Jump to content

Problem with old AM2+ Build

TheSebamed
 Share
Posted

Hello!

My friend bought himself a new CPU. After installing the new CPU, the following happened.

His PC could not boot up with more than 1 RAM sticks.

CPU: Amd phenom II 940 black edition
MOBO: Ga ma770-ud3 rev1.0 (Bios F8)

He tried this with many types of RAM, it only worked with one stick, once he puts 2, PC wont boot.

His old CPU: Amd phenom x4 9550

The new CPU is supported with that mobo. He tried CMOS reset and that didn't help.
Once he puts the old CPU back, then he can use all RAM slots once again.
Any idea what is causing this problem? He tried to look for possible solutions but failed.
 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted
3 minutes ago, TheSebamed said:

Hello!

My friend bought himself a new CPU. After installing the new CPU, the following happened.

His PC could not boot up with more than 1 RAM sticks.

CPU: Amd phenom II 940 black edition
MOBO: Ga ma770-ud3 rev1.0 (Bios F8)

He tried this with many types of RAM, it only worked with one stick, once he puts 2, PC wont boot.

His old CPU: Amd phenom x4 9550

The new CPU is supported with that mobo. He tried CMOS reset and that didn't help.
Once he puts the old CPU back, then he can use all RAM slots once again.
Any idea what is causing this problem? He tried to look for possible solutions but failed.
 

Possible dead memory controller on the new CPU. Is it used?

Main PC:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X | RAM:Corsair LPX 3200 mhz (16Gb) 

Mobo:ASUS Strix B550-F Wifi | GPU: MSI RTX 2070 Gaming Z

Case: Sharkoon Nightshark RGB| Storage: 500 GB 970 EVO Plus 1 TB WD blue 500 GB Samsung HDD

Monitor: iiyama G-Master G2470HSU-B1 165Hz

Powersupply: Be Quiet straight Power 10 500 watt

 

 

Main Laptop

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 4800H | RAM: Team group 16 GB 2666 mhz

GPU: RTX 2060 (MXM swappable)

Monitor: 1080p 120Hz

Storage: 2x 1 TB Samsung 970 EVO NVMe (no raid)

 

 

Second Laptop

CPU: Intel Core I5 1235u,  RAM: Samsung 8 GB 3200 mhz

GPU: IrisXe 80 eu

Storage: 512 GB WD Digital SN530 NVMe

 

Phone:

Xiaomi MI 11

 

Work Phone:

Galaxy A50

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted
  • Author
5 minutes ago, Wolly9102 said:

Possible dead memory controller on the new CPU. Is it used?

Yes, it is used CPU.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted
13 minutes ago, TheSebamed said:

Yes, it is used CPU.

I think the memory controller is going bad. (Maybe the reason why it has been sold) dunno for sure tho. Maybe someone has an other idea

Main PC:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X | RAM:Corsair LPX 3200 mhz (16Gb) 

Mobo:ASUS Strix B550-F Wifi | GPU: MSI RTX 2070 Gaming Z

Case: Sharkoon Nightshark RGB| Storage: 500 GB 970 EVO Plus 1 TB WD blue 500 GB Samsung HDD

Monitor: iiyama G-Master G2470HSU-B1 165Hz

Powersupply: Be Quiet straight Power 10 500 watt

 

 

Main Laptop

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 4800H | RAM: Team group 16 GB 2666 mhz

GPU: RTX 2060 (MXM swappable)

Monitor: 1080p 120Hz

Storage: 2x 1 TB Samsung 970 EVO NVMe (no raid)

 

 

Second Laptop

CPU: Intel Core I5 1235u,  RAM: Samsung 8 GB 3200 mhz

GPU: IrisXe 80 eu

Storage: 512 GB WD Digital SN530 NVMe

 

Phone:

Xiaomi MI 11

 

Work Phone:

Galaxy A50

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted

Sounds like a dead memory controller, can you check the CPU for any bent pins and/or see if you can get a refund from it's previous owner or at least get some money back?

Gaming PC: i7 9700k | Noctua NH-D15 | 2x Asus STRIX GTX 980 DirectCU II SLI | Asus Prime Z370-A | 16 GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000 Mhz | Corsair RM850X | Asus Rog Swift 165 Hz | LG 27UD58 4K | Phanteks Enthoo Primoo

 

Workstation PC: i7 9900k | NZXT Kraken x62 | ASRock Z390M-ITX/ac | 32 GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-3200 | PNY Quadro RTX 5000 | Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB | Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX | Seaonic Prime Ultra Titanium 650 W | 4 TB Seagate Barracuda Pro

 

