Ryzen 3 1200 or 2200G or R5 1400 for office systems?

[DeadlyTitan]

So, am looking to purchase 5 ~ 7 new systems for my newly opening office, and am looking at Ryzen 3 1200, 2200G and ryzen 5 1400, anything other than them is strictly out of budget as they cost way too much than am willing to pay for 5 ~ 7 systems, especially 2400g and higher up cpu's.

 

Most of the time we'll be working with unity and visual studios, but i'd also like to have them have the ability to play some old games with lan play enabled in our free time (games like dungeon siege 2, Titan Quest, dirt, Age of empires,  borderlands, War of the Overlord, Rocket league, Space hulk death wing, paladins, Planetside 2) and similar games @ 720p (Note - not a complete list of games we'll play but some games in my head at the moment) 

 

In case of Ryzen 3 1200 and Ryzen 5 1400 i'll get GT 1030 GPU, but i prefer not to add additional expenses, bah what i am saying is i want to know if 2200G is good enough so that i dont need to buy Ryzen 5 1400 + GT 1030, saving some cash on 5 ~ 7 systems as i have other expenses which can use it. 

 

Where i live a

• Ryzen 5 2400G costs - $180 
• Ryzen 3 1200 costs - $75
• Ryzen 5 1400 costs - $134
• Ryzen 3 2200G costs - $112
• GT 1030 costs - $96

I'd also like to know if A320M boards are good enough for Ryzen 3 1200, Ryzen 5 1400 and 2200G or should i go for B450M for 2200G ? (yea i wont be overclocking any of them) 

 

Does ryzen 3 2200G benefits from having dual channel memory? since it uses an integrated GPU ?

 

last but not the least, I dunno how good quadcore cpu's are in this age and time, are they still good for light multiplayer gaming? i mean i will grudgingly go for 2400G if they are not viable but i really rather not, seeing how few the gains are compared to 2200G in games.

 

Note - non of these will be my main rig since i already got an overpowered personal work station. 

 

Thank you for the time. 

[DezGalbie]

I would say the 2200G is what you're looking for, for your purposes. It can handle light gaming without the extra expense of a graphics card.

I would suggest just a slight upgrade in terms of the motherboard though. I would say you would be best going for B350 or above just in case you ever want to upgrade your systems (or maybe just some of them) to something like 3rd gen Ryzen at some point down the line when the 2200G doesn't seem so capable any more.

I have a 2200G system that is mainly used as my media server, but is also capable of standing in as a light gaming station in the kinds of titles you mention (Like Borderlands, Borderlands 2). I've never tried it with single channel memory so I don't have a comparison, but I believe it should benefit from double channel memory.

[RobFRaschke]

As an aside, the Ryzen APUs LOVE to overclock. My 2400G would do 3.75ghz CPU and 1500mhz GPU all day, which actually handled anything within reason.

[DrMacintosh]

I'd go with the G series since they have VEGA Graphics. Will save you money vs having to buy a dGPU just to get video out and the GPUs should be able to accelerate those workloads just fine. The APUs also have great drivers now. 

[Firewrath9]

I’d actually go with a GT 1030, as it allows for up to 4 monitors, and most mobos only have 1 hdmi and sometimes 1 DP, which isn’t enough for what I use at work which is a 3 monitor setup.

 

[DezGalbie]

18 minutes ago, Firewrath9 said:

I’d actually go with a GT 1030, as it allows for up to 4 monitors, and most mobos only have 1 hdmi and sometimes 1 DP, which isn’t enough for what I use at work which is a 3 monitor setup.

 

I feel like it's pretty niche to absolutely need more than 2 monitors but, sure, if you do need 3 or more monitors for each system then that is something to consider. If that is the case and you don't have a motherboard option with enough display ports then you may need a graphics card of some sort anyway.

[mariushm]

No, just no.

 

2200g makes sense ONLY if you're not gonna add another graphics card. The graphics performance of 2200g is probably around 80-90% of a GT 1030 - it's just ridiculous to spend 100$ more on a GT 1030.

 

With cpus with integrated graphics, Yes, it absolutely makes sense to go with dual channel (2 sticks of ram) because graphics bandwidth is critical - in some games you'll get 2-3x the fps amount just by using dual channel.

Even with regular CPUs that have no integrated graphics, it does make a significant difference to have dual channel (2 sticks of ram)

 

A320 based motherboards will limit you to maximum 2666 Mhz on memory and won't allow overclocking. Ryzen loves high frequency RAM. While the 1st gen Ryzens aren't super great, they can still get to 3000Mhz and if you're lucky you will get 3200 Mhz on the memory sticks.

2200g I think tops at 2933 Mhz, so you can safely buy 3000 Mhz memory sticks.

 

My recommendation would be to get a Ryzen 1200 for 75$ and get a RX 570 for around 120-150$. RX 570 cards will allow you 3 or 4 monitors and they actually have the processing power to make sense to use 3+ monitors with them.

Also, get a B350 / B450 motherboard  ... 

 

I don't know where you are... but if you're planning to buy for 5-7 systems, you could easily hit Amazon and you'll probably get free shipping.

 

Powercolor RX 570 4GB is 130$ on Amazon : https://www.amazon.com/PowerColor-570-AXRX-4GBD5-3DHD-OC/dp/B06ZYRRW9T/

 

This + 1200 is waaay better than 1200+GT1030 or 2200g+GT1030 ... like 3-4x better.

