RX480 better than GTX1660Ti?!

[TheBlue217]

Don't get confused by the title, but yes, its true. At least, it is in my setup when playing rocket league. For some reason i got a almost solid 60fps with my old gpu, the RX480, but with my new GTX1660Ti I'm only getting an average fps between 40 and 60, with sometimes massive laggspikes/framedrops.

 

I'm using the same setup, same settings l, dame everything, but this still happens.

 

I'm aware of the fact that different games prefer different graphics cards, but I doubt this is the issue here.

 

As I'm typing this I'm suddenly aware i haven't tried any other game yet, will update on some different games later.

 

In the meantime, if you have any idea or question please tell me, as I'm not sure what is causing this.

 

Edit: after deinstalling the RX480 and deleting the AMD drivers (as suggested with ddu) i now get solid perfomance out of the gpu, thanks guys! 

Edited May 21, 2019 by TheBlue217

[Fasauceome]

Driver conflicts can cause bad performance, did you uninstall your old drivers with DDU?

[Jurrunio]

Check the GPU core frequency

[SenKa]

Sounds like drivers to me too

[TheBlue217]

I have uninstalled and later reinstalled them, as i have both gpu's in my pc RN, one for each display i have. ik this is overkill, and totally unnecessary, but according to my research this shouldn't be an issue and makes for better overall performance. 

[GrockleTD]

6 minutes ago, TheBlue217 said:

I have uninstalled and later reinstalled them, as i have both gpu's in my pc RN, one for each display i have. ik this is overkill, and totally unnecessary, but according to my research this shouldn't be an issue and makes for better overall performance. 

You are using both an RX 480 and a 1660Ti at the same time?!??

[TheBlue217]

3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Check the GPU core frequency

I have the MSI GTX 1660Ti Gaming X, which has 1,5GHz and turbo 1,875GHz.

[TheBlue217]

2 minutes ago, GrockleTD said:

You are using both an RX 480 and a 1660Ti at the same time?!??

Yes, as i said, it works, and in theory they shouldn't interfere with one another

 

[Quadriplegic]

9 minutes ago, TheBlue217 said:

I have uninstalled and later reinstalled them, as i have both gpu's in my pc RN, one for each display i have. ik this is overkill, and totally unnecessary, but according to my research this shouldn't be an issue and makes for better overall performance. 

Did you uninstall the drivers using DDU? If not, chances are that there are some files remaining that are screwing with your current drivers.

If you play on one monitor, single GPU will drive both of them easily. 

Take out one graphics card, delete drivers with DDU, install fresh drivers, test the game. Do the same with other card.

Products shouldn't take blame because of user error

[aisle9]

1 minute ago, TheBlue217 said:

Yes, as i said, it works, and in theory they shouldn't interfere with one another

 

Yes, they will. Running cards that need different driver sets at the same time will screw the performance of both. Why not just run two displays through the 1660 Ti?

[GrockleTD]

Just now, TheBlue217 said:

Yes, as i said, it works, and in theory they shouldn't interfere with one another

 

But I bet you they are. Uninstall the 480, ddu the drivers for both amd and Nvidia and then reinstall Nvidia drivers. Should perform leagues better

[TheBlue217]

Just now, Quadriplegic said:

Did you uninstall the drivers using DDU? If not, chances are that there are some files remaining that are screwing with your current drivers.

If you play on one monitor, single GPU will drive both of them easily. 

Take out one graphics card, delete drivers with DDU, install fresh drivers, test the game. Do the same with other card.

Products shouldn't take blame because of user error

Will try, thanks for suggestion.

[TheBlue217]

1 minute ago, aisle9 said:

Yes, they will. Running cards that need different driver sets at the same time will screw the performance of both. Why not just run two displays through the 1660 Ti?

As I said I did research and even posted 2 topics on this forum before doing this. Out of all came the conclusion that it shouldn't be a problem.

 

[GrockleTD]

Just now, TheBlue217 said:

As I said I did research and even posted 2 topics on this forum before doing this. Out of all came the conclusion that it shouldn't be a problem.

 

I feel like it was misunderstood to mean dual RX 480’s

[TheBlue217]

1 minute ago, GrockleTD said:

I feel like it was misunderstood to mean dual RX 480’s

It wasn't but still, guess they didn't think about these things

 

[aisle9]

2 minutes ago, TheBlue217 said:

As I said I did research and even posted 2 topics on this forum before doing this. Out of all came the conclusion that it shouldn't be a problem.

 

The conclusion was wrong. Running an AMD card and an NVIDIA card at the same time will absolutely cause driver conflicts that affect performance. Try wiping the drivers in DDU and removing the RX 480. You'll see light years of improvement on the GTX 1660 Ti. If the 1660 Ti's results remain stable at their previous rate, something else is going on.

[TheBlue217]

Just now, TheBlue217 said:

It wasn't but still, guess they didn't think about these things

 

Some did say the RX480 was better off as a spare, and absolutely not that the GPU's whould interfere with one another.

[TheBlue217]

I will try the things suggested by you guys, thanks for the quick responses and for thinking along for a solution. Will update the main topic with the results

[schwellmo92]

3 minutes ago, TheBlue217 said:

Some did say the RX480 was better off as a spare, and absolutely not that the GPU's whould interfere with one another.

I'm curious as to why you feel you need both?

[TheBlue217]

15 minutes ago, schwellmo92 said:

I'm curious as to why you feel you need both?

It was not a 'i need to', it was more a 'if it works and has no downsides, i want to'. That and the fact that my experience with the RX480 alone was that it sometimes struggled to run both displays when gaming one the 1st and watching a yt video / twitch livestream on the 2th. (I know it was the gpu, as my internet, cpu, etc. were fine)

 

So yeah. If you have the potential for more power, and it seems as it won't be a problem, whouldn't you do the same? 

[TheBlue217]

Tried and succeeded! again a huge thanks to all that helped. The next problem is there, will post that in a new topic, this time with one of my displays. 

(btw, how can I close this topic or mark it as solved? Still a bit new to this site ) 

[schwellmo92]

34 minutes ago, TheBlue217 said:

It was not a 'i need to', it was more a 'if it works and has no downsides, i want to'. That and the fact that my experience with the RX480 alone was that it sometimes struggled to run both displays when gaming one the 1st and watching a yt video / twitch livestream on the 2th. (I know it was the gpu, as my internet, cpu, etc. were fine)

 

So yeah. If you have the potential for more power, and it seems as it won't be a problem, whouldn't you do the same? 

Why not run the second display on your iGPU if you are maxing out your card causing the second screen to stutter?

[TheBlue217]

6 minutes ago, schwellmo92 said:

Why not run the second display on your iGPU if you are maxing out your card causing the second screen to stutter?

never thought of it

[TheBlue217]

17 minutes ago, schwellmo92 said:

Why not run the second display on your iGPU if you are maxing out your card causing the second screen to stutter?

I also remember that the hdmi output of my motherboard didn't work after I had installed the gpu (rx480). never tried to plug anything in that port since.

[Jurrunio]

8 hours ago, TheBlue217 said:

I have the MSI GTX 1660Ti Gaming X, which has 1,5GHz and turbo 1,875GHz.

not the specs, but the actual speed it's running at. There's a bug for Turing where cards get stuck at 1350MHz or base clock under full load.

 

And also using Nvidia and AMD cards together require careful steps with drivers.