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2 hours ago, melete said:

@truckerlenny Given your preferences it sounds like you're best off saving up $900-950 or so to get an i7-9700k, a new motherboard, and faster RAM.

exactly what i was thinking. i ordered a new asus tuf z390 board tonight, 2x8 gb corsair lpx 3200 ddr4 ram, a 9700k, a samsung evo plus m.2 2280 nvme 500gb drive. a got corsair commander pro fan controller instead of the aerocool v12xt fan controller going for a more stealth look. 

 

so final build after tomorrow will look like this.

Case Cooler Master HAF XB evo

motherboard asus tuf z390 plus gaming wifi

intel i7 9700k

2x8 gb corsair lpx 3200 mhz ddr4 ram

samsung 970 evo plus m.2 nvme 500gb 

WD Blue 3D NAND 500GB PC SSD

WD WD10EURX 1TB hdd

noctua d15s cpu cooler with 2 fans. 

asus dual- RTX2060-o6g

corsair hx750i

2x noctua nf-a80 fans

2x noctua nf-a140 fans

1x noctua nf-a120 fan

i have a corsair dark core se mouse with the mm1000 charging mouse pad.

i have ordered a das keyboard 4 pro cherry mx blue keyboard

monitor is a Samsung 32" 60Hz 4ms Curved PLS LED Monitor (LC32F391FWNXZA) - White 1080p mounted using a amer hydra1b monitor mount (bolted through desk not the c Clamp)

for sound i have 2 yorkville c120p speakers, 1 yorkville yx10sp subwoofer with a mackie 5 channel mixer. i will be ordering a sennheiser gsp 670 gaming headset. 

 

not a single rgb light in it (except for the bloody gpu power led that no one can find out how to turn off)

 

all of this to play youtube and netflix

 

oh and a mild bit of games cs:go and wow lol...

should last awhile.

 

 

Ok not sure what to do i can get a i7 8700k for about 500 Canadian dollars. I currently have a i5 6500 with a asus strix dual rtx2060 o6g im installing a d15s cpu cooler, corsair hx750i psu, few fans, fan controller, i have it in a cooler master haf xb evo case which i love. I have 2x8gb g skill 2133mhz ram. The mobo is a asrock h170a board. I was thinking about going to a 8700k because dont seem to be alot of performance difference and going to a 9700k means changing mobo. I was thinking do the quick upgrade save up for when a new intel release happens hopefully the d15s will still be compatible then.

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The i7 8700K is actually not compatible with the H170 chipset, 2133mhz memory will bottleneck any Coffee Lake i7.

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Yeah, you're going to have to with idk.  Sorry.

 

6 minutes ago, Origami Cactus said:

8700k also means changing mobo. Only 7700k would go into your current mobo, but that is identical to the 6700k, so no point.

he's only got a 6500, so the 7700K or 6700K may give him a decent boost.

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Sage: Ryzen 7 7800X3D (+200, -30) - Gigabyte B650 Gaming X V2 - ASRock Steel Legend 7900GRE - G. Skill Flare X5 32GB 6000CL32 - TeamGroup MP44L 2TB - Super Flower Leadex Platinum SE 1000w - NZXT H5 Elite

 

Emma: i9 9900K @5.2Ghz - Gigabyte Z370 AORUS Gaming 5 - MSI 6900XT Gaming X Trio - G. Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3200CL16 - 750 EVO 512GB + 2x 860 EVO 1TB (RAID0) - Super Flower Combat FG 850w - Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate 360 - Fractal Design Define R6 - TP-Link AC1900 PCIe Wifi

 

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3D Printing: 

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Other Interesting Tech:

- 2021 Volvo S60 Recharge T8 PHEV Polestar Engineered - 415hp/495tq 2.0L 4cyl. turbocharged, supercharged and electrified.

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Just now, Origami Cactus said:

Nah, absolutely not worth it, they still cost way too much. At that point it is better going with a R5.

Ugh, you're right.  Checked Ebay after posting that, and he's looking at $200+ for the 6700K.

 

He has a solid 1080p system, so no real need to upgrade that part.  I'd look at SSD storage and peripherals at this point.

