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2019 GTX 970 Upgrade Path

craydawg

I've had my 970 since late 2014 So I'm ready to upgrade here in the next month or so but I am not sure what to go for next. Looking to spend no more than $450 absolute max but would like to stay closer to $400.

 

I mostly use my rig for editing photos and video and some graphic design and some gaming on the side (RL, Rust, BF4, CSGO, etc.)

 

I run the Adobe Suite so Premiere, Photoshop, After Effects, etc. and edit 4k footage on a 4k monitor. I know premiere is optimized for CUDA over opencl but I never saw much improvement with my GTX970 vs my old RX280 so I'm open to both team red and team green at this point. I do typically stack quite a few gpu accelerated effects, color, key framing Gaussian blur, keying, sharpen, warp stabilizer So I don't know why switching to a card with CUDA didn't make much difference. (yes I had everything enabled) I currently shoot my footage on the GH5, though I do get some projects from Sony, RED, and Blackmagic cameras.

 

Please no fanboying, just looking for objective answers on what is going to serve me best for the next 3-4years for my price range.

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In creative workloads, the Vega 64 seems to outperform team green on a couple of fronts. You won't get as good of a gaming experience as say a GTX 1080. But you can find some Vega 64s new on Newegg for $400 (Gigabyte models I believe). Making it currently a better value than say an RTX 2060/70

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29 minutes ago, craydawg said:

next month or so but I am not sure what to go for next.

I dont know either, no 3rd party reviews for Navi cards coming next month yet or solid details in Nvidia's Turing refresh cards.

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52 minutes ago, craydawg said:

I've had my 970 since late 2014 So I'm ready to upgrade here in the next month or so but I am not sure what to go for next. Looking to spend no more than $450 absolute max but would like to stay closer to $400.

 

I mostly use my rig for editing photos and video and some graphic design and some gaming on the side (RL, Rust, BF4, CSGO, etc.)

 

I run the Adobe Suite so Premiere, Photoshop, After Effects, etc. and edit 4k footage on a 4k monitor. I know premiere is optimized for CUDA over opencl but I never saw much improvement with my GTX970 vs my old RX280 so I'm open to both team red and team green at this point. I do typically stack quite a few gpu accelerated effects, color, key framing Gaussian blur, keying, sharpen, warp stabilizer So I don't know why switching to a card with CUDA didn't make much difference. (yes I had everything enabled) I currently shoot my footage on the GH5, though I do get some projects from Sony, RED, and Blackmagic cameras.

 

Please no fanboying, just looking for objective answers on what is going to serve me best for the next 3-4years for my price range.

Grab a used 1070 or a brand new RTX 2070 and you should be set.

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51 minutes ago, craydawg said:

I've had my 970 since late 2014 So I'm ready to upgrade here in the next month or so but I am not sure what to go for next. Looking to spend no more than $450 absolute max but would like to stay closer to $400.

I was a 970 owner, in late 2018 I picked up a used 1080ti for $550 so if you can find one of those now than RTX is out, I'd recommend it! Otherwise the 1080/2070 or Vega64 is gonna be your best bet (assuming you dont want to wait fro Navi)

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1 hour ago, craydawg said:

I've had my 970 since late 2014 So I'm ready to upgrade here in the next month or so but I am not sure what to go for next. Looking to spend no more than $450 absolute max but would like to stay closer to $400.

 

I mostly use my rig for editing photos and video and some graphic design and some gaming on the side (RL, Rust, BF4, CSGO, etc.)

 

I run the Adobe Suite so Premiere, Photoshop, After Effects, etc. and edit 4k footage on a 4k monitor. I know premiere is optimized for CUDA over opencl but I never saw much improvement with my GTX970 vs my old RX280 so I'm open to both team red and team green at this point. I do typically stack quite a few gpu accelerated effects, color, key framing Gaussian blur, keying, sharpen, warp stabilizer So I don't know why switching to a card with CUDA didn't make much difference. (yes I had everything enabled) I currently shoot my footage on the GH5, though I do get some projects from Sony, RED, and Blackmagic cameras.

 

Please no fanboying, just looking for objective answers on what is going to serve me best for the next 3-4years for my price range.

RTX 2070 would be the way to go in that price range.

 

Adobe prefers NVIDIA, and the extra 2GB of VRAM over the RTX 2060 will benefit you.

 

Please refer to Puget Systems' benchmarks on this:

 

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Premiere-Pro-CC-2019-AMD-Radeon-VII-vs-NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-1395/

 

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/After-Effects-CC-2018-NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-2080-2080-Ti-Performance-1237/

 

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/After-Effects-CC-2019-AMD-Radeon-VII-16GB-Performance-1381/

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6 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

I dont know either, no 3rd party reviews for Navi cards coming next month yet or solid details in Nvidia's Turing refresh cards.

It will be interesting since the new Navi cards fall in my budget. Would be nice to catch something early in its life cycle but like we all know premiere and adobe love CUDA. 

 

At the same time I don't want to pay the Nvidia tax for a refresh.

 

I dunno. 2070 may be it.

 

 

I just dunno. Life is hard man.

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47 minutes ago, craydawg said:

It will be interesting since the new Navi cards fall in my budget. Would be nice to catch something early in its life cycle but like we all know premiere and adobe love CUDA. 

 

At the same time I don't want to pay the Nvidia tax for a refresh.

 

I dunno. 2070 may be it.

 

 

I just dunno. Life is hard man.

some rumours suggest Nvidia's tactic is to use the refresh models to fill in the current prices so current cards can get cheaper

 

but yeah, if you go Navi, time to learn Vegas Pro or Davinci Resolve

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