Rift S vs Rift CV1

[Jon Jon]

What do you guys think about the new Rift S?

 

I have been reading reviews, but I finally got to my local Microsoft Store and honestly, I wasn't impressed.

 

I felt the tracking was noticeably worse than a room scale setup. I also felt that the screen wasn't that much better than the original.

[ImAlsoRan]

The Rift S is built for people who don’t have a desktop to run VR, and more of the cost of the headset goes towards computational power, leaving less room for tracking or screen quality.

[Jon Jon]

32 minutes ago, ImAlsoRan said:

The Rift S is built for people who don’t have a desktop to run VR, and more of the cost of the headset goes towards computational power, leaving less room for tracking or screen quality.

I agree since they did drop the refresh rate to 80hz.

[jones177]

I like it.

I could do with more resolution but there still isn't enough content that I like to pay the price of Steams new headset.

2 hours ago, ImAlsoRan said:

The Rift S is built for people who don’t have a desktop to run VR, and more of the cost of the headset goes towards computational power, leaving less room for tracking or screen quality.

The S is for desk tops. Quest is the standalone version.

[jones177]

2 hours ago, Jon Jon said:

I agree since they did drop the refresh rate to 80hz.

If the refresh rate was an issue I would have returned it.

As you can tell by my computer specs, I don't mind spending money.

[Jon Jon]

2 hours ago, jones177 said:

If the refresh rate was an issue I would have returned it.

As you can tell by my computer specs, I don't mind spending money.

It's not, but it helps them keep their minimum spec that they've had.

 

Honestly, the biggest upgrade to me is the actual headset itself. It is definitely way more comfortable to wear. I bet putting on a VR cover facemask will make it even better.

 

Outside of that, I think it is great for anyone who already doesnt have a cv1, but I won't be ditching my 3 sensor room scale setup just yet. 

[Paul Rudd]

6 hours ago, Jon Jon said:

What do you guys think about the new Rift S?

It's the same as any VR headset, a mere parlor trick. Awesome at first, dull and old news after a month or two.

[trufret]

On 6/22/2019 at 10:53 PM, Jon Jon said:

It's not, but it helps them keep their minimum spec that they've had.

 

Honestly, the biggest upgrade to me is the actual headset itself. It is definitely way more comfortable to wear. I bet putting on a VR cover facemask will make it even better.

 

Outside of that, I think it is great for anyone who already doesnt have a cv1, but I won't be ditching my 3 sensor room scale setup just yet. 

If you want an all around upgrade from your CV1, you're probably going to want to look into Valve's index once it comes out.

It should be better in just about every way (except price)

There are other HMD that have better visuals than the CV1 but the tracking is way worse so unless you are mostly into sims the CV1 is probably where you want to stay for now.

[Jon Jon]

1 hour ago, trufret said:

If you want an all around upgrade from your CV1, you're probably going to want to look into Valve's index once it comes out.

It should be better in just about every way (except price)

There are other HMD that have better visuals than the CV1 but the tracking is way worse so unless you are mostly into sims the CV1 is probably where you want to stay for now.

That is where my head is at.

 

The Valve Index looks great too, but I will wait to see how well it works with Revive before I consider that.

 

I am heavily invested in the Oculus Ecosystem at this point (it has that console "it just works" stability going for it. Steam VR not so much from my experience).

[trufret]

7 minutes ago, Jon Jon said:

That is where my head is at.

 

The Valve Index looks great too, but I will wait to see how well it works with Revive before I consider that.

 

I am heavily invested in the Oculus Ecosystem at this point (it has that console "it just works" stability going for it. Steam VR not so much from my experience).

I had the opposite experience.  The Oculus software was way more temperamental for me than Steam VR.

The CV1 wouldn't detect I was putting in on probably 20% of the time, requiring a restart of the OVR runtime best case and full system reboot in the worst case.

I mostly play DCS World with it and if I didn't launch and close the game in monitor mode before launching VR then it would hard lock my system and require a power cycle every time.

 

I've switched to a Pimax 5k+ for DCS and after the initial faulty cable from Pimax it's been a lot more reliable to get up and running for me.  Now they either need to release the better head strap or I'll have to 3d print an adapter for the vive deluxe head strap to use with it.

 

I purposely got all my non-exclusives from Steam as I knew better HMDs would be on the way and Oculus was showing no signs of supporting other HMDs natively.

[Jon Jon]

9 minutes ago, trufret said:

I had the opposite experience.  The Oculus software was way more temperamental for me than Steam VR.

The CV1 wouldn't detect I was putting in on probably 20% of the time, requiring a restart of the OVR runtime best case and full system reboot in the worst case.

I mostly play DCS World with it and if I didn't launch and close the game in monitor mode before launching VR then it would hard lock my system and require a power cycle every time.

 

I've switched to a Pimax 5k+ for DCS and after the initial faulty cable from Pimax it's been a lot more reliable to get up and running for me.  Now they either need to release the better head strap or I'll have to 3d print an adapter for the vive deluxe head strap to use with it.

 

I purposely got all my non-exclusives from Steam as I knew better HMDs would be on the way and Oculus was showing no signs of supporting other HMDs natively.

I find that Oculus does a bad job of launching Steam bought games. It is great for its own eco system, that's for sure.

 

That's interesting that you had that experience with Oculus Home. I have honestly only had it not detect me putting it on a few times, but it is not the usual case.

 

You are the first person I've spoken to to actually own a Pimax!

[trufret]

10 minutes ago, Jon Jon said:

I find that Oculus does a bad job of launching Steam bought games. It is great for its own eco system, that's for sure.

 

That's interesting that you had that experience with Oculus Home. I have honestly only had it not detect me putting it on a few times, but it is not the usual case.

 

You are the first person I've spoken to to actually own a Pimax!

If I picked Launch in VR (Oculus) from steam the games would usually be fine.

I am using the DCS World stand alone client so it wasn't tied to steam in that case and it's supposed to support Oculus natlively as I've been using it since DK2.

 

The Pimax isn't bad (for the kickstarter price). The resolution still isn't quite enough to read all the gauges in the planes but the extra FOV makes it much easier to check behind you with peripheral vision without having to turn all the way around in your seat.

 

I'm hoping the 2160x2160 res of the HP Reverb or the Acer prototype are finally clear enough to do it but losing the FOV will be a major down side.

[ImAlsoRan]

On 6/22/2019 at 9:53 PM, Jon Jon said:

It's not, but it helps them keep their minimum spec that they've had.

 

Honestly, the biggest upgrade to me is the actual headset itself. It is definitely way more comfortable to wear. I bet putting on a VR cover facemask will make it even better.

 

Outside of that, I think it is great for anyone who already doesnt have a cv1, but I won't be ditching my 3 sensor room scale setup just yet. 

Hats off to me for living under a rock

[TheNaitsyrk]

15 hours ago, Jon Jon said:

I find that Oculus does a bad job of launching Steam bought games. It is great for its own eco system, that's for sure.

 

That's interesting that you had that experience with Oculus Home. I have honestly only had it not detect me putting it on a few times, but it is not the usual case.

 

You are the first person I've spoken to to actually own a Pimax!

I have Pimax 4K and Nolo VR also.

[Jon Jon]

On 6/25/2019 at 7:01 AM, TheNaitsyrk said:

I have Pimax 4K and Nolo VR also.

How are they?

[TheNaitsyrk]

5 hours ago, Jon Jon said:

How are they?

Very sharp. 60hz doesn't bother me at all really. Just needs a HDMI and USB 3 connection.

 

The only problem is that it needs to be set up every time otherwise there's tracking issues, but other than that it's really sharp image. 1920x2160 per eye.