"Do what makes the experience better" - in regards to PCs and Life itself.

 

Onyx: Ryzen 7 7800X3D / Gigabyte B650 AORUS Pro AX / ASRock Taichi 7900xtx OC / G. Skill Flare X5 6000CL36 64GB (4x16GB) / Samsung 980 1TB x3 / Super Flower Leadex V Plat Pro 1000 / EK-AIO 360 Basic w/ Silent Wings fans / Fractal Design North XL (black mesh) / LG - UltraGear 45" OLED QHD 240Hz / Mackie CR5BT / SteelSeries Arctis Nova Pro / Cherry MX Board 3.0 / Logitech G502 - https://valid.x86.fr/my9nnr

 

7800X3D - PBO +200, CO -30 all cores, 4.90GHz all core, 5.05GHz single core, Cinebench 23: 18401 multi, 1779 single

 

Khaleesi: Ryzen 5 5600X3D (+200, -30) - ASRock B550M Pro4 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 3200CL16 - Asus Prime 9060XT 16GB - Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial MX500 1TB - Cudy AX3000 PCIe Wifi 6 - EVGA SuperNOVA 650 P2 - Thermalright Frozen Notte RGB 360 White V2 - NZXT H6 Flow RGB White - LG 34" 3440x1440

 

NAS/Plex/Game Server  Ryzen 9 5900XT 16c/32t - Gigabyte B550M AORUS Elite AX - TeamGroup T-Force Vulcan 64GB 3200CL16 - MSI 1050Ti 4GB - Crucial P3 Plus 500GB + TeamGroup MP44L 2TB (Game) + WD Red Plus 4TBx2 (Plex) - TP-Link AC1200 PCIe Wifi - EVGA SuperNOVA 650 P2 - Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120SE - ASUS Prime AP201 - Currently Hosting: Enshrouded x2, Hytale, Icarus, Windrose, Project Zomboid, Dune Awakening.

 

Sage: Ryzen 7 7800X3D (+200, -30) - Gigabyte B650 Gaming X V2 - ASRock Steel Legend 7900GRE - G. Skill Flare X5 32GB 6000CL32 - TeamGroup MP44L 2TB - Super Flower Leadex Platinum SE 1000w - NZXT H5 Elite

 

Emma: i9 9900K @5.2Ghz - Gigabyte Z370 AORUS Gaming 5 - MSI 6900XT Gaming X Trio - G. Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3200CL16 - 750 EVO 512GB + 2x 860 EVO 1TB (RAID0) - Super Flower Combat FG 850w - Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate 360 - Fractal Design Define R6 - TP-Link AC1900 PCIe Wifi

 

GF Rig: Steam Deck 512GB OLED, Vizio 43" 4K TV

 

Extra parts: ASUS 6650XT - Gigabyte 1080Ti - Cooler Master Q300L - Gigabyte 450w PSU - Super Flower Leadex V Plat Pro 850w

 

OnePlus Ecosystem: 

OnePlus 11 5G - 16GB RAM, 256GB NAND, Eternal Green. OnePlus Watch 2 - Radiant Steel, OnePlus Buds Pro 2 - Eternal Green

3D Printing: 

Bambu Lab X1 Carbon, AMS, AMS2 Pro (thank you MicroCenter!)

Other Interesting Tech:

- 2021 Volvo S60 Recharge T8 PHEV Polestar Engineered - 415hp/495tq 2.0L 4cyl. turbocharged, supercharged and electrified.

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Yeah go buy the 8700k dude, biggest upgrade of 2019. lol

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2 minutes ago, truckerlenny said:

i refuse to go to amd due to horrible issues ive had with them in the past

You do you

 

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But just a reminder, things change, you can't get stuck in a perfect comfortable moment, time always moves on, if you want it, or not.

 

I only see your reply if you @ me.

 

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For $500 CAD you might be able to get a cheap 2600 combo instead

 

Or if you bump up a few dollars a 3600

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3 minutes ago, Plutosaurus said:

For $500 CAD you might be able to get a cheap 2600 combo instead

 

Or if you bump up a few dollars a 3600

once again i refuse to go amd. and second for 500$ while you may get a cpu you would not get a mobo and ram as the ram i have amd doesnt like it. also a 2600 would only give me about 10% increase in gaming, sure a bunch more in workstation tasks which i dont do. 

