2080 ti or RTX Titan

[Bunker937]

I plan a pc build, my first to be exact.

 

So far it should be an i9 9900k overclocked to what ever the cooling system would handle.

on Z390 ASRock Phantom-Gaming ITX/ac

some m.2 Storage

and a 700 W Powersupply

 

And the Point of this Post either a RTX 2080 ti or an RTX Titan.

 

My question is: what are the realistic selling points for the titan? 
Obviously not gaming, but I plan to do some Machine Learning experiments as well as AI or some cuda accelerated Programms.

Im curious to see sour comments and advices.

[ManosMax13]

Its already a very expensive pc so buy the 2080ti to cut some cost. It won't be a big performance difference.

[goto10]

titan is in reality like 5% more or less over the ti but costs double

 

it looses price easily, a new titan might be released next year

 

titan is for a very small market, even smaller than the small 2080ti market

 

if nvidia comes with a 2080 super, a titan super could come?

 

the value and position of each gpu is not that clear, but for me is clear that titan doesnt have the value nvidia gives to it

[melete]

As I understand it the Titan RTX can actually be a pretty big difference over 2080ti due to the much larger GDDR6 amount it has, but I couldn't even begin to give advice on whether whatever machine learning problems you're working on justify the Titan RTX.

[jones177]

As a rule I only get more stuff if I am running out of the stuff I have.

I use at most 10.5gbs vram work or play.

If I was using more I would get more.

 

So how much are you using?

 

Also get more PSU.

 

 

[Mira Yurizaki]

29 minutes ago, Bunker937 said:

Obviously not gaming, but I plan to do some Machine Learning experiments as well as AI or some cuda accelerated Programms.

Unless your time is literally money, I recommend getting a more basic GPU that fits the requirement to do the job. Especially if you're just starting to get into machine learning or CUDA programming.

[Princess Luna]

40 minutes ago, Bunker937 said:

And the Point of this Post either a RTX 2080 ti or an RTX Titan.

For gaming there is no worthy difference.

 

For anything serious else, it's really worth it... it is literally, along side the TITAN V, the fastest hardware acceleration cards there is, only losing to something like the Radeon 7 in very specific cases.

 

Gamer Nexus has a good video to give an idea:

 

[Bunker937]

8 hours ago, jones177 said:

As a rule I only get more stuff if I am running out of the stuff I have.

I use at most 10.5gbs vram work or play.

If I was using more I would get more.

 

So how much are you using?

 

Also get more PSU.

 

 

At the moment I just “play” on my laptop with these things..

 

and how much would you suggest for the PSU?

[Ebony Falcon]

Sounds like this isn't your job and ur just looking to mess around with this kind of stuff so get a 2080ti, it's already a ridiculous  PC as it is 

[jones177]

4 hours ago, Bunker937 said:

At the moment I just “play” on my laptop with these things..

 

and how much would you suggest for the PSU?

I like 850 plus watts minimum and when I buy again it will be 1200 plus watts since I have 2 RTX 2080 tis and at some point they will be in the same computer.

I go high since getting it wrong means it will cost me more in the long run.

 

Same goes for the video card. If you get the 2080 ti and in a month or two you find that it is not enough you will either have to live with it ot get the Titan. I have blown the difference in price on a night out so I would just get the Titan. 

[Bunker937]

23 hours ago, Ebony Falcon said:

Sounds like this isn't your job and ur just looking to mess around with this kind of stuff so get a 2080ti, it's already a ridiculous  PC as it is 

What did you mean with ridiculous?

 

[Bunker937]

22 hours ago, jones177 said:

I like 850 plus watts minimum and when I buy again it will be 1200 plus watts since I have 2 RTX 2080 tis and at some point they will be in the same computer.

I go high since getting it wrong means it will cost me more in the long run.

 

Same goes for the video card. If you get the 2080 ti and in a month or two you find that it is not enough you will either have to live with it ot get the Titan. I have blown the difference in price on a night out so I would just get the Titan. 

