Is 4 cores enough in 2019?

[Razerzz]

Hello! I have I5 7500 and GTX 1660. Im interested whether I will encounter any problems in modern games, and in games that will come out in a year or two, specifically, problems with CPU. I plan on gaming only at 1080p.

[ZeouLs]

Techniaclly yes, the question always comes down to how high you go with the settings and how much FPS you would like to get.

[Ashiella]

2 minutes ago, Razerzz said:

Hello! I have I5 7500 and GTX 1660. Im interested whether I will encounter any problems in modern games, and in games that will come out in a year or two, specifically, problems with CPU. I plan on gaming only at 1080p.

It is still fairly common that games don't support more than 4 cores, but that being said, there are allot more games that do nowadays. I'd say a 4c/8t chip would be good for the next couple years, but not 4c/4t. This is solely my opinion so others may be different. This also depends on the framerate you intend to get. I'm basing this off of 144fps, or 60 for very specific games.

[Aerpoweron]

I think you are fine with you setup at 1080p. But you might have to lower the settings in future game.

But when the new consoles will be releases with the 8-core CPUs we might see games which might run better on more than 4 cores. But there is only so much to do for a game to split up its workload on several cores. We need the game programmers to rethink multithreading. And that might take some time.

[dgsddfgdfhgs]

7500 is Fine with most games, just avoid games from bad companies like ubisoft.

[DoctorNick]

Depends on the game. Most new games is able to use more than 4 cores 

[Crunken]

i'm using a 4-core right now and i want an upgrade, some games that i want to play need more than 4 cores (battlefield v for example)

[Gohardgrandpa]

4 core 4 thread isn’t enough. Some games might be fine but I see a ton of core usage in the games I play now. 

[Aerpoweron]

Could anyone point to a list of games which can make good use of more cores / threads than four? And how much advantage to you get at 1080p with the GTX 1660 at that scenario?

The improved scheduler of Win10 1903 might also play a role in that.

[Dreamer758]

16 minutes ago, Ashiella said:

It is still fairly common that games don't support more than 4 cores, but that being said, there are allot more games that do nowadays. I'd say a 4c/8t chip would be good for the next couple years, but not 4c/4t. This is solely my opinion so others may be different. This also depends on the framerate you intend to get. I'm basing this off of 144fps, or 60 for very specific games.

Battlefield 5 can use all 12 threads on a 2600 at around 80%

[Ashiella]

1 minute ago, Dreamer758 said:

Battlefield 5 can use all 12 threads on a 2600 at around 80%

Just wait until you see siege with enough threads

[Aerpoweron]

Tho it should run well on a 6 core 12 thread xeon from the lga 1366 era? (BFV)

 

[Dreamer758]

Just now, Ashiella said:

Just wait until you see siege with enough threads

Siege? You talking about rainbow six?

[Ashiella]

Just now, Aerpoweron said:

Tho it should run well on a 6 core 8 thread xeon from the lga 1366 era?

 

6 core 12 thread* If you overclock the X5650 for example to 4.35 Ghz it's decent. Still falls behind in allot of games, but still very very nice for the price (If you can get a good board for $100, and a cooler for sub 50)

[Ashiella]

Just now, Dreamer758 said:

Siege? You talking about rainbow six?

yessir

[Aerpoweron]

Only got an X5675 Xeon, upped the BLC from 133 to 166MHz to get from 1333MHz to 1666MHz memory. CPU runs with 3.8 Ghz and turbos up to 4.1 i think.

Would be interesting to see, how it would hold up against the 4 core i5 7500 cpu. You should see if you get an advantage with more cores at some games.

[Dreamer758]

3 minutes ago, Ashiella said:

yessir

I just got that game last week it’s really good haven’t checked the cpu usage but I didn’t know it can utilize 12 threads game is quite old but it does run at high frame rates

[Dreamer758]

5 minutes ago, Ashiella said:

6 core 12 thread* If you overclock the X5650 for example to 4.35 Ghz it's decent. Still falls behind in allot of games, but still very very nice for the price (If you can get a good board for $100, and a cooler for sub 50)

Or just buy a 2600 with cooler for 99 bucks

[asand1]

3 minutes ago, Dreamer758 said:

Or just buy a 2600 with cooler for 99 bucks

And then a Mobo, and then DDR4 RAM.

[Ashiella]

2 minutes ago, Dreamer758 said:

I just got that game last week it’s really good haven’t checked the cpu usage but I didn’t know it can utilize 12 threads game is quite old but it does run at high frame rates

With my 1080 at 1440p high-ish settings (I have allot of stuff turned off bc esports player life)
I can hit 100% cpu usage with my R7 1700 at 160fps, gpu clock is 2101mhz usually.
The game has a 100% cpu usage bug with some intel chips, but it's usually just reserving that cpu time for framerate stability in case explosions or something happens. At least thats in theory. Not sure how that works in practice.

[Ashiella]

Just now, asand1 said:

And then a Mobo, and then DDR4 RAM.

$10 X5650, $100 mobo, $50 cooler, $25 16GB kit of ram, sometimes less. Total: 185
vs
$100 2600, $80 mobo (If you dont want something shit), free cooler, $80-100 16GB kit of ram. Total: 260 ish?
 

[Dreamer758]

1 minute ago, Ashiella said:

With my 1080 at 1440p high-ish settings (I have allot of stuff turned off bc esports player life)
I can hit 100% cpu usage with my R7 1700 at 160fps, gpu clock is 2101mhz usually.
The game has a 100% cpu usage bug with some intel chips, but it's usually just reserving that cpu time for framerate stability in case explosions or something happens. At least thats in theory. Not sure how that works in practice.

I get 120fps with my rtx 2070 and 2600 at 1440p hooping  to push 144fps with a cpu upgrade next week

[Dreamer758]

1 minute ago, Ashiella said:

$10 X5650, $100 mobo, $50 cooler, $25 16GB kit of ram, sometimes less. Total: 185
vs
$100 2600, $80 mobo (If you dont want something shit), free cooler, $80-100 16GB kit of ram. Total: 260 ish?
 

X5650 only 10 bucks dang that’s cheap

[Ashiella]

Just now, Dreamer758 said:

I get 120fps with my rtx 2070 and 2600 at 1440p hooping  to push 144fps with a cpu upgrade next week

My settings:

Spoiler

With the RTX 2070, you should be able to hit at least 144fps constant with my settings. (If you judge my rank, I don't play ranked at all, unlike the rest of my team)
Were getting off-topic. DM me if you want to continue this convo.

[StarsMars]

5 hours ago, Razerzz said:

Hello! I have I5 7500 and GTX 1660. Im interested whether I will encounter any problems in modern games, and in games that will come out in a year or two, specifically, problems with CPU. I plan on gaming only at 1080p.

Tech deals did a video on exactly this today.

Tech deals video on 4 cores in 2019