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20 minutes ago, truckerlenny said:

once again i refuse to go amd. and second for 500$ while you may get a cpu you would not get a mobo and ram as the ram i have amd doesnt like it. also a 2600 would only give me about 10% increase in gaming, sure a bunch more in workstation tasks which i dont do. 

 

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1 hour ago, truckerlenny said:

i refuse to go to amd due to horrible issues ive had with them in the past

AMD has made considerable progress though, i dont know the last time you tried AMD but even if it was with the FX line times have changed.

Right now AMD is great value for dollar and the new processors are far better designed.

Regardless intel is a stupid idea right now when AMD is delivering great value for dollar.

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Just now, MadmanRB said:

AMD has made considerable progress though, i dont know the last time you tried AMD but even if it was with the FX line times have changed.

Right now AMD is great value for dollar and the new processors are far better designed.

Regardless intel is a stupid idea right now when AMD is delivering great value for dollar.

It's not stupid.  It's dependent on what you are doing.

 

You're as badly biased and prejudiced as the OP.  Don't be.

"Do what makes the experience better" - in regards to PCs and Life itself.

 

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7800X3D - PBO +200, CO -30 all cores, 4.90GHz all core, 5.05GHz single core, Cinebench 23: 18401 multi, 1779 single

 

Khaleesi: Ryzen 5 5600X3D (+200, -30) - ASRock B550M Pro4 - G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB 3200CL16 - Asus Prime 9060XT 16GB - Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial MX500 1TB - Cudy AX3000 PCIe Wifi 6 - EVGA SuperNOVA 650 P2 - Thermalright Frozen Notte RGB 360 White V2 - NZXT H6 Flow RGB White - LG 34" 3440x1440

 

NAS/Plex/Game Server  Ryzen 9 5900XT 16c/32t - Gigabyte B550M AORUS Elite AX - TeamGroup T-Force Vulcan 64GB 3200CL16 - MSI 1050Ti 4GB - Crucial P3 Plus 500GB + TeamGroup MP44L 2TB (Game) + WD Red Plus 4TBx2 (Plex) - TP-Link AC1200 PCIe Wifi - EVGA SuperNOVA 650 P2 - Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120SE - ASUS Prime AP201 - Currently Hosting: Enshrouded x2, Hytale, Icarus, Windrose, Project Zomboid, Dune Awakening.

 

Sage: Ryzen 7 7800X3D (+200, -30) - Gigabyte B650 Gaming X V2 - ASRock Steel Legend 7900GRE - G. Skill Flare X5 32GB 6000CL32 - TeamGroup MP44L 2TB - Super Flower Leadex Platinum SE 1000w - NZXT H5 Elite

 

Emma: i9 9900K @5.2Ghz - Gigabyte Z370 AORUS Gaming 5 - MSI 6900XT Gaming X Trio - G. Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3200CL16 - 750 EVO 512GB + 2x 860 EVO 1TB (RAID0) - Super Flower Combat FG 850w - Thermaltake Water 3.0 Ultimate 360 - Fractal Design Define R6 - TP-Link AC1900 PCIe Wifi

 

GF Rig: Steam Deck 512GB OLED, Vizio 43" 4K TV

 

Extra parts: ASUS 6650XT - Gigabyte 1080Ti - Cooler Master Q300L - Gigabyte 450w PSU - Super Flower Leadex V Plat Pro 850w

 

OnePlus Ecosystem: 

OnePlus 11 5G - 16GB RAM, 256GB NAND, Eternal Green. OnePlus Watch 2 - Radiant Steel, OnePlus Buds Pro 2 - Eternal Green

3D Printing: 

Bambu Lab X1 Carbon, AMS, AMS2 Pro (thank you MicroCenter!)

Other Interesting Tech:

- 2021 Volvo S60 Recharge T8 PHEV Polestar Engineered - 415hp/495tq 2.0L 4cyl. turbocharged, supercharged and electrified.

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12 minutes ago, jstudrawa said:

It's not stupid.  It's dependent on what you are doing.

