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GPU pricing- what gives?

MadMudkip
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I just migrated my 1050 into my half-new build. I'm completely satisfied at the moment, but caught myself browsing graphics cards. Looking at the modest 1060, 6GB on Newegg, I noticed a huge price range. Just from ASUS, they offer 4 different cards. The Expedition for $200, the Phoenix for $300, the Turbo for $350 and the ROG edition for $450. I'm curious as to how diminishing the returns are on all these cards. Does a 1060 ROG run comparably to a 1070? Is the Expedition just a 1050 with with 4gb VRAM extra? Why is the price range so vast? 

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Because ASUS loves milking the ROG brand, at $450 you're better off just buying the RTX2060

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Why are you looking for brand new GTX 1060 / GTX 1070? Are you aware those are previous generation (end of life) now?

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It just means you're looking at the wrong products. For about $250 you should be aiming at the GTX 1660 (confusing name I know), which is about 1070 level in DX12 and Vulkan games and a bit behind in DX11. For $400 your best bet will be the RTX 2060, which performs like a 1070ti and nearly 1080 level.

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I ask because if you are considering a card over say 2-300 bucks unless you are putting it in a fairly powerful system you are going to be severely bottlenecking it with a lower powered CPU and such... If you tell us what you have better recommendations can be made to you

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Used RX 580 is what you need instead, or at least a new one instead of a 1060.

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30 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

Why are you looking for brand new GTX 1060 / GTX 1070? Are you aware those are previous generation (end of life) now?

 

14 minutes ago, Djinnux said:

I ask because if you are considering a card over say 2-300 bucks unless you are putting it in a fairly powerful system you are going to be severely bottlenecking it with a lower powered CPU and such... If you tell us what you have better recommendations can be made to you

Honestly, I'm not looking to buy anything for at least 6 months. Most games I play are CPU based, think Paradox strategy like EU4.  I've got a Ryzen 5 2600 so I'm looking at mid range cards. But really, I'm more just curious as to why they are so far apart in price for the "same" card. It sounds like its a combo of being "end of life/no longer produced" and "brand markup". But even 2060 has a $220 difference. On the surface many of them appear to have the same specs. 

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I do understand some cards can be overclocked, some cards are larger/smaller and better cooling. But in a mid-range card is $200 more for the top of the line really worth it? I would imagine at some point there would be diminishing returns. Thanks for the thoughts everyone!

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7 hours ago, Djinnux said:

I sold it but I just built a PC with a 2600 in it and I used the Sapphire RX 590 and it performed quite well

 

The Sapphire Nitro+ SE RX590 is actually a pretty good deal now if you want something a bit more  powerful than the 580 but don't want the Vega 56

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I got my strix rtx2060 for $400, that Newegg pricing is crazy 

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The RTX cards are heavily flawed and had an awful launch, so people're goin back to the mastered cards of the 1000 series.  Since they're no longer bein produced and demand has skyrocketed for them, prices have followed.  The new RTX line has been announced, which'll make the current cards go down about $100 to keep up w/the new AMD release.  It's supposed to up the clock speeds some, along w/more VRAM; but we'll see what happens at actual launch, like the initial RTX.

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12 hours ago, MadMudkip said:

I do understand some cards can be overclocked, some cards are larger/smaller and better cooling. But in a mid-range card is $200 more for the top of the line really worth it? I would imagine at some point there would be diminishing returns. Thanks for the thoughts everyone!

I don't think you'll find price differences like that (in the US market) on any "mid-range" card still being manufactured. 

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