everything fine, even iMessage and such worked which is usually pretty jank. 

And yee, Steve Jobs era Macs were amazing. On the PowerMac G5 I had, thing was a work of art. Amazingly well built chassis, smart airflow, easy access to the interior, multiple easily swapped HDD bays, PCIe expansion, etc. On the 1st gen iMac I had trying to replace the CPUs was a horrible failure though, everything else was fine but those were a damn nightmare. Newer Mac Pros than that have the CPUs on a really awesome slide out "motherboard in a motherboard" thing so they're much easier to replace. 

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53 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

It's never wrong to love old hardware, especially when it's old enough to be awesome (and god is the classic Mac Pro/PowerMac chassis amazing and the layouts beautiful) but still works well enough to be used. You could always go for an old broken PowerMac G5 and strip out the internals then stuff a PC inside and run a hackintosh on one drive and a windows gaming install on a second, hell could have a third drive and run Linux if you wanted to. IIRC @DrMacintosh and @Crunchy Dragon have PC hardware running inside PowerMac/Mac Pro cases. 

I migrated to a Define R5, but I still have my ATX-ready Powermac G5 :)

I haven't ruled out building a hackintosh with it at some point in the future.

 

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Just now, Crunchy Dragon said:

I migrated to a Define R5, but I still have my ATX-ready Powermac G5 :)

I haven't ruled out building a hackintosh with it at some point in the future.

I need to ATX-ify a Powermac at some point... 

Is it possible to fit an SR-2 and EVGA T2 (or maybe dual SFX PSUs) in one I wonder, then stuff a loop in there because reasons and I have the blocks for it... 

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Just now, Zando Bob said:

fit an SR-2

It's on my bucket list. That board would probably be almost as big as the stock motherboard, but you could probably fit one in there.

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Just now, Crunchy Dragon said:

It's on my bucket list. That board would probably be almost as big as the stock motherboard, but you could probably fit one in there.

The SR-2 is about as big as an S340 Elite or Phanteks P350X, just a couple inches shorter from the ground up. 

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The SR-2 is about as big as an S340 Elite

*looks at S340 sitting under desk*

 

That's gonna be a tight fit.

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Just now, Crunchy Dragon said:

*looks at S340 sitting under desk*

 

That's gonna be a tight fit.

I think WhisperingKnickers fit his inside an S340 after cutting out most of the stuff inside the front of the case and the PSU shroud, lol. Has it inside some LianLi case now with some cutting done as well IIRC. 

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I have decided that I will sell the older one and I found a 2015 macbook at are local pawn shop for only 100$ and I am going to buy my wife that one. And I will load up bootcamp and sideload windows 10 on it because my kids play some games on windows that wont install on a mac because of the .exe file but I want to thank all of you for your advice and help though all of this 

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