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Ryzen 3600 on B450?

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I was watching a few buildzoid videos on motherboards for 3rd gen Ryzen and he recommends, in the b450 area, the MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC B450, which I think is great for its price and has BIOS flashback so I don't have to worry about buying a cheap Ryzen 2nd gen to flash to 3rd gen bios.

 

Also, the MSI board has an 8+4 pin cpu power and the PSU I'm getting (RM650x), I don't know if it has the extra 4pin. Can it run with just the 8 pin connected?

 

BUT, how will it impact me for upgradability? Will I be stuck at a 3600 or will an upgrade to the 3700x be available? Even though I plan of having this 3600 for YEARS.

It won't be outdated in a year, will it? ?

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7 minutes ago, Dizz_Man said:

Also, the MSI board has an 8+4 pin cpu power and the PSU I'm getting (RM650x), I don't know if it has the extra 4pin. Can it run with just the 8 pin connected?

Extra 4pin is pointless, dont need that until you start looking at Threadtipper or Skylake-X (that's preferably 8+8 for the top models)

 

The CPU should be relevant for years, until maybe super quick graphics cards become affordable

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

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Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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full chipset comparison

https://wccftech.com/amd-b450-motherboards-official-launch-msi-asus-asrock-gigabyte-roundup/

AMD AM4/TR4 Chipset Features and Specifications:

Wccftech X570 X399 Refresh X399 X470 X370 B450 B350 A320 X300 A300
CrossfireX/SLI Triple CFX/2-Way SLI Quad SLI/CFX
(Max 6 GPU Support) 		Quad SLI/CFX
(Max 6 GPU Support) 		Triple CFX/2-Way SLI Triple CFX/2-Way SLI N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
PCIe Gen 3/4 Lanes 30 +16 (with Ryzen 7 CPU) 60 (With Threadripper CPU)
4 Lanes Reserved for PCH 		60 (With Threadripper CPU)
4 Lanes Reserved for PCH 		16 (with Ryzen 7 CPU) 16 (with Ryzen 7 CPU)
8 (with Bristol Ridge) 		16 (with Ryzen 7 CPU) 16 (with Ryzen 7 CPU)
8 (with Bristol Ridge) 		16 (with Ryzen 7 CPU)
8 (with Bristol Ridge) 		16 (with Ryzen 7 CPU)
8 (with Bristol Ridge) 		16 (with Ryzen 7 CPU)
8 (with Bristol Ridge)
PCIe Gen 2 Lanes N/A 8 PCIe Lanes (reserved) 8 PCIe Lanes (reserved) 8 (plus x2 PCIe Gen3 when no x4 NVMe) 8 (plus x2 PCIe Gen3 when no x4 NVMe) 6 (plus x2 PCIe Gen3 when no x4 NVMe) 6 (plus x2 PCIe Gen3 when no x4 NVMe) 4 (plus x2 PCIe Gen3 when no x4 NVMe) 4 (plus x2 PCIe Gen3 when no x4 NVMe) 4 (plus x2 PCIe Gen3 when no x4 NVMe)
USB 3.1/3,2 Gen2 8 2 2 2 2 2 2 1 0 0
USB 3.1/3.2 Gen1 12 (PCH + CPU) 13 (PCH+CPU) 13 (PCH+CPU) 10 10 6 6 6 4 4
USB 2.0 N/A 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 0 0
SATA 6Gb/s 8 8 8 6 6 4 4 4 2 2
SATA Express 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 1 1
DDR4 DIMMs 4 8 8 4 4 4 4 2 2 2
Overclocking 
Support 		Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes No Yes No
XFR2 Enhanced Yes Yes No Yes No Yes No No No No
Precision Boost Overdrive Yes Yes No Yes No Yes No No No No
NVMe Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
Form Factor ATX, MATX ATX, MATX ATX, MATX ATX, MITX ATX ATX, M-ATX ATX, M-ATX M-ATX, Mini-ITX Mini-ITX M-ATX, Mini-ITX
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1 minute ago, tech.guru said:

for me thats expensive price for an older chipset

It was cheaper than the x470's I was looking at, that don't even have BIOS flashback. and cheaper than lower end x570.

I'm going with one of the highest-end B450's I can find for the best experience and no hassles

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3 minutes ago, Dizz_Man said:

It was cheaper than the x470's I was looking at, that don't even have BIOS flashback. and cheaper than lower end x570.

I'm going with one of the highest-end B450's I can find for the best experience and no hassles

pick features that are important to you its all that matters.

b450 chipset has limitations compared to others if those limitations dont matter to you thats only things that matter

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50 minutes ago, tech.guru said:

pick features that are important to you its all that matters.

b450 chipset has limitations compared to others if those limitations dont matter to you thats only things that matter

Yeah, it seems like probably one of the better boards, I'm kinda anal about reliability and things lasting a long time and this board pretty much ticks all the boxes whilst being cheaper than the x470 and x570 boards I was looking at for only a 3600 with maybe a small all core OC on it.

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I used 3700x on $80 B450 mobo and I don't have any problem.

Primary PC
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X | M/B: Asus ROG Strix X370-F | RAM: G.Skill TridentZ RGB 3200MHz 32GB | GPU: Asus TUF RTX 3070 8GB GDDR6 | SSD: Samsung 960 Evo 250GB | HDD: Seagate Barracuda 4TB x2 | Power: Thermaltake Toughpower 80+ Gold 650W | Sound card: Creative Sound BlasterX AE-5  | Case: NZXT H500 | Cooling: NZXT Kraken X62 | Display: Samsung CHG70 27" 1440p 144Hz QLED
 
Secondary PC
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 | M/B: Asrock B450M Pro 4 | RAM: Kingston HyperX Predator 3200MHz 16GB | GPU: Asrock RX 5700 8GB GDDR6 | SSD: Crucial P1 1TB | HDD: WD Black 1TB | Power: Coolermaster Masterwatt 550 | Case: Aerocool Cylon Mini | Cooling: BeQuiet Pure Rock Slim 2 | Display: Samsung CFG73 24" 1080p 144Hz QLED
 
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Don't worry, that's a good board. If you have a good cooler you can OC the crap out of a 3800X on that board.

Main System: Ryzen 2700, Asus Crosshair VII Hero, EVGA GTX 1080ti SC, 970 EVO Plus NVMe, Crucial Ballistix 3200mhz CL14, CM H500, CM ML240L cpu cooler.

Second System: Ryzen 2400G, Gigabyte B450 DS3H, RX 580 Nitro+, Kingston A400 SSD, Team T-Force 3200mhz CL15

If it ain't overclocked it ain't good...

 

AM4 boards VRM rating list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9_E3h8bLp-TXr-0zTJFqqVxdCR9daIVNyMatydkpFA/htmlview?sle=true#gid=639584818

Buildzoid's AM4 motherboard roundup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti38JS8RuPU

 

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