Server 1: (Web server ) 2x Intel Xeon X5650 6c 12t (Total 12c/24t) | Supermicro X8DT6 | 128 GB DDR3 ECC | AMD Radeon R7 250 | SuperMicro PWS-1K21P-1R  Redundant 1200W PSU | 1 TB 840 Evo | 4 TB Seagate Barracuda Pro | Fedora Server

Server 2: (Home File Server): i5 2500k | P8P67 Pro | 16 GB DDR3 2133|  Corsair TX750 ATX SLI | XFX Radeon HD 6950 | 2x 4 TB Toshiba X300 | 2x 1 TB Seagate Barracuda | 256 GB 860 EVO | Unraid  

 

Emulation System 1: Raspberry Pi 3 B, RetroArch on Raspbian with 8Bitdo Wireless controller

Emulation System 2: AMD Phenom II x6 1100T Black Edition | ASUS Crosshair III Formula | 8 GB DDR3 1600 | 1 TB Seagate Barracuda 1 TB | 128 GB Toshiba OCZ SSD | Windows 7 Ultimate x64,  Xbox 360 Controller

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted

Have you tried using the old CPU in the socket and see if that fixes the problem, if it doesn't might be a problem with the motherboard if it does, CPU is probably the problem. (edit - I will be honest I didn't read your trouble shooting steps (It's been a long day))

 

sounds like a CPU problem try get your money back but your motherboard can support that CPU on that bios update, but it does look like it's still outdated so update it and maybe that might help (doubt it but it's a good idea to keep the bios up to date anyways so can't hurt)

The owner of "too many" computers, called

The Lord of all Toasters (1920X 1080ti 32GB)

The Toasted Controller (i5 4670, R9 380, 24GB)

The Semi Portable Toastie machine (i7 3612QM (was an i3) intel HD 4000 16GB)'

Bread and Butter Pudding (i7 7700HQ, 1050ti, 16GB)

Pinoutbutter Sandwhich (raspberry pi 3 B)

The Portable Slice of Bread (N270, HAHAHA, 2GB)

Muffinator (C2D E6600, Geforce 8400, 6GB, 8X2TB HDD)

Toastbuster (WIP, should be cool)

loaf and let dough (A printer that doesn't print black ink)

The Cheese Toastie (C2D (of some sort), GTX 760, 3GB, win XP gaming machine)

The Toaster (C2D, intel HD, 4GB, 2X1TB NAS)

Matter of Loaf and death (some old shitty AMD laptop)

windybread (4X E5470, intel HD, 32GB ECC) (use coming soon, maybe)

And more, several more

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted
  • Author
28 minutes ago, grimreeper132 said:

Have you tried using the old CPU in the socket and see if that fixes the problem, if it doesn't might be a problem with the motherboard if it does, CPU is probably the problem. (edit - I will be honest I didn't read your trouble shooting steps (It's been a long day))

 

sounds like a CPU problem try get your money back but your motherboard can support that CPU on that bios update, but it does look like it's still outdated so update it and maybe that might help (doubt it but it's a good idea to keep the bios up to date anyways so can't hurt)

He did get the money back luckily. Also was able to keep the CPU.

 

 

29 minutes ago, lmaobadatmath said:

Sounds like a dead memory controller, can you check the CPU for any bent pins and/or see if you can get a refund from it's previous owner or at least get some money back?

Will tell him to do that. Will keep you updated once i get a reply from him.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted
2 hours ago, TheSebamed said:

My friend bought himself a new CPU. After installing the new CPU, the following happened.
His PC could not boot up with more than 1 RAM sticks.

CPU possibly damaged.

Look at the Pins on the back.

 

And is the latest BIOS on the Board?

"Hell is full of good meanings, but Heaven is full of good works"

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted
1 hour ago, TheSebamed said:

He did get the money back luckily. Also was able to keep the CPU.

 

 

Will tell him to do that. Will keep you updated once i get a reply from him.

Glad he got the money back. If any of the pins are bent then that might be causing that. 

Gaming PC: i7 9700k | Noctua NH-D15 | 2x Asus STRIX GTX 980 DirectCU II SLI | Asus Prime Z370-A | 16 GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000 Mhz | Corsair RM850X | Asus Rog Swift 165 Hz | LG 27UD58 4K | Phanteks Enthoo Primoo

 

Workstation PC: i7 9900k | NZXT Kraken x62 | ASRock Z390M-ITX/ac | 32 GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-3200 | PNY Quadro RTX 5000 | Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB | Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX | Seaonic Prime Ultra Titanium 650 W | 4 TB Seagate Barracuda Pro

 

Server 1: (Web server ) 2x Intel Xeon X5650 6c 12t (Total 12c/24t) | Supermicro X8DT6 | 128 GB DDR3 ECC | AMD Radeon R7 250 | SuperMicro PWS-1K21P-1R  Redundant 1200W PSU | 1 TB 840 Evo | 4 TB Seagate Barracuda Pro | Fedora Server

