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Just now, goshot said:

А колко години е гаранцията и къде я пишат?

3 години - стандартно за процесори - но споко, изгорял процесор съм виждал само веднъж - такава рядкост е, че повечето хора го смятат за невъзможно (и с право - все още имаме един Pentium 4 от 2003-та в офиса, който работи всеки ден)

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@5x5 А как работи гаранцията на никем, например ако нещо ми стане на видео картата, трябва да им я изпратя ли? Как точно става? Поправи ме ако греша, но като гледам са само онлайн магазин.

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18 minutes ago, goshot said:

@5x5 А как работи гаранцията на никем, например ако нещо ми стане на видео картата, трябва да им я изпратя ли? Как точно става? Поправи ме ако греша, но като гледам са само онлайн магазин.

Да, при всички магазини е така - звънкаш на тела и ти казват как се праща и къде да я пратиш с кой куриер.

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1 minute ago, 5x5 said:

Да, при всички магазини е така - звънкаш на тела и ти казват как се праща и къде да я пратиш с кой куриер.

Просто ми се струва по-удобно като имат физически магазин, да не зема да объркам нещо с изпращането и с куриерите.

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@fasauceome I don't think i'll be new games that much, and so i've been thinking about buying 8GB RAM instead of 16GB. What do you think? I wanna play sometimes, but i wanna do other sutff too like watching shows, studying and writing.

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@fasauceome accidentally tagged you the wrong way. Tried to edit but didn't work. Also regarding number of fans, how can i know how many fans i'll need? Is there any way to predict it? I guess looking at simillar builds but i can't find a build with the same case!

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16 minutes ago, goshot said:

@fasauceome accidentally tagged you the wrong way. Tried to edit but didn't work. Also regarding number of fans, how can i know how many fans i'll need? Is there any way to predict it? I guess looking at simillar builds but i can't find a build with the same case!

One fan intake and one fan output can often be sufficient, but the bread and butter of two intake and one output is my recommendation

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

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17 hours ago, fasauceome said:

One fan intake and one fan output can often be sufficient, but the bread and butter of two intake and one output is my recommendation

Thing is the case i'm looking at has only one front fan slot, 1 rear and 2 top, which should be intake and exhaust?
Also another question: If i'm not planning on playing much what would you recommend i do with my PC? I want to play the games i already mentioned but i'm not sure how much i'll play other stuff. I like writing and coming up with stories and i think this current build is waaay too much of an overkill for that, and i'd be wasting money getting stuff like the rx570, 16GB ram and not using it. Is there any writing PC builds, topics or suggestions?

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1 hour ago, goshot said:

Thing is the case i'm looking at has only one front fan slot, 1 rear and 2 top, which should be intake and exhaust?
Also another question: If i'm not planning on playing much what would you recommend i do with my PC? I want to play the games i already mentioned but i'm not sure how much i'll play other stuff. I like writing and coming up with stories and i think this current build is waaay too much of an overkill for that, and i'd be wasting money getting stuff like the rx570, 16GB ram and not using it. Is there any writing PC builds, topics or suggestions?

Never heard of a case with no front intake, sounds awful. I would honestly pick a different case. 

 

If you want to save cash, get a Ryzen 5 3400G and use that instead, it has powerful integrated graphics for light gaming.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I needATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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5 hours ago, fasauceome said:

Never heard of a case with no front intake, sounds awful. I would honestly pick a different case. 

 

If you want to save cash, get a Ryzen 5 3400G and use that instead, it has powerful integrated graphics for light gaming.

No no i said it has only 1 front intake slot, i'd like it to have 2 intakes but it has only 1.
I'll look into the Ryzen 3400G.

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@5x5 Да те питам, мислех за компа и мисля че няма да играя чак толкова много, ще играя игри като Dark Souls, Overwatch, Minecraft и може би нещо друго, но нямам особен интерес към най-новите игри. От горе на това искам да пиша книга и други неща, за които не е нужно силна видео карта и искам да спестя малко пари. Струва ми се сякаш ще взема rx 570 и няма да си струва като няма да играя много, сякаш си изгубих парите.
Какво мислиш? Струва ли си да взема rx 570 за няколко години напред, като не планирам да ъпгрейдвам нито да играя особено нови заглавия?