So you basically suggest that I buy the titan instead of the 2080 just for the case that I could need it, did I understand you right?

 

the most PSU Calculators suggest 650 for that setup, since I don’t get a second gpu, so how did you come up with 850?

[Ebony Falcon]

1 hour ago, Bunker937 said:

What did you mean with ridiculous?

 

It probably way overpowered for what u want it to do 

[jones177]

2 minutes ago, Bunker937 said:

So you basically suggest that I buy the titan instead of the 2080 just for the case that I could need it, did I understand you right?

 

the most PSU Calculators suggest 650 for that setup, since I don’t get a second gpu, so how did you come up with 850?

For machine learning yes. For anything else, no.

 

I retired as a freelance 3D graphic artist/designer last year. If I got hardware wrong it could and did cost me more. Not having the capacity to meet a deadline meant the probable loss of a customer and 3D design is not a volume business. Scrambling to get the capacity I needed in time when I got it wrong was one of my real nightmares. 

 

So if you think a 2080 ti could not do the job it would be silly to get one.

If you are not sure enough yet do more research.

 

Yes, PSU Calculators do suggest 650 but you may find asterisks beside it stating it is for stock.

2080 tis have a wide power range. 260 watts is considered stock with a reference PCB. For a custom card 300 watts is the standard. Both types are capable of 373 plus watts depending on how many 8 pin connectors they have. Ones with more than 2  8 pin connectors can handles even more watts.

The highest usage I have seen on my FTW3 Ultra was 387 watts.  

I feel safer with more capacity than less.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Dedayog]

On 8/1/2019 at 2:18 AM, Bunker937 said:

At the moment I just “play” on my laptop with these things..

 

and how much would you suggest for the PSU?

Sounds like this is just another fantasy build thread with random words like Machine Learning and AI thrown in now.

 

 

[Bunker937]

4 hours ago, jstudrawa said:

Sounds like this is just another fantasy build thread with random words like Machine Learning and AI thrown in now.

 

 

It is a research thread, of course it seems kind of fantasy like.. and in deed the other thread I posted was that kind of fantasy.

 

But since then I started with the Studium in Computer Science. And i Look for something that could help me with that. My MacBook isn’t up for the tasked and the internal GPU stopped working since apple ditched the Nvidia support (that for the CUDA bit).

Now with a student job and so on I could afford a pc or other thing, for me there is no different if I get A or B first and so, the RTX Titan is an option, even at this price.

 

And this is the reason I stared the thread, just because I can it doesn’t mean I should. I want to get some sende for the real life value of that card.

[Dedayog]

22 minutes ago, Bunker937 said:

It is a research thread, of course it seems kind of fantasy like.. and in deed the other thread I posted was that kind of fantasy.

 

But since then I started with the Studium in Computer Science. And i Look for something that could help me with that. My MacBook isn’t up for the tasked and the internal GPU stopped working since apple ditched the Nvidia support (that for the CUDA bit).

Now with a student job and so on I could afford a pc or other thing, for me there is no different if I get A or B first and so, the RTX Titan is an option, even at this price.

 

And this is the reason I stared the thread, just because I can it doesn’t mean I should. I want to get some sende for the real life value of that card.

Interesting student job you have to afford a $2500 GPU, mine barely covered Ramen

 

Why don't you ask your professors as well, they're the ones creating the workloads you'll be working on and I doubt they intend everyone to have Titans.

 

I think you'll be more than fine with a 2080Ti.

[Bunker937]

1 hour ago, jstudrawa said:

Interesting student job you have to afford a $2500 GPU, mine barely covered Ramen

 

Why don't you ask your professors as well, they're the ones creating the workloads you'll be working on and I doubt they intend everyone to have Titans.

 

I think you'll be more than fine with a 2080Ti.

Nvidia offers an School-discount then it is just 2200€ but never the less such an Investition does take a few months of saving.

 

Try cooking it is sometimes cheeper

 

and my university already has a high performance computer cluster as well as a quantum computer.. so I guess they don’t need a cheep titan.

 

but really thanks for the advice with the 2080