 

 

Also if you're in US, maybe you're close enough to a Microcenter location - they have deals where you get 20-30$ if you buy motherboard + cpu at the same time, and they have Ryzen 1600 for 80$ : https://www.microcenter.com/category/4294966995,4294819840/amd-processors

Grab it with a b450 board and you could also get the video card... same price of 130$:  https://www.microcenter.com/product/478703/red-dragon-axrx-radeon-rx-570-dual-fan-4gb-gddr5-pcie-video-card

 

They say 1 per household, but maybe you can grab 3-4 friends/coworkers in a car and have a trip and each of you can get a bundle.

[Firewrath9]

14 hours ago, mariushm said:

No, just no.

 

2200g makes sense ONLY if you're not gonna add another graphics card. The graphics performance of 2200g is probably around 80-90% of a GT 1030 - it's just ridiculous to spend 100$ more on a GT 1030.

 

With cpus with integrated graphics, Yes, it absolutely makes sense to go with dual channel (2 sticks of ram) because graphics bandwidth is critical - in some games you'll get 2-3x the fps amount just by using dual channel.

Even with regular CPUs that have no integrated graphics, it does make a significant difference to have dual channel (2 sticks of ram)

 

A320 based motherboards will limit you to maximum 2666 Mhz on memory and won't allow overclocking. Ryzen loves high frequency RAM. While the 1st gen Ryzens aren't super great, they can still get to 3000Mhz and if you're lucky you will get 3200 Mhz on the memory sticks.

2200g I think tops at 2933 Mhz, so you can safely buy 3000 Mhz memory sticks.

 

My recommendation would be to get a Ryzen 1200 for 75$ and get a RX 570 for around 120-150$. RX 570 cards will allow you 3 or 4 monitors and they actually have the processing power to make sense to use 3+ monitors with them.

Also, get a B350 / B450 motherboard  ... 

 

I don't know where you are... but if you're planning to buy for 5-7 systems, you could easily hit Amazon and you'll probably get free shipping.

 

Powercolor RX 570 4GB is 130$ on Amazon : https://www.amazon.com/PowerColor-570-AXRX-4GBD5-3DHD-OC/dp/B06ZYRRW9T/

 

This + 1200 is waaay better than 1200+GT1030 or 2200g+GT1030 ... like 3-4x better.

 

 

Also if you're in US, maybe you're close enough to a Microcenter location - they have deals where you get 20-30$ if you buy motherboard + cpu at the same time, and they have Ryzen 1600 for 80$ : https://www.microcenter.com/category/4294966995,4294819840/amd-processors

Grab it with a b450 board and you could also get the video card... same price of 130$:  https://www.microcenter.com/product/478703/red-dragon-axrx-radeon-rx-570-dual-fan-4gb-gddr5-pcie-video-card

 

They say 1 per household, but maybe you can grab 3-4 friends/coworkers in a car and have a trip and each of you can get a bundle.

first of all, these are work PCs, not ultra gamers. RX 570 is overkill and isn't really too efficent. They don't need 1080p max settings on newest AAA games, 1080p mid-low settings on 2015-2017 games will be fine.
2400G is around 80-90% of 1030 in actual in game performance. Don't bring up OC, as you can always OC the GPU too.

oh yeah and multi-monitor. What if they use a 3 or even a 4 monitor setup like how me and most of my co-workers do?

[mariushm]

You say 2400g is $180. 1200 is 75$. So 1200+rx570 is ~$210 - why wouldn't you spend 30$ more for maybe 3x the graphics power?

Depending on motherboard you may get only 2 outputs (hdmi+vga or hdmi+displayport). RX570 cards have 2-3 displayport+hdmi+ dvi(optional)

2400g is already 3.6ghz/3.9ghz turbo... can't really get these above 4 gh'

1200 has lower clocks but you can probably do 3.8 ghz on all cores. Benefit is if you want to upgrade from 2400g later, you'd also have to get graphics card. with 1200, you can keep using the rx570.

yeah, rx570 uses more power, up to 150w in heavy games. In Windows, browsing net, Youtube, even light  games, card won't  go over 15-20w etc consumption varies with load.

alternatively, you can find rx 460 cards for ~ 60$ - better than gt1030

Microcenter has Ryzen 1600 for $80, Amazon has 2200g for $87...

[DeadlyTitan]

Thank you all, i've decided to wait for the Ryzen 3000 APU's since the launch is so close, but till then i've decided on Ryzen 3 2200G. 

[mariushm]

From what I heard, 3xxx series with graphics will be just renamed previous gen chip, with minimal improvements (solder instead of thermal paste, shipped with beefier stock cooler, a few % freq. rise)

 

They're making 3rd gen with chiplets (7nm chip with cores + 14nm io chiplet), apu has old cores+graphics+io on one chip

[Princess Luna]

Our newest office computers are all R5 2400G based systems and they work like a charm, it gets my vote but the 2200G also is fine if you really have to save up.

 

SMT does help when you have a bunch of Adobe PDF stuff open alongside a bunch of Microsoft Office stuff and internet browsing.

 

In no way buying the GT 1030 makes sense, eliminating the non -G ryzen variants.

[Crash Dummy]

For the budget and intended purpose I'm going to go with R3 2200G on a A320 board. Forget buying a dedicated graphics card. That's just blowing money for nothing unless you need support for extra monitors.

 

The R3 2200G will do great for your work load and is fine for light gaming. Most over estimate the CPU needed for a work PC.Don't sweat it. The real gains are had with saving on buying a low end dedicated GPU and if you have any budget remaining, buy a bigger or better SSD.

[mariushm]

A320 boards won't support Ryzen 3xxx series. Some have limited Ryzen 2xxx support.

Kind of silly to lose future upgrade paths by not spending 5-10$ more on a b450 based board.

[uncfan07]

2200g for office work, honestly thr 200ge would work as well if just normal office stuff