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45 minutes ago, goshot said:

@5x5 Да те питам, мислех за компа и мисля че няма да играя чак толкова много, ще играя игри като Dark Souls, Overwatch, Minecraft и може би нещо друго, но нямам особен интерес към най-новите игри. От горе на това искам да пиша книга и други неща, за които не е нужно силна видео карта и искам да спестя малко пари. Струва ми се сякаш ще взема rx 570 и няма да си струва като няма да играя много, сякаш си изгубих парите.
Какво мислиш? Струва ли си да взема rx 570 за няколко години напред, като не планирам да ъпгрейдвам нито да играя особено нови заглавия?

Струва си. Модерна, икономична карта с декодери ако решиш да гледаш или стриймваш от нетфликс нещо. И ако вземе че се появи нова игра, която те блазни можеш да я пуснеш без грижа. Хем сегашните игри ще вървят гладко и приятно. 

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@Fasauceome @5x5 Is it worth getting the Ryzen 5 1500X over the 2600 just to save some money? The prices here are 242 and 280 BGN respectively, which are about 138.29$ and 160$.

 

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14 minutes ago, goshot said:

@Fasauceome @5x5 Is it worth getting the Ryzen 5 1500X over the 2600 just to save some money? The prices here are 242 and 280 BGN respectively, which are about 138.29$ and 160$.

 

No - you lose 2 cores and 4 threads amounting to a 33% weaker CPU

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1 minute ago, 5x5 said:

No - you lose 2 cores and 4 threads amounting to a 33% weaker CPU

Не можах да намеря къде пише че е с 33% по бавен, може ли да ми пратиш линк?

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5 minutes ago, goshot said:

Не можах да намеря къде пише че е с 33% по бавен, може ли да ми пратиш линк?

Губиш 1/3 от ядрата. Следователно, губиш 1/3 от производителността. Скалирането е линейно

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42 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Губиш 1/3 от ядрата. Следователно, губиш 1/3 от производителността. Скалирането е линейно

Не мисля че точно така работи производителността, щото иначе във всички бенчмаркове 2600 ще е 33% по-добро от 1500x а то не е така.

Питам дали си струва даже ако малко ще играя, и то на по-стари игри.

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7 minutes ago, goshot said:

Не мисля че точно така работи производителността, щото иначе във всички бенчмаркове 2600 ще е 33% по-добро от 1500x а то не е така.

Питам дали си струва даже ако малко ще играя, и то на по-стари игри.

Напротив - така работи. Просто не всички игри могат адекватно да ползват ресурсите на модерните процесори. Но ти си решаваш - за мен 40лв отгоре си струват, като се има в предвид, че 4 ядра сега са минимума, а 6 ядра скоро ще станат минимума.

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1 hour ago, goshot said:

@Fasauceome @5x5 Is it worth getting the Ryzen 5 1500X over the 2600 just to save some money? The prices here are 242 and 280 BGN respectively, which are about 138.29$ and 160$.

 

Tiny price drop for significant performance drop, not worth. Actually, the Ryzen 5 1600 seems to come in cheaper than the 1500X a lot of the time, what would one of those cost you?

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I needATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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3 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

Tiny price drop for significant performance drop, not worth. Actually, the Ryzen 5 1600 seems to come in cheaper than the 1500X a lot of the time, what would one of those cost you?

230 BGN, which is 131.43 $

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2 minutes ago, goshot said:

230 BGN, which is 131.43 $

The 2600 seems the absolute best purchase then.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I needATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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7 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

The 2600 seems the absolute best purchase then.

Even if i'm not gaming that much?

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1 minute ago, goshot said:

Even if i'm not gaming that much?

The amount of gaming you do won't really affect the performance of your CPU, but if you mean to say that you game infrequently and don't really care about performance, then a Ryzen 3 1200 would be best. Competent but nothing special, it'll handle gaming at 1080p 60fps in a lot of titles.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I needATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explainedgroup reg is bad

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50 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

The amount of gaming you do won't really affect the performance of your CPU, but if you mean to say that you game infrequently and don't really care about performance, then a Ryzen 3 1200 would be best. Competent but nothing special, it'll handle gaming at 1080p 60fps in a lot of titles.

I'll consider it, also wouldn't changing my CPU also suggest i change the rest of my configuration? Just wondering, what would you change?

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