 

You're as badly biased and prejudiced as the OP.  Don't be.

Only in gaming is where intel is better but not by much right now.

Otherwise AMD is the better investment at the time of this post due to its performance dollar.

 

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1 hour ago, truckerlenny said:

once again i refuse to go amd. and second for 500$ while you may get a cpu you would not get a mobo and ram as the ram i have amd doesnt like it. also a 2600 would only give me about 10% increase in gaming, sure a bunch more in workstation tasks which i dont do. 

A ryzen 2600 would be an upgrade in games that can take advantage of more cores, a B450 board would fit in that budget and you can still overclock and have compatibility with ryzen 3000 series cpu's.

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15 minutes ago, Blademaster91 said:

A ryzen 2600 would be an upgrade in games that can take advantage of more cores, a B450 board would fit in that budget and you can still overclock and have compatibility with ryzen 3000 series cpu's.

Dont bother, the OP probably wont listen to reason.

Lets give him what he wants.

Since intel is the best ever and never makes a bad product ever (the intel pentium D, whats that?) and never has a single flaw whatesoever ( I mean spectre and metdown, ever heard of it)

i recommend the i9 9900K

Thats the best processor out the, pair that with a Z390, 16GB of ram you are covered.

I mean a AMD system would be way less but hey you want the berst intel thing, the 9900K is only $500, so cheap (sarcasm sarcasm sarcasm)

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Compared to a locked 4/4 skylake, I'd wager a 2600 and certainly a 3600 will perform almost every task and game better.

 

We aren't talking an unlocked i7 here.

 

And yeah, you could throw an i7-7700k on there, but with an H board and no overclocking, it would not be optimal, and a 2600 will be near parity and a 3600 is going to perform better most of the time.

 

But it's his money 

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If you must go Intel and have no interest in overclocking, a cheap h310+ an 8700 nonk + a hyper212 will get you almost identical performance to a stock 8700k.

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8 hours ago, MadmanRB said:

AMD has made considerable progress though, i dont know the last time you tried AMD but even if it was with the FX line times have changed.

Right now AMD is great value for dollar and the new processors are far better designed.

Regardless intel is a stupid idea right now when AMD is delivering great value for dollar.

it had nothing to do with the product as per say it had to do with the service received by their reps when there was a issue and they failed to resolve it

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11 hours ago, jstudrawa said:

Ugh, you're right.  Checked Ebay after posting that, and he's looking at $200+ for the 6700K.

 

He has a solid 1080p system, so no real need to upgrade that part.  I'd look at SSD storage and peripherals at this point.

i have a ssd already. and i have a corsair dark core se mouse and a das keyboard 4 pro with blue switches. which it might be good as pc right now i have money to spend on upgrades that then will be used for years to come

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6 hours ago, Plutosaurus said:

Compared to a locked 4/4 skylake, I'd wager a 2600 and certainly a 3600 will perform almost every task and game better.

 

We aren't talking an unlocked i7 here.

 

And yeah, you could throw an i7-7700k on there, but with an H board and no overclocking, it would not be optimal, and a 2600 will be near parity and a 3600 is going to perform better most of the time.

 

But it's his money 

i refuse to go amd because if it doesnt work then the service with amd is horrible from my experience in the past. it has nothing to do with that intel doesnt sell bad chips heck ive had a few over the years but was always handled and come to a resolution. 

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8 hours ago, MadmanRB said:

Dont bother, the OP probably wont listen to reason.

Lets give him what he wants.

Since intel is the best ever and never makes a bad product ever (the intel pentium D, whats that?) and never has a single flaw whatesoever ( I mean spectre and metdown, ever heard of it)

i recommend the i9 9900K

Thats the best processor out the, pair that with a Z390, 16GB of ram you are covered.

I mean a AMD system would be way less but hey you want the berst intel thing, the 9900K is only $500, so cheap (sarcasm sarcasm sarcasm)

it has nothing to do with that intel doesnt sell bad chips ive had a few over the years lol. but it was always taken care of and handled reasonably while having amd in the past i was treated like trash and told your fault you bought a bad chip (brand new from a authorized dealer)

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