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Help Choose between i9 9900k and Ryzen 9 3900x

I am probably assembling my PC by the end of this month or the next. But i am still confused between the CPU. 

What advantages can the RYZEN provide me?

 

I will mostly be using it for 50% 3D modelling and Rendering and 50% gaming. Might stream (not sure)

 

Gpu of choice is an RTX 2080TI (Gaming X Trio)

 

Software i will be using are, SketchUp, Lumion (Gpu based) Blender etc

 

Note from Lumions website Multiple CPUs or more than 4 CPU cores will not make a difference.

 

Please advise

 

EDIT Leaning towards the Ryzen, after community's advice

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Ryzen 9 3900X obviously, you lose mere 5fps on gaming at most and win massive bump in performance for your rendering and 3d work and over all multitasking with a more power efficient system.

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3 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

Ryzen 9 3900X obviously, you lose mere 5fps on gaming at most and win massive bump in performance for your rendering and 3d work and over all multitasking with a more power efficient system.

But won't the gpu rendering be faster than the cpu? Besides lumion supports only gpu based renders.

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If Ryzen 7nm+  is a thing next year your X570 mobo will provide an upgrade path. Those 12 cores are nice now but maybe next year you want to upgrade to the 16 core without changing any of your parts.

 

 

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The thing is that i am losing out on the gaming side, but the softwares i intend to use doesn't offer much of an advantage on core count (except blender cycles, but somehow i believe rtx 2080ti) gpu render will be faster anyway [ blender uses ray tracing, so i guess rt cores will matter too]

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1 minute ago, d4n1Xd34th said:

But won't the gpu rendering be faster than the cpu? Besides lumion supports only gpu based renders.

GPU acts as a hardware acceleration, you still need a CPU to manage the GPU to work per se even on a fully CUDA based rendering.

 

Listen as someone who owns an i9 9900K, it's not worth it, new Ryzen 3000 processors are gold, they offer unbeatable price to performance.

 

Intel is *not* a premium brand anymore and for gaming unless you are going 1080p240hz which is a gimmick and you shouldn't you won't be CPU bottlenecked, even with a 2080 Ti you are likely to run into GPU bound scenarios most of the time.

 

That's my two cents if anything.

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CPU: AMD R9 7950XT  |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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1 minute ago, Princess Luna said:

GPU acts as a hardware acceleration, you still need a CPU to manage the GPU to work per se even on a fully CUDA based rendering.

 

Listen as someone who owns an i9 9900K, it's not worth it, new Ryzen 3000 processors are gold, they offer unbeatable price to performance.

 

Intel is *not* a premium brand anymore and for gaming unless you are going 1080p240hz which is a gimmick and you shouldn't you won't be CPU bottlenecked, even with a 2080 Ti you are likely to run into GPU bound scenarios most of the time.

 

That's my two cents if anything.

Probably thats what i am thinking. Besides i am just aiming for 144hz at 1440p

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31 minutes ago, d4n1Xd34th said:

I am probably assembling my PC by the end of this month or the next. But i am still confused between the CPU. 

What advantages can the RYZEN provide me?

 

I will mostly be using it for 50% 3D modelling and Rendering and 50% gaming. Might stream (not sure)

 

Gpu of choice is an RTX 2080TI (Gaming X Trio)

 

Software i will be using are, SketchUp, Lumion (Gpu based) Blender etc

 

Please advise

You need to actually watch a few review videos of the new Ryzen cpus.  If you're asking what advantages they can provide, you have done NO research.

 

Especially if you do 3D modeling and rendering, you should know what a high core/thread count CPU will do.  

 

For example:

 

 

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Just now, jstudrawa said:

You need to actually watch a few review videos of the new Ryzen cpus.  If you're asking what advantages they can provide, you have done NO research.

 

Especially if you do 3D modeling and rendering, you should know what a high core/thread count CPU will do.

 

 

They have a very high advantage on softwares like cinema 4D. Sketchup? Doesn't really matter. 

For lumion official website says Multiple CPUs or more than 4 CPU cores will not make a difference.

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1 minute ago, d4n1Xd34th said:

They have a very high advantage on softwares like cinema 4D. Sketchup? Doesn't really matter. 

For lumion official website says Multiple CPUs or more than 4 CPU cores will not make a difference.

I would go with the 3900x.

 

its an upgradable path, better price to performance and on gaming loads your between 2-5 FPS less than having a 9900k

 

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3 minutes ago, Stormseeker9 said:

I would go with the 3900x.

 

its an upgradable path, better price to performance and on gaming loads your between 2-5 FPS less than having a 9900k

Yes probably going for the RYZEN

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Dude 3900x all day.  It is a CPU made for you.  If intel was offering their 9900k under 400 that would be different, but you cant pass up the price to performance of that 3900x for what you are doing.  That is certainly what I would do (or build a 3950x build in september!)

El Zoido:  9900k + RTX 4090 / 32 gb 3600mHz RAM / z390 Aorus Master 

 

The Box:  3900x + RTX 3080 /  32 gb 3000mHz RAM / B550 MSI mortar 

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Also at higher rez, you lose a lot of the benefit of the 9900k in gaming.  At 4k everything is 100% gpu bound, there is almost no difference.  At 1440p (where you are) it isnt that extreme, but it will be much closer than 1080 for sure.  Grab that 3900 and maybe a pcie4 NVME!

El Zoido:  9900k + RTX 4090 / 32 gb 3600mHz RAM / z390 Aorus Master 

 

The Box:  3900x + RTX 3080 /  32 gb 3000mHz RAM / B550 MSI mortar 

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Also - when you get Ryzen, you are sticking  it to Intel.

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