Server 2: (Home File Server): i5 2500k | P8P67 Pro | 16 GB DDR3 2133|  Corsair TX750 ATX SLI | XFX Radeon HD 6950 | 2x 4 TB Toshiba X300 | 2x 1 TB Seagate Barracuda | 256 GB 860 EVO | Unraid  

 

Emulation System 1: Raspberry Pi 3 B, RetroArch on Raspbian with 8Bitdo Wireless controller

Emulation System 2: AMD Phenom II x6 1100T Black Edition | ASUS Crosshair III Formula | 8 GB DDR3 1600 | 1 TB Seagate Barracuda 1 TB | 128 GB Toshiba OCZ SSD | Windows 7 Ultimate x64,  Xbox 360 Controller

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted
5 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

CPU possibly damaged.

Look at the Pins on the back.

 

And is the latest BIOS on the Board?

It won't be a BIOS issue since the problem only occurs when he uses two RAM sticks

Gaming PC: i7 9700k | Noctua NH-D15 | 2x Asus STRIX GTX 980 DirectCU II SLI | Asus Prime Z370-A | 16 GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000 Mhz | Corsair RM850X | Asus Rog Swift 165 Hz | LG 27UD58 4K | Phanteks Enthoo Primoo

 

Workstation PC: i7 9900k | NZXT Kraken x62 | ASRock Z390M-ITX/ac | 32 GB Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-3200 | PNY Quadro RTX 5000 | Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB | Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX | Seaonic Prime Ultra Titanium 650 W | 4 TB Seagate Barracuda Pro

 

Server 1: (Web server ) 2x Intel Xeon X5650 6c 12t (Total 12c/24t) | Supermicro X8DT6 | 128 GB DDR3 ECC | AMD Radeon R7 250 | SuperMicro PWS-1K21P-1R  Redundant 1200W PSU | 1 TB 840 Evo | 4 TB Seagate Barracuda Pro | Fedora Server

Server 2: (Home File Server): i5 2500k | P8P67 Pro | 16 GB DDR3 2133|  Corsair TX750 ATX SLI | XFX Radeon HD 6950 | 2x 4 TB Toshiba X300 | 2x 1 TB Seagate Barracuda | 256 GB 860 EVO | Unraid  

 

Emulation System 1: Raspberry Pi 3 B, RetroArch on Raspbian with 8Bitdo Wireless controller

Emulation System 2: AMD Phenom II x6 1100T Black Edition | ASUS Crosshair III Formula | 8 GB DDR3 1600 | 1 TB Seagate Barracuda 1 TB | 128 GB Toshiba OCZ SSD | Windows 7 Ultimate x64,  Xbox 360 Controller

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted
1 hour ago, TheSebamed said:

He did get the money back luckily. Also was able to keep the CPU.

Spoiler

9780816146796-us.jpg

noice

 

Are the memory sticks identical or at least have the same speed/latency? some mobos of that era refuse to work with different speed sticks.

ASUS X470-PRO • R7 1700 4GHz • Corsair H110i GT P/P • 2x MSI RX 480 8G • Corsair DP 2x8 @3466 • EVGA 750 G2 • Corsair 730T • Crucial MX500 250GB • WD 4TB

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted
27 minutes ago, lmaobadatmath said:

It won't be a BIOS issue since the problem only occurs when he uses two RAM sticks

Probably not, but its worth a shot.

"Hell is full of good meanings, but Heaven is full of good works"

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted
  • Author
20 hours ago, aezakmi said:
  Reveal hidden contents

9780816146796-us.jpg

noice

 

Are the memory sticks identical or at least have the same speed/latency? some mobos of that era refuse to work with different speed sticks.

Yes, identical memory sticks of 4.

 

 

21 hours ago, lmaobadatmath said:

Glad he got the money back. If any of the pins are bent then that might be causing that. 

Pins were fine.

he did get to test the CPU on a different motherboard and yep. the CPU is damaged. it couldn't even boot with the different am2+ mobo.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted
5 hours ago, TheSebamed said:

Yes, identical memory sticks of 4.

 

 

Pins were fine.

he did get to test the CPU on a different motherboard and yep. the CPU is damaged. it couldn't even boot with the different am2+ mobo.

F

ASUS X470-PRO • R7 1700 4GHz • Corsair H110i GT P/P • 2x MSI RX 480 8G • Corsair DP 2x8 @3466 • EVGA 750 G2 • Corsair 730T • Crucial MX500 250GB • WD 4TB

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share
Go to topic listing CPUs, Motherboards, and Memory

×